Ex-Microsofter explains why Windows 10 for phone uses hamburger menus

Ex-Microsofter explains why Windows 10 for phone uses hamburger menus
An anonymous former Microsoft employee who designed the new version of Office for Windows 10 for phone, is the subject of an AMA (Ask Me Anything) on Reddit. Explaining the reason why the software giant is going to use a hamburger menu on the new build of the mobile OS, he explained that after adding things like a title bar on top for Office, and room for what he calls "hero actions" on the top right of the screen, there wasn't much room left over for a print icon. Looking at the top left corner, he figured that if Android apps could stuff things there, so could he. "And so it became clear, due to the massive number of features in Office apps, and the extremely tight real estate, and alignment with tablets, that a hamburger was the best overall pattern."

In a video that accompanies the AMA, the former Microsoft software designer explains the difference between iOS and Android, both of which which put a title bar on top flanked by navigation and action prompts, and the Windows Phone UI. The latter has used a side swiping navigation system with action prompts on bottom.

As our hero points out, horizontal navigation is not exactly ideal. "It's part carousel, part 'mystery meat navigation' and it just doesn't work. So. We needed to figure out what the new model would be." He also pointed out that there was no convergence with Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 because of the lack of a top navigation bar as found on the desktop OS. But it is an easily fixed problem says the former Microsoft employee, solved for Windows 10 by putting navigation controls on top, and keeping the action prompts on bottom. And next to the navigation bar on top a hamburger menu is employed.

So that is why Windows 10 for phone has something in common with Android and McDonald's. Hamburgers. And by the way, even though our hero remains anonymous, Reddit has indeed verified his identity.



source: Reddit via WindowsCentral

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15 Comments

1. brrunopt

Posts: 742; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

You can add nav on top but dont take away swiping sideways , its actualy a lot more natural to use than having to reach a menu on the top.

2. faptastic

Posts: 65; Member since: Aug 19, 2014

I don't know how serious to take this stuff. The guy has been gone from MS for a year or so and he was working on Office design before that. The same Office that was initially designed for iOS and Android. He clearly has a strong opinion but he's pretty clueless about a few things and makes a few dangerous and, frankly, quite stupid assumptions.

3. Veigald

Posts: 290; Member since: Jan 13, 2012

AMA with an anonymous person? Useless if we don't know his exact competence to answer the questions.

6. Alan01

Posts: 623; Member since: Mar 21, 2012

His identity and claims were verified by Reddit. Regards, Alan F.

15. Veigald

Posts: 290; Member since: Jan 13, 2012

That I read, but by exact competence to answer the questions I mean how long he worked there, what responsibility he had, why he left etc. Just knowing that he was in fact a previous MS employee says very little.

4. shuaibhere

Posts: 1986; Member since: Jul 07, 2012

Where is liveitup he was Android copied three dot menu from Windows bla bla bla..... What will he say now???

5. shuaibhere

Posts: 1986; Member since: Jul 07, 2012

Where is liveitup he was like Android copied three dot menu from Windows bla bla bla..... What will he say now???

7. colinkiama

Posts: 60; Member since: Nov 23, 2013

Windows still has the 3 dot menu. Great artists still right? I guess it's 1-1

8. shuaibhere

Posts: 1986; Member since: Jul 07, 2012

I'm not complaining about anything... I know it happens... There lot of things common things in all three major OSs .. But liveitup use to complain about it always...

14. Tanujtiwari

Posts: 84; Member since: Mar 18, 2015

Namaste dost keep it up. Android mast hai baki sab past hai

9. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

hambuger menu just like in google chrome

10. epdm2be

Posts: 824; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

So using the same thing (an icon depicting a menu) as everybody else needs clarification? Wow, as if there's nothing REALLY important to write about...

11. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

It's because it was a hot topic since win7. Half the people wanted familiar menus the other half loved the metro ui swivel. I think the best is a combo like they have done with some of the apps.

12. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

I hate the idea of top-mounted navigation. Bottom-mounted is one of my favorite features of Windows Phone since 7, as it feels massively better, and I don't have to stretch my thumbs or move my hands up to interact with menus. I tried the Windows 10 for Phones Technical Preview and rolled back to WP8.1 within a few hours. I hope they offer the option to let the user decide if they want bottom or top-mount navigation. It's a hot topic on the TP Feedback system.

13. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

I like both, there was that concept/app that showed both being used. Personally i wish there was a settings that would simply allow you to change it.

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