Can the more open nature of iOS 8 bring the Android marginals into the Apple fold?

Can the more open nature of iOS 8 bring the Android marginals into the Apple fold?
With Apple's iOS 8 announcement now out of the way, we're slowly edging towards a place where the analytic parts of our brains start mercilessly weighing things, measuring. As with most major iOS updates, iOS 8 introduces a plethora of changes -- most small, but also a few that are pretty major. Indeed, and much unlike Apple, certain changes go against its typical, closed-garden-style approach.

What do we mean? Simply put, Apple is opening up in a number of areas and though that's quite irregular for Apple, it's every bit the exciting news a fair number of people have been waiting to hear word of. Us included. For example, Apple's so-called Extensibility program means iOS 8 will allow apps to communicate with and rely on each other's functionality in a far more open manner than ever before -- the share button will now have a more extensive list of apps to go to, and you'll be able to use, say, VSCO Cam filters right through the default iOS camera app. 

Apple didn't stop there. Despite announcing some rather interesting changes to its default keyboard, the Cupertino folks announced that iOS 8 will also allow third-party developers to get in on the fun, and offer their own takes on the format through the iTunes store. Further still, the embedded TouchID fingerprint scanner will now be open (to a certain degree) to apps other than the default stack that comes with iOS, allowing for more flexibility than ever before. Both of these are changes that, just a day ago, we would've thought quite unlikely.

All told, there's no denying that with iOS 8 Apple is getting closer to a very defining Android trait -- openness. Therefore, it's not unfeasible to speculate that quite a few Android marginals may have just gotten a very enticing reason to give the still comparatively closed iOS a chance. Do you agree?

Can the more open nature of iOS 8 bring the Android marginals into the Apple fold?

For sure - iOS 8 is a nail in Android's coffin for me
It's very possible, though it's unclear at this point
I'm definitely intrigued by this new approach, but I'm staying with Android for now
Absolutely not. Despite these changes, iOS is still a long way from Android and what I'm looking for



1. amiaq

Posts: 509; Member since: Jun 30, 2012

If Google has "Project Butter", with iOS 8 Apple should call it "Project Ketchup", get it? "Ketchup", "catch up"?

2. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

Lmfao +1 That was epic "Project catchup, iOs8"

5. PhoneArenaUser

Posts: 5498; Member since: Aug 05, 2011

Thank you Apple for WWDC 2014! Each time when I watch WWDC it always makes me proud... ...PROUD THAT I'M ANDROID USER! :D

7. PhoneArenaUser

Posts: 5498; Member since: Aug 05, 2011

P.S. After watching WWDC I'm impatiently waiting for a video from Armando Ferreira! :D

42. kabhijeet.16

Posts: 889; Member since: Dec 05, 2012

Same here...

6. ArtSim98

Posts: 3535; Member since: Dec 21, 2012


29. akki20892

Posts: 3902; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

Android is way ahead, can't beat....its a giant lion the king of mobile os.

34. CX3NT3_713

Posts: 2350; Member since: Apr 18, 2011

Lol comment of the year !!

40. Ohrules

Posts: 327; Member since: Jun 11, 2012

i wish PA had a way to fav comments

41. dexter_jdr

Posts: 1163; Member since: Jun 28, 2012

so does that mean project butter is actually project butthurt?

43. kabhijeet.16

Posts: 889; Member since: Dec 05, 2012

LOL.. how butthurt are you after reading such a comment, you couldnt contain yourself from writing this comment and abusing others...?

45. dexter_jdr

Posts: 1163; Member since: Jun 28, 2012

well to avoid confusion, i dont own apple devices. im a nokia lumia owner. so this does not hurt me at all

3. wilsong17 unregistered

i have a note 3 why would i switch to apple really lol my next upgrade the note 4

4. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Apple did take some steps in a positive direction, basically so apps can work together better. It still seems that there is still no way to change the default applications. Nor any way to use what in Android parlance is called a "launcher". Nor the ability to use a third party browser that is not based on Safari. There is also the issue of not having a file system or a file browser. I'd like to be able to plug an iPhone into my computer and just copy files, i.e. pictures and videos, not have to use iTunes/iApps for everything.

