Report: Oracle attorney says that Google has made $22 billion in profits from Android

Report: Oracle attorney says that Google has made $22 billion in profits from Android
An Oracle attorney revealed in a courtroom last week that Android has brought in $31 billion in revenue and $22 billion in profits for Google. The figures were stated in court by the lawyer on January 14th. Oracle is suing Google, claiming that the company used Java without permission while developing the Android OS. Oracle now is seeking more than $1 billion from Google, having added to its original claim to include newer Android models.

Last month Google said that Android N will replace Java with OpenJDK. The latter is the open source version of Java which will not require Google to license it from Oracle. As for the financial information divulged by the attorney, Google said that those numbers should not have been publicly disclosed. In a court filing, the company says that the Oracle attorney used confidential financial information to calculate the figures. This information was in a file marked "Attorney’s Eyes Only." Google has asked a federal judge in San Francisco to redact and seal the publicly available transcripts from the hearing.

While Google doesn't sell the rights to Android, it profits from selling ads that appear on Android devices, and from apps and other content that is sold to Android users from the Google Play Store. 


source: Bloomberg

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43 Comments

1. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

Such greed, fleecing their Fandroids... Oh my mistake, that only works for other certain companies. Oops!

7. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Well, 22 billion is cute compared to Apple's 200+ billion. So its a matter of relative fleecing when it comes to corporations. Who is getting fleeced the hardest is the real issue.

8. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

Actually, on the bare figures there, if we're actually being factual: Google's revenue from Android = $31 Billion. Profit from that revenue = $22 Billion. Apple's last quarter = $55 Billion revenue. Profit from that revenue = $11.1 Billion. So that ACTUAL figures, based on reality rather than fanboy fantasy: Android profit margin = 70.97% Apple profit margin = 20.18% Google are the ones doing the fleecing. As a manufacturer of electrical goods I'd say Apple's margin seems about right and in-line with most companies. Google don't manufacture that much so it's much more pure profit.

12. Toneknows

Posts: 8; Member since: Apr 09, 2015

I didn't see time frame wasn't stated for the Android profit, I highly doubt it was for a quarter.

13. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

Nope, just says the overall figures, the amount doesn't matter, the percentages are what count. Time after time people here say Apple products are too expensive and the "stupid" customers are being ripped off - with actual figures we can see that Apple are making about the right amount, I'd expect Samsung, LG, Sony etc are doing similar but the REAL one ripping people off is Google with the Android OS profit margin.

14. tedkord

Posts: 17311; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

These are silly arguments. Google doesn't charge people for Android. These are figures made from advertising. The consumers aren't paying one thin dime for Android.

16. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Apple fanboy logic, who is fleecing the most on consumer. Android make $22 Billion a year selling Ads space to cooperate, investing their profit back into Android to give it away for free is more greedy than a company that makes; 1st Qty - 13.1 billons Net Profit 2nd Qty - 10.2 billons Net Profit 3rd Qty - 10.7 billons Net Profit 4th Qty - 8.5 billons Net Profit A total 42.5 billons Net Profit from selling directly to consumer, giving nothing back for free. I think the question is who is the biggest idiot, Jimrod.

17. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

They actually give updates for 'free' and also retail stores, a customer support that you can actually reach for their apple id and more.

19. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Agree. I just find it odd that this issue is even raised by Jimrod and given plenty of thumbs up. Two me its highlight two different types of mentality. Apple fans and the rest of the world.

21. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

So you're comparing all the profits Google has made from android, which would be over a 7 year period, vs Apple's profit for one quarter of a year and you consider that even? If you're going to compare them evenly, you need to use equal parameters. Ether you're going to do pare them both over the same period, or over their lifespan. No one would compare profitability of two companies using two different lengths of time for each unless you're talking about total lifespan. And even then it wouldn't be an equal comparison if one was around for a significantly longer period of time.

29. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

I suggest you re think this argument. In a rush to try to paint Apple in a better light vs Google....you seemed to miss some key things....

23. RoboticEngi

Posts: 1251; Member since: Dec 03, 2014

Let's take it from a few different angles. How is googles profit hurting my wallet ? I know how apples are, Eg. a 100$ pen. And then the other angle, didn't you sheep say that it was only apple who could make money? That apple is the best innovators because they have the highest profits etc etc? But now that it turns out others also get profits, it's suddenly a bad thing. Omfg that is a true evidence of the hypocrisy that apple and their sheep show us. It's awesome and unique when apple and their sheep think they are the only ones, and very bad when they realise that they are not.....

27. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Exactly. key word: hypocrisy.

31. mrochester

Posts: 978; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

Google's profits don't hurt your wallet, they hurt your user experience of the internet and online services with incessant advertising. I'd rather pay $100 for the Apple Pencil than look at Google's advertising (which is precisely why I block it all!).

32. tedkord

Posts: 17311; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

My internet experience with and without Google is pretty much the same, other than Google services are better than the competition.

34. Hexa-core

Posts: 2131; Member since: Aug 11, 2015

Right! And it's funny that he says he rather pay a hundred bucks for the iPencil, rather than merely looking at ads which he can ignore without paying a dime... Wow! :O

37. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

Sorry, but ads were around long before Google came around. And correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Apple have their own iAd service? Without advertising on the net, most any site with content would be a paysite. Is that how you'd rather do it? Any site you want to look at, enter your credit card here? Yeah, that would be a much better user experience now wouldn't it? There's a reason that advertising is on TV and radio, because we now also have the alternatives, paid cable stations (HBO, Showtime, etc) and paid radio stations (satellite radio which still runs commercials). Is that the model you want to run with? All content costs the end user? Because now you've just ensured one thing for sure. Anyone using the internet to learn means they better have money to do so, which means poor people are SOL. Of course maybe that's your plan, I don't know.

38. Hexa-core

Posts: 2131; Member since: Aug 11, 2015

Don't mind him, man. If in future he gets employed in a web-based corporation relying on ads for profit, he'll understand what it is.

39. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Funny thing is thanks to Google and their ad words vs pic ads...my experience has actually been better since they started ruling advertising. Some of us remember the wild west days of only pic ads. And using GMail is at least 10 times better than using hotmail thanks to ad words.

26. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

So a company making a huge profit basically giving away its services, software is fleecing....vs the insane mark up for iDevices, Macs. Alrighty then. How about Apple didnt even sell old hardware or even have devices on pre paid carriers until Android took over...

41. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

To each his own, this site even on a pc crashes because of ads, there becomes a point when ads are a plague.

2. darkkjedii

Posts: 30966; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Get ready to right that check Google.

5. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

write*

9. darkkjedii

Posts: 30966; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Damn lol, my bad.

33. tedkord

Posts: 17311; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Two demerits.

36. darkkjedii

Posts: 30966; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Ted...just one please lol.

35. Hexa-core

Posts: 2131; Member since: Aug 11, 2015

"Damn lol, my bad" Huh? Then you claim not to ever misspell, huh? SMH

28. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

I dont get why how much profit they made = them going to lose the case.

3. f_u_006

Posts: 118; Member since: Mar 19, 2014

Long Live Android, the envy of all operating systems.

24. yoosufmuneer

Posts: 1518; Member since: Feb 14, 2015

Not windows lol. Maybe WP

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