Protesters arrested after blocking train carrying coal for Apple

Protesters arrested after blocking train carrying coal for Apple
After Greenpeace protesters release a barrage of black balloons inside Apple’s 5th Ave. store to protest the use of coal to fuel its iCloud service, several protesters have attempted to make their views known right at the source.

Seven people were arrested and charged with trespassing after chaining themselves to train tracks used by Duke Energy and Apple to ship coal outside of the Marshall Steam Station in Catawba County, North Carolina. Protesters also raised a sign that read, “Save Our Mountains Clean The Cloud” and draped Apple logos on the train cars, which you can see in the photos below that were captured by WCNC Charlotte, North Carolina and Greenpeace.

Activists maintain that coal is a dirty energy source that causes asthma, makes people sick, and contributes to global warming. They feel companies should be focused on using clean, renewable energy sources instead.

“Apple should be more transparent about its coal problem, and take steps to start solving it, as other tech companies have,” said Casey Harrell, Greenpeace International IT analyst in a statement.

While Apple has not commented on the events yet, representatives from Duke said they have done a lot of work to reduce emissions and plan on shutting down some of their dirty coal plants. While they support people’s right to protest by speaking and holding signs, they said they have zero-tolerance for demonstrations like this because of safety issues.



1. jmoita2

Posts: 930; Member since: Dec 23, 2011

Way to go, Greenpeace!!! Kudos to you!!!

5. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

great way to promote getting arrested..

6. Commentator

Posts: 3723; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

It's also a great way to slow down environmental progress: obstructing business translates to loss of money, which impedes the economic viability of transitioning to green energy. Greenpeace's idea of change follows the same idea as when religious fanatics force their religion on people instead of letting them convert on their own time. People will still jump on Greenpeace's bandwagon if they're working to hurt Apple though. I'm sure most people on this site never cared about this issue until Greenpeace started brought it to light, and suddenly they care.

10. thephoneguy92

Posts: 191; Member since: Dec 29, 2011

And you are the type of people who don't care about something that is potentially harming the planet. I don't care if this was apple, samsung or htc, this is a problem. Stop being ridiculous.

13. Commentator

Posts: 3723; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

What I should have mentioned is that I do support companies switching to more environmentally-friendly, energy efficient methods: it only makes sense in the long-term. However, as I said, this is something that can't reasonably be fixed in the time-frame that Greenpeace is demanding, at least without economic sacrifice that would most likely result in layoffs. Forgive me for also thinking about the well-being of this company's workers. Also, you would have made your point much stronger if you cut "potentially." I "potentially" harm the planet by walking on grass everyday.

27. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

Commentator -- don't be a hypocrite. If you really are concerned about the environment, then don't upgrade your cellphone until the last possible moment. Better yet, don't using a computer or wireless devices and save the environment. Your hypocriscy knows no bounds.

32. kanagadeepan

Posts: 1264; Member since: Jan 24, 2012

That idea is a little bit harsh, imho... I just give my old phone to my staff/relative, who then use it for another two+ years.. That is also a better way to save environment, imho...

33. Commentator

Posts: 3723; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

Hypocrisy? I'm advocating living as a rational human being. Rational people understand how to balance caring for the environment and being productive. Acquiring new phones and using computers increases my productivity, and therefore my net value to society and the world, so long as my intentions are to their benefit. I believe they are, and you really have no say on the matter. For comparison, I don't believe lying down in front of trains is not rational behavior, and my beliefs are that Greenpeace is going about this in the wrong way. I also suspect that a lot of so-called "fandroids" will rally to the cause of Greenpeace simply because they are protesting Apple. While I'm not too keen on what Greenpeace is doing, I do think they deserve more passionate support than just that from people concerned over what amounts to an insignificant squabble between two operating systems.

15. 14545

Posts: 1835; Member since: Nov 22, 2011

Give me a break. Using your words. "Potentially". Ie, meaning not proven well enough to be considered fact.

26. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

Most educated people already know China uses coal to generate much of the country's power needs -- that is, the power to build a crapload of electronic products for US consumers such as android smartphones and tablets, besides iOS devices, MS-OS based computers, etc. This is really NOT news. People weren't complaining when the price of desktops and laptops were cheaper due to production in mainland China.

34. Commentator

Posts: 3723; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

This issue doesn't concern coal power in China. From what I've heard, Chinese environmental regulations are atrocious. I'm not arguing that, so don't change the subject. This issue concerns an American company that claims it has been reducing emissions and closing dirty coal plants.

37. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

Commentator, don't change the SUBJECT -- you wrote: "I'm sure most people on this site never cared about this issue until Greenpeace started brought it to light, and suddenly they care." Again, you are mistaken. The amount of coal that Apple will use is TINY in relation to the amount of coal that mainland China uses to make all the crap that US consumers buy. That is the hyprocrisy. American consumers are DIRECTLY responsible for much of the population in pollution in mainland China and the rest of the world. The truth is American consumers want cheap things and many really don't really care about the enviroment. Do you know how many cell phones are thrown away each year in the US??

