Google is charging iOS YouTube Red subscribers more to protest Apple's policies

Google is charging iOS YouTube Red subscribers more to protest Apple's policies
YouTube Red sounds like a pretty solid deal. You basically get Google Play Music All Access for $9.99 and as a bonus, Google is tossing in an ad-free experience on YouTube... at least, that's how it will work for Android users and those on the web. Unfortunately, if you want to get YouTube Red through the iOS app, you'll have to pay a premium.

iOS users will be charged $12.99 rather than the $9.99 fee it would cost for Android, desktop, and mobile Web users. Google said this is because Apple takes a 30 percent cut of all subscription revenue on its platform, and Google is passing that cost directly onto the consumer in order to be able to give content creators the share of the revenue they are due rather than having a portion simply taken by Apple. 

The unclear part of this policy is when users would be charged this amount. Apple would only be taking the cut of the subscription service if the purchase is made in-app and goes through the App Store. In other cases, developers would bump users into Safari in order to purchase a subscription like this, effectively getting around Apple's policy. Similarly, it is unclear if someone who purchases the subscription on the Web (or already has a subscription based on being a Play Music subscriber) would be charged more just to be able to sign in to an iOS device. That seems highly unlikely though. 

We'll have to update you when this gets cleared up, because Google hasn't listed the iOS pricing policy on any official sites yet. 

source: Ars Technica



1. javy108

Posts: 1004; Member since: Jul 27, 2014

Google and Apple hungers from money together against iOS users, oh I forget iOS users mostly are proud of themself for paying more.

3. Hexa-core

Posts: 2131; Member since: Aug 11, 2015

And they fail to understand that most expensive does not mean best!

5. mistercarter

Posts: 360; Member since: Sep 01, 2011

hmmm okay, so we can apply that philosophy when the Galaxy S6 Edge launched in Europe with higher prices than the iPhone 6 Plus

7. maherk

Posts: 6879; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

2012 specs vs 2015 specs(apart from the cpu). And why not go ahead and talk about Apple's other products? Maybe you wanna start with the iPencil?

27. bungid

Posts: 25; Member since: Mar 16, 2015

Apple have to pay engineer salary to develop IOS. Lazy samsung get free Android from Google and still charge more?

34. iushnt

Posts: 3105; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

TouchWiz, due to which Sammy gets the best optimization in its products, is not done for free. One of the best camera algorithm, best optimization for power consumption, effective ultra power saving mode, Samsung Pay, Knox, best calibrated display output did not land on those phones for free

38. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Also the design, the fact they make their own hardware which costs more than having someone make it for you. Remember, Foxconn does assembly. Samsung actually makes it.

48. nodes

Posts: 1160; Member since: Mar 06, 2014

at the cost of performance and ugly UI.

35. maherk

Posts: 6879; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

And Samsung has to build the majority of their components from scratch, where as Apple go on fishing from one source to another. Samsung also went on to spend more than 3 Billion Dollars this year alone on R&D, how much did the fruit company invest?

37. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Not the same. It's cost Samsung $300 to make an s6 edge, that starts at 699 on verizon. Europe pays nearmy the same as we pay in the USA. I Checked, which I have an account on. The S6 Edge is 633 euros. GSM models are always more than CDMA. Plus, Europe gets the u locked International ver s ion which always costs more than the carrier locked GSM version. T-Mobile is unlocked and usually costs more

9. willard12 unregistered

The Galaxy S6 Edge costs a lot more to build than the iphone 6 plus. You need to try a different philosophy.

11. Napalm_3nema

Posts: 2236; Member since: Jun 14, 2013

The S6 Edge costs Samsung more than the 6S Plus costs Apple to build might be a fair argument, but it isn't a BOM=BOM argument. It's more expensive for Sammy because they lack Apple's economies of scale, but there are a lot more off-the-shelf components in the S6 Edge than there are in the iPhone.

20. Doakie

Posts: 2478; Member since: May 06, 2009

What are these "more of the shelf" products you're speaking of? Pretty much everything inside or outside these products have to be custom designed for each chassis. Also "economies of scale" seems bunk because Samsung sells tens of millions of their Galaxy S line just like the iPhone, except Apple pays Pegatron or Foxcon to manufacture their phone while Samsung builds them in their own factories. It's always more expensive to pay a subcontractor to build something for you vs you building it yourself. I fail to see these assumptions you're making.

39. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

It's cheap to use a subcontractor, than doing it yourself when it comes to this..

24. willard12 unregistered

I have no idea what community college tried to teach you microeconomics. But, to say that Samsung, with hundreds more factories, ships tens of thousands more phones, has tens of thousands more employees, and the capacity to produce it's own components doesn't have Apple's economies of scale is a joke. When you apply economies of scale, then Apple gets materials cheaper than the BOM, then Apple is ripping customers even more than published. If the BOM on an iphone 6s plus is $231, and Apple pays even less than that with economies of scale, you're only pointing out how Apple is pulling even MORE profit from the consumer than the difference between their price and the BOM. You're saying that Apple uses cheaper parts, they get those parts at an even cheaper price because of volume, and aren't passing any of those savings to the consumer.

36. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

They do know this, they just don't care. After all if they are willing to pay, it must be the best, Right ? It's the best for them so let them be happy.

8. Bm888

Posts: 517; Member since: Jul 06, 2015

No iFan is Spared by Apple Rip Off. ™

21. Doakie

Posts: 2478; Member since: May 06, 2009

Didn't you know it's cool to put everything on a credit card and live your life buried in debt. More Apple tax please!!! THE MORE I SPEND ON APPLE PRODUCTS THE COOLER AND MORE PRESTIGIOUS I AM!!!

23. rick_mobile

Posts: 358; Member since: Dec 13, 2010

Everybody loses money with apple

2. Goldeneye

Posts: 419; Member since: Jan 22, 2011

No problem, Apple fans will pay whatever Apple's patented policies dictate.

17. 8ozchickenbreast unregistered

Demographically proven, Apple users make more income than Android users. A few bucks extra for an app and all you babies are crying comment after comment. lulz.

22. Doakie

Posts: 2478; Member since: May 06, 2009

Android user lives matter!

31. willard12 unregistered

The extra bucks for an app is only on ios. So you have to be accusing "rich" Apple users( who mostly buy on subsidy or pay month to month) of crying comment after comment. And those demographics you refer to includes smaller android oems that sell devices in smaller countries where Iphones arent sold that don't even have access to the Play Store. Hence, more people that don't spend on apps.

32. HouTexan

Posts: 461; Member since: Jan 08, 2012

That's because the majority of android phones are targeted to people in lower classes worldwide, you idiot. You cannot even think to compare the 2 user bases because it's not a fair comparison.

40. 8ozchickenbreast unregistered

Exactly, my point proven. Are you mental?

41. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Yeah because people with money need to lease a phone? I see plenty of poor people with iPhone. The reality is its just not true. I see people who work retail and fast food have iPhones...those people are not rich. If you want an iPhone just buy it. What Android users have found is, you can get a phone equal too, or better than an iPhone for less money. Foe example, the Motorola X has similar specs as the iphone, but cost about 1/2. The only devices that cost more is the latest from Samsung and Sony. But those devices are of better quality vs Moto, HTC and others. Also poor people need phones too. Guess what, most people buy cheap cars, rent apartments and by clothes 2nd hand. Is that a bad thing? Apple wants to cater to rich...why? Rich people don't think about what they b uy. They just buy, hate it later and tuck it away. After all, what fool would pay $1700 for a $1000 PC just to read email and Web surf? What fool would spend money on a phone, that looks the same 2 or 3 years in a row? No one buys cars that wzy...or homes....right?

4. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Considering Apple users are most likely to pay for their apps....Google knows where the money will come from and it wont be android users...imo that is, I could be entirely wrong.

6. DnB925Art

Posts: 1168; Member since: May 23, 2013

This is similar to a story ran here about other services like Spotify, etc. are in a competitive disadvantage because of the Apple commission. They would either have to raise prices to cover the fee (and thus make them higher priced than Apple Music) or eat the commission and get less revenue (which would either lower the payouts to the artists or make the service less profitable).

13. nepalisherpa

Posts: 338; Member since: Jul 17, 2015

Google charges 30% for in-app purchases as well.

18. tedkord

Posts: 17357; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Google also allows in app purchases that don't go through Google, and thus do not accrue the 30% charge, Apple does not, in app purchases must go through Apple. No one is forced in Android. That's the difference.

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