California governor vetoes bill designed to strengthen law against using a cell phone while driving
posted by Alan F. / Sep 07, 2011, 8:27 PM
The bill, approved by the legislature, would have increased the fine for first-time offenders to $50 from the current $20 and two-time offenders would have been hit with a $100 fine. But after various taxes and penalties charged by California cities and counties, the actual fee for a first-time offender would have been a whopping $328 and $528 would have been charged for a second offense based on a study done for the California Senate. It was the amount of the fine that persuaded the governor to veto the bill. "I certainly support discouraging cell phone use while driving a car but not ratcheting up the penalties as prescribed by this bill," said Governor Brown in his veto message. He added that the current fines and penalties schedule should be enough of a deterrent for the average person.
33 states, Washington D.C. and Guam ban texting while driving according to the Governors Highway Safety Association. 30 states, including California, ban cell phone use under all conditions, for those drivers under 18 years old.
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that wouldnt of happened if the govanator still ran it...........just sayin
posted on Sep 07, 2011, 9:15 PM 1
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haha and maybe if meg whitman ran it we wudnt be in such a debt crisis..
posted on Sep 07, 2011, 10:51 PM 0
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Hmm, here in sweden we are allowed to talk in the phone when you drive WITHOUT handsfree. Of course texting is allowed too, but that is a little to dangerous according to me, so i won't do that (unless you're in the city and driving at 5 mph) Boy, everything is better here in sweden ; )
posted on Sep 08, 2011, 2:49 AM 1
These types of bills ARE NOT ABOUT PROTECTING THE PUBLIC!!!!!!! They are however about increasing sources of revenue, especially for CASH STRAPPED STATES like the Communist State of California! Freedom and Liberty come at a cost. When government is making everything "Illegal" and charging fines... well, that ain't about safety, it's about revenue... plain and simple. And, reduces liberty and gives "Authority" the excuse to financially abuse you. I'LL SAY THIS ONCE - - - IF THERE WAS NO MONEY IN VIOLATING THE RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS AND THERE WAS SERIOUS RECOURSE FOR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO DID, THERE WOULD BE NO VIOLATION'S LIKE THESE CELL PHONE BILLS CHARGING YOU MONEY WHEN YOU USE A CELL PHONE IN A CAR, ON A BIKE OR WHATEVER. JUST BECAUSE SOME POLITICIANS GET TOGETHER IN A PLACE CALLED A LEGISLATURE AND 51% OR MORE SAY YEA TO A PIECE OF PAPER WITH SCRIBBLES ON IT CALLED A "LAW" DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT! Scumbag politicians are ALWAYS looking for a way to steal from you... ALWAYS. Your financial freedom is ALWAYS the main target of attack by government. It's just that simple. Giving the government more ways to "STEAL" from you is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE! Politicians ARE financial vultures!! They know the citizens won't do jack s$%t about the bulls*$t laws they pass. Everyone JUST ACCEPTS IT! It's nice to see the governor veto the bill, but he should have vetoed it with the comment that government partaking in all this fine based legislation is nothing more than financial abuse upon the citizenry. Sure, the governments of such acts use the Sad stories of people who've been hurt or killed by such behavior, but they ONLY use those stories to convince the STUPID population that the government should be able to take your money when they see you doing such a thing. Liberty is worth fighting for, even from CORRUPT government agents and bureaucratic losers who insist on forcing their "Financial Abuse Bills and Laws" on the public. Put an end to the financial robbing, raping and pillaging of the citizenry, and this country would be on the right track again. But, then again, that's why politicians become politicians in MANY instances, to Financially RAPE U! It's always about the money.... Ron Paul 2012!! The only real candidate who actually says what he means and means what he says. Love him or hate him, you know exactly where he stands. And Liberty is his platform!!! Funny how many of the "OTHER" candidates are parroting what Ron Paul has been saying for 40 years now!
posted on Sep 08, 2011, 8:57 AM 0
here are some more thoughts on this topic... Government Spends Spends Spends... then when it spends WAYYYY TOOOOO Much it fines, fines, taxes, borrows, borrows, borrows, borrows, taxes, taxes, taxes then fines some more for good measure and comes up with new ways to keep increasing the amount of fines and types of fines it can hand out. Then government enforces those fines with government agents with badges and guns! Hows that for civil. then it finds ways to charge fees on top of fees on top of fees that we need to "comply" with certain things, like a fishing license, motor vehicle non sense and so on. This isn't about passing laws that better the society, this is again, about the financial raping and pillaging of the citizens because these folks who get "elected" can't control themselves when spending other peoples money. All that's going to happen is government will Steal more money from citizens to pay more and more debts and increase more and more spending. This is chaotic. Government is NOT some magical entity than can forever defy the laws of finances. All the borrowing and spending WILL have to come to an end. You can't borrow yourself into prosperity or spend yourself into financial bliss. All of this debt must come full circle at some point. But, here's where it gets nasty, CITIZENS promote this nonsense through the acceptance of things like "Social Security", Medicare and Medicaid, FEMA insurance, FDIC insurance... So, the little guys gets a crumb to shut him up from all the raping and pillaging that goes on while the BIG PLAYERS get the lions share of the stolen booty. Just look at the Wall Street and Banking bailouts. Certainly average Joe citizen didn't benefit from more and more and more and more DEBT placed upon him!!!!!! Can u imagine somebody spending $10 MILLION DOLLARS on a credit card and then hands YOU the bill stating that you ARE responsible to pay it back... Yeah right... that's just a bunch of bull!!!
posted on Sep 08, 2011, 9:36 AM 0
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I drive a motorcycle, I can see into your cars when you are next to me, don't tell me that talking while driving isn't dangerous. Talking while driving is dangerous hands free or not but without hands free the distraction level increses 10 fold.
posted on Sep 08, 2011, 12:06 PM 0
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