Microsoft gets Motorola patent invalidated in Europe because it was "obvious"
posted by Michael H. / Dec 21, 2012, 5:28 PM
motion first to try to invalidate the patent.The trial was concerning a Motorola patent that was granted back in 2002, which covered technology synchronizing message statuses across multiple devices. The patent is often referred to as Motorola's "Pager Patent", because the process it describes was mainly intended to be used with pagers. Microsoft had been worried that Motorola would use it to sue over similar functionality in Microsoft's Live Messenger, and Exchange ActiveSync, so Microsoft filed a
Well, Judge Richard Arnold found in favor of Microsoft, and has invalidated the patent saying that the patent should never have been granted in the first place because the technology was obvious to experts in the field at the time.
We can think of quite a number of patents that cover technology that is "obvious to common folk", let alone experts, but it seems the USPTO doesn't take that into consideration when deciding on the validity of patents.
Jeezes M$ stop this trial already we are all sick and tired of patent trials.
posted on Dec 21, 2012, 5:29 PM 1
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Companies really enjoy spending all those money in patents and lawsuits that bring zero value to the countries economy. The open market should be the only place to decide whether a product or innovation brings values. Every innovation build on the foundation of other innovations. Human race has evolve on that principle for centuries.
posted on Dec 21, 2012, 6:02 PM 0
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How about the slide to unlock patent??? But its Apple so it with be OK to use in courts, apple will get money from OEM's. Then they invalidate the patent and everyone is to be OK with it?!?!?! Screw this nonsense. I'm tired of Microsoft and Apple playing the innocent ones when in reality they are the most evil companies out there. Scream FRAND all you fanboys want but the truth is slowly coming out.
posted on Dec 21, 2012, 8:40 PM 1
Apple gets nothings from slide to unlock patent. This is only unique way to unlock and it can be replaced easily by Google and Android OEMs. But some Apple broad and generic patents are being invalidated now and expect more to come.
posted on Dec 21, 2012, 8:46 PM 2
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Apple had won slide to unlock against Motorola in Germany, that's why most of Motorola's devices have been banned from the country. Its bulls**t and should be looked into. I'm tired of Microsoft and Apple saying how they NEED to ban other devices for s**tty patents but when its the other way around, they feel like they deserve the royal treatment and not get banned. Hey the Wifi patent from Motorola is just as important as slide to unlock.
posted on Dec 22, 2012, 5:26 PM 0
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are you joking? the judge is an idiot, pager system is fairly complicated to make it "obvious". I mean, unless this man has a phd, a degree in comunications enginering, and a degree in law he has no right to call that obvious. That is the problem with common law system, it's too subjective.
posted on Dec 21, 2012, 9:19 PM 2
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Then why the heck MS charging fees from android OEMs for obvious patents?????
posted on Dec 21, 2012, 10:44 PM 1
Oh for the love of god.. You android fanboys are amazingly dense.. This is an obvious and should be invalidated.. You cry because Samsung got sued over a silly patent now you cry about them correcting a silly patent.. Just stop already.. There are many more that need invalidated.. Slide to unlock included
posted on Dec 22, 2012, 6:06 AM 2
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they see this as a slap to there android castle, its pathetic when they say abot silly patents they only mean anyone who arent using android on there devices. if samsung had the rounded corner crap patent most on here would cheer genius............its the way fanboys are i think the patent system needs a complete overhaul, so many stupid ones that are too vague. all patents should be specific and for real innovation, ground breaking idea's with concepts and working prototypes etc
posted on Dec 22, 2012, 7:11 AM 4
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Now, I am disappointed that this judgement when against Motorola since I feel Apple is guilty of having more obvious patents that anyone else. However, I am happy that the patent offices have started to raise the bar before they grant a patent and they also have started to review past ones.
posted on Dec 23, 2012, 6:50 PM 0
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