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Jony Ive no longer involved in Apple physical hardware design in the same capacity?

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Jony Ive no longer involved in Apple physical hardware design in the same capacity?
In the latest episode of long-time Apple blogger John Gruber's Talk Show, guesting SixColors founder Jason Snell briefly touched on design chief Jony Ive's current role in the Cupertino company. Mr. Snell has heard that that Jony Ive is currently not as involved in physical hardware design as he used to be. Rather, he's been largely focused on architecture matters, such as Apple's "spaceship" campus and the company's retail stores. He's working closely with Apple retail executive Angela Arhendts on these cases.

If true, this means that Jony Ive won't directly mastermind the rumored all-screen iPhone 8. Scheduled for 2017, the device is said to have an OLED display with an embedded touch-based haptic home button. Meanwhile, some argue that the recently released "Designed by Apple in California" photo book is part of Ive's prolonged retirement. For example, he's been seen very little in Apple advertising in the past few years, mostly being present as a background voice for product design movies shown at keynotes. He's also not attending all Apple events, despite his high-level position of Chief Design Officer.

As with all internal Apple matters, it's hard to be absolutely sure about anything. Still, even if Jony Ive is no longer crafting iPhones by himself, his work for Apple over the past 20 years will leave a lasting legacy for the company's design team to follow.

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posted on 21 Nov 2016, 18:16 13

1. kiko007 (Posts: 5188; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


Thank God.........it finally happened!

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 20:53

22. AlikMalix (unregistered)


One of the wonderful news that we get between Apple keynote releases. Ive is washed up!!!

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 22:07 3

27. Doakie (Posts: 2227; Member since: 06 May 2009)


They finally called it quits on his boring old designs.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 22:27

29. AlikMalix (unregistered)


He did good, but it seems like he's out of ideas or he's under constrictions either technical or budget. Either way he should have impressed us with designs - instead seems like a one trick pony. I'm disappointed on how the front panel is dated compared to many phones.

posted on 22 Nov 2016, 06:45

34. tedkord (Posts: 13776; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


The designs went way downhill after Jobs passed. I suspect Steve kept Ive in check, probably vetoed dozens of designs each model and guided Jony. Everything he's designed since has been really hideous, which seems strange compared to the beautiful 4/5 designs.

posted on 22 Nov 2016, 11:55

37. AlikMalix (unregistered)


6/6s camera bump is hideous and the bezels are big - but overall design isn't hideous especially with black screen in front (white is ugly). So I agree with you

But the 7 camera bump is actually nice. And the black colors are very nice. They just need to work on screen to body ratio and they got a good designed phone.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 18:17 12

2. darkkjedii (Posts: 24329; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Maybe it actually will look different.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 18:21 6

3. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 3359; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Well hat is some great news right there, it's about time the design language of the iPhone changes a little.....or a lot lol.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 18:28

5. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 3359; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


That*** lol hat.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 18:23 8

4. tedkord (Posts: 13776; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Good move. Without the guiding hand of Steve Jobs, he really jumped the shark.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 20:16 4

15. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14041; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Jony with Steve is like Pippin without Jordan, Robin without Batman.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 21:37

25. joey_sfb (Posts: 6533; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Nightwing.

Anyway, good ridden sick of him doing the same impression on every keynote.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 18:49 5

6. sissy246 (Posts: 3873; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


That is some good news for Apple in moving forward. Now if the could just get rid of Cook and find a Jobs clone.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 19:16 1

9. ctdog4748 (Posts: 797; Member since: 05 Mar 2016)


Stop making that oft repeated line "get rid of Cook and find a Jobs clone." It's stupid and shows a lack of thought.

1) There isn't and will never be another Jobs. Same with Gates, Zuckerberg, Page & Brin, etc, etc.

2) The most Jobs could do, and the same for the others I listed, is to have a successor that will grow the company and keep it profitable.

3) Tim Cook guided Apple into being the most profitable and valuable company on earth.

