Edward Snowden not a fan of Allo, dubs it "Google Surveillance"
posted by Ben R. / Sep 22, 2016, 2:39 PM
Via his Twitter page, Snowden has urged users to steer clear of the chat app, which he's dubbed as "Google Surveillance". Back when it launched the service along with the Duo video chat app back at I/O, Google assured the world that Allo would only store data "transiently," meaning your chat logs would not be held on Google's servers indefinitely. Google also indicated that any data collected would be anonymous, so could not be traced back to its originator. All well and good, we thought. Allo might actually be a real boon for consumer privacy, we thought.
be artificially intelligent. If Assistant is reading them, that means Google can read them, which also means law enforcement or anyone with a warrant -- such as, incidentally, the NSA -- can have a good sift through the information you feed to Allo.
Sure, Allo is not especially worse than other chat apps in how it handles data. Content is transmitted over HTTPS secure connection, which means hackers probably won't be able to get in on your stuff. But to Google, as well as those aforementioned government agencies, your private data is essentially an open book.
As Snowden adds, it's relatively easy for government agencies to gain a subpoena to retrieve your info should they see fit. Additionally, the way information is stored means its easily traceable back to the user. Of course, Allo does include Incognito Mode, which utilizes similar encryption methods to the Snowden-advocated Signal app. But by default, it doesn't, leading Snowden to conclude that as an overall product, Allo is not a privacy risk worth taking.
Do you agree? Let us know what you make of Snowden's comments below.
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This is just one of many methods the US observes us with. Nothing we can do about save for laying back and accepting it.
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 3:00 PM 1
I find it difficult to believe that you honestly think the US is the only government that is surveilling you. But no, we can vote with our dollars, and actually you know... talk to our representatives by contacting them. Instead of throwing our hands up and absolving ourselves of responsibility.
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 3:20 PM 4
If people choose to not vote someone out of office, that is on them. But generally speaking actually calling and talking to your representatives can make change. One of the biggest reasons that the NRA is so powerful it is because they mobilize their membership to get riled up over everything and throw rallies, and talk to senators. Reps don't pay that much attention to tweets, but they do pay attention at the Townhall meetings and phone calls. Like I said, absolving yourself of responsibility is not an answer. Throwing our hands up in the air and saying that we have no say in the way government is ran only ensures that those in power stay there.
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 4:14 PM 2
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Can't get away with privacy nowadays no matter how hard we try. But Snowden is making a big deal because Allo's encryption isn't turned on by default... "Of course, Allo does include Incognito Mode, which utilizes similar encryption methods to the Snowden-advocated Signal app..."
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 9:38 PM 2
Posts: 521; Member since: Oct 27, 2015
i will keep saying it:google's love for anti-privacy and data is her major 'frankestein monster'...they are lucky that they ve gained ground on search,smartphones etc otherwise,people would shun their services,as the world is becoming conscious of their privacy
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 3:05 PM 0
I am really, really curious as to whether or not that last part is actually true. I wonder how many people truly do care about their privacy, and do something about it.... And how many just say they do, shrug their shoulders, and go back to the same services.
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 3:22 PM 2
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Martineverest and TerryTerius if you honestly think that both Microsoft and Apple don't look at others messages or if you think for one moment that they cannot see what users do or install on their systems. Then you really are idiots. Not to mention the government and router companies can reroute Internet traffic as well. So it's like a no win situation. The only OS's that have any hint of control are FreeBSD, and some versions of Linux. But you need a lot of knowledge to lock them down and control what they can and cannot do. If you want to browse the internet then you should use a VM that is read only.
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 6:49 PM 0
What are you talking about? Who said anything even close to that? My question was about whether or not people were truly becoming conscious of their privacy, or if most people were shrugging it off. I didn't say a single word about any company/governmental agency, or who was looking at what. Honestly don't even know where you got that from.
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 11:44 PM 0
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if google keep meddling into people's privacy,they wouldnt be able to expand....their future will be in jeopardy if they dont change
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 3:07 PM 0
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You can b*tch about privacy all you want, but the majority of all smartphone users readily share every bit of their lives on social media, so how much privacy is there left to meddle with? Personally I feel Google tries to be more transparant in how they use the data, than for example Apple who's personal assistent has about the same capabilities as Google Now, but offers no insight into it whatsoever. In truth they're no better if not potentially worse than Google and Microsoft, they claim to be better but in reality do the exact same thing. It's all about appearances.
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 4:05 PM 4
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Who gives a s**t about Snowden. He is just someone you cannot trust....
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 3:12 PM 1
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Great! Now the government has me confessing to my friend that I mistook the laundry basket for the toilet the other night when I came home plastered and crapped all over my wife's unmentionables. My life is ruined and it's all because of a smartphone app! /s
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 3:17 PM 4
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Google or Snowden...? Not sure in who to believe.
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 4:05 PM 0
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How come Snowden is the go to guy on all this? There's no one else in the web community with credibility because of a low level nsa guy that leaked info? Nah, his 15 minutes of fame is up.
posted on Sep 22, 2016, 5:02 PM 0
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