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Samsung starts production of SoC chips using second generation 10nm process

by Alan Friedman / Nov 29, 2017, 6:01 PM

Samsung's new S3 production line located in Hwaseong, Korea

Samsung has announced today that it has started churning out chipsets made using the company's second generation 10nm process. Samsung hasn't made any specific announcement, but there is a good chance that this second generation process will be employed in the production of the Snapdragon 845 chipset and the next version of the Exynos SoC. Both of these chips are expected to drive specific versions of the Samsung Galaxy S9, Samsung Galaxy S9+ and the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 in 2018

The new generation manufacturing technique uses 10LPP (Low Power Plus) which raises the performance of these components by 10% over last year's Snapdragon 835 chipsets, which were produced using the first generation 10nm process. The second generation chips use 15% less energy which will be a big help when it comes to stretching out battery life on the 2018 Samsung flagship models.

This year, Samsung got first dibs on the Snapdragon 835 SoC for the Samsung Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+. As a result, the LG G6 was forced to use the previous generation Snapdragon 821 under the hood. Reportedly, LG has a deal worked out with Qualcomm to make sure that this doesn't happen again with the LG G7 next year.

"We will be able to better serve our customers through the migration from 10LPE to 10LPP with improved performance and higher initial yield. Samsung with its long-living 10nm process strategy will continue to work on the evolution of 10nm technology down to 8LPP to offer customers distinct competitive advantages for a wide range of applications."-Ryan Lee, vice president of Foundry Marketing, Samsung Electronics

Samsung has started production of process technologies at 10nm and below at its new S3 production facilities located in Hwaseong, Korea. This is where Samsung will mass produce its chips using the 7nm process with EUV (Extreme Ultra Violet).

source: Samsung

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21 Comments

1. tangbunna

Posts: 491; Member since: Sep 29, 2016

good look on paper.. but reality is just laggy phone

posted on Nov 29, 2017, 6:07 PM 7

4. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

True.

posted on Nov 29, 2017, 7:42 PM 4

8. GalaxyLeads_iCrapFollows

Posts: 216; Member since: Nov 29, 2017

Samsung phones are faster than your craapple phones in the real world. Samsung Exynos chips havent even showed its true potential being held back by Qualcomm

posted on Nov 29, 2017, 9:35 PM 3

9. kiko007

Posts: 7520; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

That's one hell of a username you got there.

posted on Nov 29, 2017, 9:37 PM 8

11. Phullofphil

Posts: 1829; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

You sound like a complete sore loser almost admitting defeat. I am not even saying who is better but you are by your words. Like a villain in a cartoon that just got defeated .If those chips can be better how come in Korea they are the same.

posted on Nov 30, 2017, 1:30 AM 0

16. tedkord

Posts: 17463; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Actually, that describes the OP.

posted on Nov 30, 2017, 8:56 AM 0

21. GalaxyLeads_iCrapFollows

Posts: 216; Member since: Nov 29, 2017

Exynos' performance is held back by Qualcomm because Samsung needs to maintain performance parity between the Exynos powered Galaxy phones and the Snapdragon powered phones elsewhere. If it weren't for Qualcomm's mediocre designs, Samsung Exynos chips would be much faster. But Samsung has no concern for speed because even now, Galaxy phones are much faster than iphones in real world usage.

posted on Nov 30, 2017, 12:43 PM 0

7. L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1584; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

Fail attempt at trolling. Samsungs manufacturing process doesn't produce laggy phones or even your mighty Apple would have laggy phones.

posted on Nov 29, 2017, 8:00 PM 11

10. Zylam

Posts: 1822; Member since: Oct 20, 2010

Not really, the SoC is part of the specs sheet, he was just alluring to the fact that on paper Samsung phones look good but in real world usage they lag, no matter what the Internal upgrades are. Samsung phones do lag in real life, it's a fact, they are loaded with way too much unnecessary stuff and not built for long time endurance. IOS sucks too, stock Android is the best, well if Google can stop stuffing up the hardware.

posted on Nov 30, 2017, 12:08 AM 1

13. HansP

Posts: 542; Member since: Oct 16, 2011

In real life, you've never even used a Samsung phone. That's the only fact in this thread.

posted on Nov 30, 2017, 4:28 AM 0

15. Trex95

Posts: 2383; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Unfortunately note 8 faster than pixel 2 xl plus google start to copy some features from Samsung touchwiz. I don’t like Samsung touchwiz, but Samsung optimized very well this time with note 8 of course more 2gigs of ram makes different, but overall it’s better than stock Android including security patch that Samsung fixed some staff with it. IOS doesn’t suck I think Apple needs to add more ram with the next iPhone 11 2018 at least 4 gig of ram.

posted on Nov 30, 2017, 6:40 AM 0

17. tedkord

Posts: 17463; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

In real life, those "laggy" phones best the iPhone X several times in real world speed tests. Lag can't be too bad.

posted on Nov 30, 2017, 8:57 AM 0

19. M.O.A.B

Posts: 322; Member since: Feb 13, 2015

you are so 2012 man, things have changed a lot since then.

posted on Nov 30, 2017, 11:48 AM 0

2. CreeDiddy

Posts: 2275; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

I can’t see these cracking 3000 single core and 8000 multicore... A11X should equal 5000 single core / 17,000 multicore A12 should equal 5300 single core / 20,000 multicore What this says is welcome MacBook and MacBook Air to the A-series processors...

posted on Nov 29, 2017, 7:01 PM 1

3. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1472; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

They don't have to for a good user experience. Apple managed to prove this year that even a much more powerful SoC, doesn't guarantee great performance. Apple is doing what it once accused Android OEM's of doing, just focusing on high spec'ed hardware and gimmicky features. Not quite doing anything right. You know you're going in the wrong direction when Samsung makes better phones than your own company does.

posted on Nov 29, 2017, 7:39 PM 7

14. HansP

Posts: 542; Member since: Oct 16, 2011

Apple is notch what the company used to be.

posted on Nov 30, 2017, 4:30 AM 1

5. ColinW

Posts: 413; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

If only the benchmark scores were reflected in everyday use, where we see the iPhones struggling under IOS 11 to keep up with its peers. Only fools believe high benchmark scores equals top performance to the average user.

posted on Nov 29, 2017, 7:55 PM 6

12. Phullofphil

Posts: 1829; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

In personal use expierence my iPhone is faster than my friends note 8. But that’s also android vs iOS kinda and not Samsung.

posted on Nov 30, 2017, 1:38 AM 1

18. tedkord

Posts: 17463; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

In actual, filmed so we can all see it use, the Note 8 was faster than the iPhone X in several different YouTube posted speed tests. And the was without even setting animations to double speed.

posted on Nov 30, 2017, 8:59 AM 0

6. L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1584; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

Mac isn't compatible with ARM.

posted on Nov 29, 2017, 7:58 PM 0

20. M.O.A.B

Posts: 322; Member since: Feb 13, 2015

i just hope they catch up with apple processors, watching A11 numbers makes me feel jealous. I know benchmarks aren't everything, but a powerful SoC is always preferred, plus the user is paying premium anyways.