Microsoft gets Motorola patent invalidated in Europe because it was "obvious"

Microsoft gets Motorola patent invalidated in Europe because it was
This is a ruling that we'd love to see coming through a lot more often in patent lawsuits in the US, but unfortunately, this news is coming from the UK. Microsoft has won a trial against Motorola (and therefore Google) in Europe, which has led to a Motorola patent being invalidated because the technology it covered was deemed to be "obvious".

The trial was concerning a Motorola patent that was granted back in 2002, which covered technology synchronizing message statuses across multiple devices. The patent is often referred to as Motorola's "Pager Patent", because the process it describes was mainly intended to be used with pagers. Microsoft had been worried that Motorola would use it to sue over similar functionality in Microsoft's Live Messenger, and Exchange ActiveSync, so Microsoft filed a motion first to try to invalidate the patent. 

Well, Judge Richard Arnold found in favor of Microsoft, and has invalidated the patent saying that the patent should never have been granted in the first place because the technology was obvious to experts in the field at the time. 

We can think of quite a number of patents that cover technology that is "obvious to common folk", let alone experts, but it seems the USPTO doesn't take that into consideration when deciding on the validity of patents. 

source: Bloomberg



1. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

Jeezes M$ stop this trial already we are all sick and tired of patent trials.

16. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

it was countering the patent by MS to be on safe side not fining motorola

2. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

Obvious? We'll call it even when you invalidate MS' patent on making two SMS msgs appear as one... ...and the stupid meeting appointment one... Funny how apple suffered a ban due to that patent...

3. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Companies really enjoy spending all those money in patents and lawsuits that bring zero value to the countries economy. The open market should be the only place to decide whether a product or innovation brings values. Every innovation build on the foundation of other innovations. Human race has evolve on that principle for centuries.

10. rusticguy

Posts: 2828; Member since: Aug 11, 2012

Advocates who fight in courtroom and the courtroom itself doesn't operate free :)

4. MeoCao unregistered

I love Google and don't like MS, but I think this invalidation is good for technology. Broad patents on such trivial matters will do harm to innovation. Hopefully all such patents will be invalidated.

5. theBankRobber

Posts: 682; Member since: Sep 22, 2011

How about the slide to unlock patent??? But its Apple so it with be OK to use in courts, apple will get money from OEM's. Then they invalidate the patent and everyone is to be OK with it?!?!?! Screw this nonsense. I'm tired of Microsoft and Apple playing the innocent ones when in reality they are the most evil companies out there. Scream FRAND all you fanboys want but the truth is slowly coming out.

6. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

The UK court DID rule it invalid due to the Neonode1, thanks to the recent apple trial vs. samsung.

7. MeoCao unregistered

Apple gets nothings from slide to unlock patent. This is only unique way to unlock and it can be replaced easily by Google and Android OEMs. But some Apple broad and generic patents are being invalidated now and expect more to come.

12. 8logic

Posts: 154; Member since: Mar 05, 2012

people have been sliding things to lock and unlock things forever............. just think about it

13. MeoCao unregistered

Maybe u r right, but why waste time and efforts to fight a worthless patent? Apple tried to use that patent to sue others but was told they can't do that again. And we have millions of better ways to unlock things.

18. theBankRobber

Posts: 682; Member since: Sep 22, 2011

Apple had won slide to unlock against Motorola in Germany, that's why most of Motorola's devices have been banned from the country. Its bulls**t and should be looked into. I'm tired of Microsoft and Apple saying how they NEED to ban other devices for s**tty patents but when its the other way around, they feel like they deserve the royal treatment and not get banned. Hey the Wifi patent from Motorola is just as important as slide to unlock.

8. johnnh

Posts: 37; Member since: Dec 18, 2012

are you joking? the judge is an idiot, pager system is fairly complicated to make it "obvious". I mean, unless this man has a phd, a degree in comunications enginering, and a degree in law he has no right to call that obvious. That is the problem with common law system, it's too subjective.

11. JC557

Posts: 1919; Member since: Dec 07, 2011

Not to mention that Motorola had a hand in pushing the era of cellphones.

9. shuaibhere

Posts: 1986; Member since: Jul 07, 2012

Then why the heck MS charging fees from android OEMs for obvious patents?????

17. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

because other OEMS dont go to court to invalidate them :P

14. papss unregistered

Oh for the love of god.. You android fanboys are amazingly dense.. This is an obvious and should be invalidated.. You cry because Samsung got sued over a silly patent now you cry about them correcting a silly patent.. Just stop already.. There are many more that need invalidated.. Slide to unlock included

15. chaoticrazor

Posts: 2347; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

they see this as a slap to there android castle, its pathetic when they say abot silly patents they only mean anyone who arent using android on there devices. if samsung had the rounded corner crap patent most on here would cheer genius............its the way fanboys are i think the patent system needs a complete overhaul, so many stupid ones that are too vague. all patents should be specific and for real innovation, ground breaking idea's with concepts and working prototypes etc

19. putes

Posts: 38; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

Now, I am disappointed that this judgement when against Motorola since I feel Apple is guilty of having more obvious patents that anyone else. However, I am happy that the patent offices have started to raise the bar before they grant a patent and they also have started to review past ones.

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