10. wilsong17 unregistered

no drag and drop still

11. Tom_Gjeka

Posts: 10; Member since: Jun 02, 2014

With all these features on ios 8 battery drain will be a big problem unles the put in a bigger battery on iphone 6

33. Neo_Huang

Posts: 1067; Member since: Dec 06, 2013

Oh, it'll be WAY bigger. A whole 130 mAH bigger!

8. JMartin22

Posts: 2370; Member since: Apr 30, 2013

Even if they did take their software in the right direction, it still has a way to go towards being a more progressive OS, not to mention their hardware offerings for me personally spell bad taste and kind of still turn me away, despite these so-called positive changes. Being stuck with one hardware choice (which I happen to don't like) just doesn't play well with me Lets not forget that Google isn't going to take this laying down. I'm sure they're well aware of iOS and its changes and plan on bringing some major changes of their own down the line to Android.

14. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Some good points. All phone platforms are compromises. Apple is coming from a completely closed environment and getting "more open". It's baby steps for now, but maybe it will develop into something more over time. On the other hand, Google is coming from a nearly completely open environment and making things "more closed". Android is going quickly towards locked down closed phones, as per most of the latest phones from Samsung and LG being locked down completely. Google removes functionality that is good for rooting, but does little or nothing about securing the Android platform against malware. Neither Apple nor Google offers easy root for their OS, yet for a truly open system, this is a requirement. When it comes to app productivity, Google should make some strides. I think what you are saying here is right. Come Google IO, I hope we see some good features for Android users, not just more data gathering BS and anti-user stuff.

26. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

the locked down phones is primarily with AT&T and Verizon - with T Mobile they are still very unlockable - so far...

30. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

True, so far T-Mobile has resisted locking their phones down. Probably wouldn't fit their rebel uncarrier marketing plan too well. I suppose the real point is that Google could make it so phones cannot be locked down by default and make locking them down some sort of customer option that the Department of Defense and others can choose to turn on.

9. Tsepz_GP

Posts: 1175; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

A nail in the coffin for me. I've been using a iPad 4 alongside my GS2, GS3 and GS4, and many of these new features fix my main gripes with iOS almost completely, so if Apple come through in September with a iPhone 6 5.5inch, I think I will jump ship and take a iPhone 6 5.5inch 64GB in a heartbeat. The Galaxy Note 4 better be bloody good, because Apple just killed with iOS 8. :)

12. wilsong17 unregistered

how does the implement of app going to work or how many appp will be incompatible with 5.5 inch

13. Tom_Gjeka

Posts: 10; Member since: Jun 02, 2014

5.5" phablet no stylus thought

15. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Huge move by Apple for sure. I can see this having more of an effect than anything Apple has done to get Android folks into Apple land. That said....choice of hardware is still a huge draw of Android....and why I would go to WP if Android one day disappeared.

25. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

Yup, I came from winmo - APPLE would be a step back for me if Android went away...

16. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

What they did was announced enough that they are back in the headlines for "revolutionary" steps forward as what will be reported by the general press. I see no reason for iOS users to not be excited. Larger devices, more options for fun 3rd party apps, and some things truly unique to Apple. But to cut into Android? Nah, it is still priced out of the stratosphere and will still only offer a couple new models with old iPhone options as the lower end. Android still has the wide selection at dozens of price points. Maybe a slight bump to the iPhone, but Android has zero to worry about.

17. PBXtech

Posts: 1032; Member since: Oct 21, 2013

"Android will never pass up iOS." "Android is dead when Verizon gets the iPhone." "Android is dead when Sprint gets the iPhone." No one mentioned T-Mobile because they were so wrong with their earlier predictions and statements. iOS 8 is NOT a nail in Androids coffin. It's nice for those who had no features the rest of us had years ago, but it isn't going to make a dent in Android.

24. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

I like what post 16 says...but, yeah, Android has a HUGE marketshare and all APPLE did with iOS 8 is ensure that its users will stay put - a few Android users will see the bigger iPhone and try it, though....

39. Cicero

Posts: 1129; Member since: Jan 22, 2014

After some time they will be back.

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