CyanogenMod crew split if they should bother developing custom ROMs for the Samsung Galaxy S 4
posted by Daniel P. / Mar 20, 2013, 4:19 AM
Now this is not a pretty development, pun intended. The group that delivered to you the famed CyanogenMod ROMs for the Samsung Galaxy line before, is apparently not planning to put as much effort into the Galaxy S 4. This is their reasoning:
The CyanogenMod crew, however, was quick to issue a rebuttal that says it's premature to judge whether or not the S 4 will be good for hacking and modding:
Given that one of the many attractions of buying a Samsung flagship has so far been developer and custom ROM support that squeeze every last mile out of the hardware, and iron out the software kinks faster than Samsung does, an eventual developer reluctance is not good news for future S 4 owners that like to tweak. Most buyers aren't hacking and modding, though, so this might not be a dealbreaker for them. What do you think?
- Display 5.0" 1080 x 1920 pixels
- Camera 13 MP / 2 MP front
- Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 600, Quad-core, 1900 MHz
- Storage 64 GB + microSDXC
- Battery 2600 mAh(17h 3G talk time)
Posts: 327; Member since: Jun 11, 2012
a dark day for the king of the galaxy
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 4:25 AM 17
Posts: 2155; Member since: Oct 29, 2012
Did you read the article? They just announced that they are NOT shutting the S4 out.
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 4:35 AM 9
Posts: 74; Member since: Sep 26, 2012
Not necessarily a dark day I personally dont prefer the CM roms I Think samsung roms has much more usefull features that I dont like to give up by using CM such as pop-up play and mini apps My only concern would if it's gonna get root or not
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 6:10 AM 7
Yeah, that's the main reason why many senior members on XDA are sticking to the official firmwares. Even I, who was a big fan of CM an AOSP, is using a custom rom based on the official firmware from Samsung. The latter have been doing a marvellous job with their softwares lately.
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 9:25 AM 2
Posts: 922; Member since: Oct 18, 2011
I agree. I have not run CM for a long time in any of my phones. Don't care for the ROMs. Having said that.. I know they are the workhorse behind mose of the non-TW based ROMs. I rooted/unlocked my Note2 and after playing with a few ASOP ROMS, I went to Touch Wiz based ROMS and don't plan on going back. There are too many great features that Sammy cooked into TW that I don't want to throw away - Spen support being a big one. Wow.. I can't believe I just said I don't want to run stock(ish) Android.. I have ALWAYS been a big supporter of stock. Sammy is doing a good job with SW!!
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 11:33 AM 2
I don't understand the hype of exynos, it has 4g lte built-in, yet only Korean carrier support it, the rest support Qualcomm... not to mention, exynos exploited twice, people start to question the ability of exynos...
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 4:27 AM 13
Posts: 2263; Member since: Apr 26, 2012
I'm sorry if my comment is a bit unrelated but I don't understand how octa core works(why did samsung highlight green the other four cores?)-http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151531492826488&set=a.10151462574381488.535947.314882591487&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 4:47 AM 0
Posts: 5713; Member since: Oct 23, 2011
the way Samsung's Exynos 5 Octa works is you have 4 low powered Cortex A7 Cores to do menial tasks like scrolling through home pages and whatnot and then you have the high powered big boys in the form of quad Cortex A15 Cores which take over for more intensive tasks. they'll never all run at once and the point of this is mainly to save battery power.
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 9:32 AM 3
Correct, this is how the big.LITTLE works but(yeah there's a but) all 8 cores can be used simultaneously by the system. It's called the big.LITTLE MP. So basically, the Exynos 5 Octa is really an octo-core processor. Heterogeneous Multi-Processing (HMP) This is the other actual implemented function mode of a big.LITTLE CPU. In this case, all 8 cores can be used simultaneously by the system. This is a vastly more complex working mechanism, and its implementation is also an order of magnitude more sophisticated. It requires the kernel scheduler to actually be aware of the differentiation of between the A7 and A15 cores. Currently, the Linux kernel is not capable of doing this and treats all CPUs as equals. This is a problem since we do not want to use the A15 cores when a task can simply me processed on an A7 core with a much lower power cost. The Linaro working-group already finished the first implementation of the HMP design as a series of patches to be applied against the Linux 3.8 kernel. What they did is to make the scheduler smart enough to be able to track the load of single process entities, and with that information to schedule the threads smartly on either the A7 cores or the A15 cores. This achieves much lower latency in terms of switching workloads, or better said, switching the environments (CPUs) to the respective work-loads, and exposes the full processing capabilities of the silicon as all cores can be used at once. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 9:48 AM 1
Posts: 2155; Member since: Oct 29, 2012
And there you have it. The community won't abandon the most popular phone of the year, however I see problems cause of the insane number of new technologies introduced. Can you imagine the side IR sensor, front IR sensor (for gesture recognition), thermometer, barometer, hygrometer, Floating Touch and all the stuff packed into having to get to work with every release?
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 4:27 AM 2
Posts: 922; Member since: Oct 18, 2011
All the better reason to stick with Touch Wiz based ROMs. Why not? It's a GOOD overlay. Having been someone who has ALWAYS gone after stock Android, I'm surprised to find myself very much enjoying TW. There are a few dumb things, but over all it's great. I want an IR blaster! :P
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 11:36 AM 1
Posts: 332; Member since: Mar 20, 2013
I used CM and big big thanks to them to make some of my older devices to run super smooth.... Feauture wyse S4 amazed me, and i believe they would not be able to bring up all of those features to run (if it is SAMSUNGs fault for not releasing sources of EXYNOS or what ever...) It is good they decided not to go, a lot of new hardware in S4, lot of bugs and work for them...I believe with the hardware specs of S4, there will be no need for CM anymore, just root, remove some small amount bloatware and keep the phone full functional with original S4 firmware - i do not want S4 that can not do MHL, WiFi direct, NFC...as some of the CM roms were not able to do.
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 4:28 AM 4
Posts: 61; Member since: Dec 18, 2012
Buy beer for the developers. Enough said.
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 4:39 AM 1
Posts: 2156; Member since: Oct 17, 2011
This is not a loss at all. Cyanogen is popular, but mostly because of the legacy of being the first third party ROM. Now it's far from the best out there. For Samsung, there's always the Omega ROM ;)
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 5:15 AM 3
Yeah but Omega is based on Samsung firmwares while CM is based on AOSP. Many people prefer the AOSP for the holo interface even if it lacks tons of feature available only on Samsung firmwares. I do care about the holo interface myself, that's the main reason I'm using Remix Resurrection Pitch Black but Westcrip has abandoned this Rom. I'm considering Omega with Simplistic Framework.
posted on Mar 20, 2013, 9:59 AM 1
Send a warning to post author
Send a warning to Selected user.
The user has 0 warnings currently.
Next warning will result in ban!
Ban user and delete all posts
Message to PhoneArena moderator (optional):