Forget the unreasonable royalties, Qualcomm wants to charge Apple contractors $1.3 billion in "processing and handling" fees

Agree if Apple could take hundred's of millions from Samsung for something as rounded icons then this is fair. Every android OEM has rounded icons and slide to unlock now but only Samsung got taken to court obviously because they are Apple's biggest competitiors.

HTC got hit pretty hard with Apple bs as well.

It didn't (for rounded corner icons); that's just a storry.

Same thing I was thinking. When Apple was doing this, Apple fans were down with this.

Just because Apple got away with it when they did it, does not mean that Qualcomm is off the hook for this disgusting garbage. Apple will have their day of reckoning at some point (perhaps), but today is Qualcomm's day of reckoning... Yes, I know that is a double-standard, but these are the cards we've now been dealt. I still want to hear Qualcomm's side of it - hopefully we will get that at some point, too. I'm just glad that I don't have to be the one who decides what happens here, because I'm kinda ticked at both Qualcomm and Apple for getting us, one way or another, to this point... There is just so much money to be made here, that these giants are tripping all over each other to get into everybody's pockets and wallets... and now the lawyers are going to take a dip, too!

Most iOS developer don't think 30% Apple charges for app placement on their Appstore is fair, but they are bound by their contract -- they have to pay up or get out. Simple. Contrary to some fanbois's misguided belief here, Qualcomm's FRAND commitment doesn't amount to "free" or "cheap," as Apple repeatedly claimed and already failed to prove in the court of law (see Samsung's ITC case for instance where Apple's own ETSI/FRAND expertise witness testified against Apple). Even China's antitrust regulator NDRC came out in support of QC's system-level licensing, which QC also offered to Apple and Apple refused. Further, even the FTC doesn't make a bold untrue claim that QC's rates are un-FRAND, only that QC's collect "elevated fees." Only because Apple came late to the mobile wireless game and now has to pay premium to use their invention doesn't mean that Apple's nonsensical, failed legal claims is any more legit now. Now, I'm also starting to see that you continue to spit out Apple soundbites without showing any evidence that you understand the issues at core -- don't expect any response to asinine comments until you make efforts to demonstrate otherwise.

Unless you are saying that someone at Qualcomm LITERALLY "put a gun to [Apple's] head," your metaphor is really out of touch. Apple made the agreement they thought they could live with, given the original language of the SULA's. What Qualcomm has done with that, in turning it into a verbally-based way to take the infinite-series sum of 5% of 5% of 5% of 5%... etc., plus "processing and handling" of $1.3 billion, is really ludicrous, I agree. But Apple agreed to the original SULA's, and I don't think Apple should be completely off-the-hook, free and clear...

Apple's contract manufacturer(s) had a licensing agreement preceding Apple's first iPhone in 2007 -- in another word, Foxconn, Pegatron and etc had been making mobile devices and making payments on time for decades under the existing, fair contract with Qualcomm. There is no gun pointing here. It's just petulant Apple claiming that anything not patented by Apple is worthless.