You are not on the short list of people that would succeed Cook, nor are you going to head any other corporation, so please just slither away.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 19:45 1

12. sissy246 (Posts: 3873; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


OMG stupid
I know there will never be a Jobs again. But Apple would be even further along if Jobs was still alive.
I respect Jobs, I don't Cook and that my business. I think there are a lot of people out there that would say they like Jobs better.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 20:42

20. ctdog4748 (Posts: 797; Member since: 05 Mar 2016)


How do you know they'd be further along. Give me specifics. What do you know that Tim Cook doesn't about how to run Apple profitably?

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 21:20

23. sissy246 (Posts: 3873; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


look I am not going to argue with you over how I feel about Jobs or Cook.
Apple would not even still be around if it was not for Jobs.
It's a Discussion board not a arguing board.
I sure hope you are a nicer person off here then you are on here. On here you are a true ass if someone doesn't agree with you.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 22:36

30. ctdog4748 (Posts: 797; Member since: 05 Mar 2016)


Not arguing kid, just calling you out when you write ridiculous statements. If you can't handle that, then stay off public forums.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 23:17

31. sissy246 (Posts: 3873; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


Well for one thing I am not a kid, lol I bet I am older then you.
IMO, I know not yours, Apple has been going down hill since Jobs passed away. Stock has slowly been going down to me innovation has been getting less JMO I know..

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 19:47 1

14. NoToFanboys (Posts: 2927; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


So you're happy with someone who cares more about the shareholders rather than the loyal customers? Wow, you really are an idiot.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 18:52

7. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14041; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


He probably was like...Apple when are you going to learn?

We sued Samsung for supposedly making a phone that looks like an iPhone, and now you want me to design a phone, that looks like the Galaxy?

He was like

.i just don't do it.

I have meticously designed the iPhone, to be as bkri g as a unsalted cracker, yet be refined ad a dual edged butter knife

The iPhone was specially. Rafted of the cheapest materials we can fine, yet we polish to perfection to give it it's premium look and feel.

And now you want to drop our cop if design to copy Samsung? I don't do it.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 19:05

8. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14041; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


We are about to find out, what an Android phone would be like running iOS.

It's gonna be like Vanilla Android. Flat and boring.

Can't copy TouchWiz.

I don't care about the look all that much, I want to see what iOS X brings. Will it just bring all the features I've e hours on the phone of a true leader, or is Apple going to bring something new to the table?

Getting rid of Ive would be a huge step in the right direction. I knew he was through when he regurgitated the same design for a 3rd time.

Just like the HTC guy designing the same phone 3 times in a .

The down side to Samsung is, all the Galaxies use similar design language and it makes thebdeaign boring after the first year. If they kept the dual glass design strictly to the S and Note, then that would be better.

I do like 20 phone models looking like the top 2.

But will take the edge design over a 3-peat iPhone design.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 19:47 3

13. kiko007 (Posts: 5188; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


You just like hearing yourself talk......don't you? Be honest...

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 20:21

17. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14041; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Not as much as Jony Ive likes gear his voice.

The funniest thing is when he was talking about the iPhone 5c. Even he wasn t convinced of what he was saying.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 19:38

10. jesus_sheep (Posts: 279; Member since: 18 Apr 2015)


Good bye Johnny I've. Now I can actually look forward to an apple device. I would always remember you for the beautifully colored seamlessly plastic 5c.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 19:45 3

11. MrElectrifyer (banned) (Posts: 3960; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)


They should also get him out of the development of iOS, and rehire Scott Forstal with double the pay. Ever since ive took over iOS development, iOS has been way too fugly for me to use officially, and apple being apple, can't be bothered to give the choice of how I want my device to look...

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 20:19 3

16. bossman (Posts: 238; Member since: 27 Jan 2016)


Jony Ive is probably the one who decided to get rid of the headphone jack

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 20:28

18. jeroome86 (Posts: 2013; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


Looks like a big design change on the way. Hope it's great. Don't care for the glass back rumors though.

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 20:38

19. tangbunna (Posts: 133; Member since: 29 Sep 2016)


apple will buy mi mix design which is cheaper than jonh ive salary

posted on 21 Nov 2016, 20:47

21. ctdog4748 (Posts: 797; Member since: 05 Mar 2016)


Yet Jony Ive has a position of prestige in a well regarded company, and he's a millionaire many times over. And here all you critics that know soooo better than him the field of design, are relegated to working at a menial vocation and surviving paycheck to paycheck. Ain't life unfair!

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