40. Commentator

Posts: 3723; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

Okay, let's take a step back and analyse the argument here, because I think something got lost in translation: We both agree that the environment is being put at risk by manufacturers of electronics, and we both seem to agree that the average American consumer doesn't care. To be clear, I NEVER claimed that I cared for the environment (although I do) so don't go around making grandiose statements like "your hypocrisy knows no bounds." Rhetoric like that should be reserved for movies, TV shows, etc. What it looks like we disagree on is a) how Greenpeace is going about enacting change and b) that Android fanboys suddenly care about the environment because Greenpeace is protesting Apple. This being the case, I'll make my argument again for each: a) I personally don't believe that Greenpeace's protests are effective towards their own cause, especially since the company they're protesting has been making strides towards cleaner coal-power. If they were to protest Apple's use of China's coal-power, or an American company that is not cleaning itself up, I wouldn't have as much of a problem. b) My problem with certain commenters on this site is that they tend to make everything out as "good vs. Apple" without understanding or caring about the actual situation. People need to realize that, especially in this situation, Android manufacturers are just as responsible for environmental problems as Apple is; Greenpeace is targeting Apple because they're the most valuable company in the world right now, thus protesting them makes a larger statement than if they protested HTC or Samsung. I hope this can help settle our differences. Cheers.

2. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

Instead of blocking the trains (dangerous) why not block the mines and/or power plants? It'd cost apple more money if the coal were already mined but sitting unused than interrupting the train (which also causes collateral interference for other goods and services moved by the same railway and trains)

28. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

Why is it okay for mainland China to use coal to power its plants to make android handset so android users can have the latest android devices? Would people stop being hypocrites for a change. American consumers buy so much junk (shoes, clothing, computers, etc) from mainland China, and these same American comsumers should be intelligent enough to know how much coal mainland China uses to make said consumer products. Please just stop the madness!

38. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

i actually agree with ardent on this.

39. rn9215

Posts: 51; Member since: Mar 05, 2012

Its at least a step forward to stop using coal....we must discourage usage of dirty energy sources where ever it may be!! And stop with the android-apple bull sh* has nothing to do with it!

3. RaKithAPeiRiZ

Posts: 1488; Member since: Dec 29, 2011

only way to stop iCoal is for them to stop using iProducts

4. ivanko34

Posts: 617; Member since: Sep 04, 2011

Poor apple. Nobody likes them. Except taco

8. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

they dont want to be liked as long as they buy their products...

30. akshaye.shenoi

Posts: 24; Member since: Apr 16, 2012

Does the Like meter respond to your dull-witted statement?

7. Republican

Posts: 99; Member since: Apr 05, 2012

How dare they oppose Apple? To Guantanamo with them. Time for some waterboarding. Nobody can impede the progress of the Free Markets and be allowed to go unpunished.

9. shadowcell

Posts: 300; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

Greenpeace, in case you haven't heard but coal is the primary fuel source for the mass majority of the USA. You want change? Please feel free to invest into nuclear power or other alternative renewable resources for fuel.

12. shadowcell

Posts: 300; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

Actually after thinking about it, Apple IS a hypocrite. They force Foxconnn to change their labor policies and work environment but yet they can't seek alternatives for powering their data center.

14. Commentator

Posts: 3723; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

Maybe they can put some of their ungodly profits into the issue.

31. akshaye.shenoi

Posts: 24; Member since: Apr 16, 2012

FYI Apple's new Headquarter under construction in Cupertino is extremely energy efficient. 13,000 trees are supposedly surrounding the spaceship like building. Plus they have their own power plant which uses 'clean' energy. Check it out.

11. downphoenix

Posts: 3165; Member since: Jun 19, 2010

If I remember correctly, isnt this particular Apple center supposed to be using Renewable resources to power the place? I remember Apple braggin about that. Dumb for Greenpeace to block the tracks, clever of them to put Apple logos on the train, bad of Apple to lie about their power sources.

16. rallyguy

Posts: 620; Member since: Mar 13, 2012

"chaining themselves to train tracks used by Duke Energy and Apple to ship coal" So Apple is involved in the transportation of coal? Common people. The only way Apple is involved in this is a certain amount of the electricity they run their server center on is from coal. Apple doesn't ship it, and Apple doesn't buy coal. Apple buys the end result.

17. jmoita2

Posts: 930; Member since: Dec 23, 2011

It's the end result that counts.

20. parkwaydr

Posts: 572; Member since: Sep 07, 2011

Obviously, you've never worked with coal, the end results of coal are far worse than coal itself.

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