Beating Intel and TSMC, Samsung outs 10nm cache memory for future mobile chipsets

Samsung is on track to produce 10nm chipsets faster than anyone else, it seems, including its direct TSMC foundry competition, or the juggernaut Intel. The company announced the development of a 10nm 128 Mb processor cache S-RAM memory, indicating that the rumored 10nm mobile SoC from Samsung shouldn't be far behind. The advantages of the new production process are numerous - compared to the current 14nm process, the cell footprint is reduced with close to 40%, paving the way for even smaller chips with the same performance, and a lower power draw. 

Since Intel postponed its 10nm nodes for 2017, Samsung has seemingly already won the race with TSMC to out the first 10nm FinFET production lines next year, and have a retail device on 10nm chipsets by early 2017, just in time for an eventual Galaxy S8. In the meantime, the Galaxy S7 will likely run on a next-gen 14nm process that further improves power draw and performance, compared to the early generation that is in the Galaxy S6 or the iPhone 6s.

source: ETNews via G4Games



38. ultimatewarrior

Posts: 16; Member since: Feb 19, 2014

Thanks for the replies lads. So would it mean that just for quick example. Arm design a cpu and pay Samsung to make it, then Samsung pays Arm to use the cpu in their own SoCs?

33. chenski

Posts: 801; Member since: Mar 22, 2015

I can see samsung designing soc for other oems

23. ultimatewarrior

Posts: 16; Member since: Feb 19, 2014

Novice question here. I dont understand that if Samsung are ahead of other guys like TMSC and Intel. Why does everyone use ARM chips in their SoCs. I really dont get how the whole chip thing works.

26. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

ARM designs CPU and GPU cores, more like design of parts of SOC, companies like Samsung, Qualcomm uses these designs to design SOC or companies like apple uses them for reference, companies like TSMC and Samsung fabricates/manufactures them. With intel it's a different story as they do all of these things with almost everything different.

27. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Think of it this way. The blueprint for a V-8 is a V with certain spacing. This is a design. However, I can be the best designer in the world, but I need someone to fabricate it. As a result I need someone else to build it, using either amazing materials or a factory that can get within tolerance levels no one else can. Same here. ARM is a design reference. A design of where things should go, how things should go from in/out and how to handle it inbetween, right down to the embedded code. But that doesn't mean they own the fabrication, nor know the materials and science behind it all. Hence Samsung, TMC, Intel, AMD, they all fabricate designs, some do both, like Samsung (though they still use arm reference).

31. guest

Posts: 372; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

Intel is number one followed by TSM/Samsung followed by GloFo. There are other smaller players but those are the big ones. Don't get caught up in the numbers game. The ARM fabs renamed their nodes so they wouldn't appear to be so far behind Intel but if you look at the underlying tech there is no doubt Intel is the leader info process node. For example the 14/16nm Samsung/TSM finally launched this year is equivalent to intel 22nm which has been out for four years. By the time the fabless guys launch Intel will have been on 14nm for a couple of years and on the verge of true 10nm.

32. guest

Posts: 372; Member since: Jun 13, 2012 Here's a great chart to translate the process nodes of ARM fabs vs Intel.

22. RuneMaster

Posts: 75; Member since: May 31, 2015

Go samsung go. you still have more ways to go.

16. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

Sammy 2 TSMC 1

12. Kumar123 unregistered

Is this even a real 10nm? I read that Samsung's 14nm is not even real 14nm. So may be this is also the same. Rather than a true 10nm its a hybrid between 20nm and 10nm.

15. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

Most likely 10/14nm.

17. nadavcool543

Posts: 27; Member since: Dec 12, 2013

Can you shut up already? we already know you don't like Samsung.

21. Kumar123 unregistered

Don't give a $hit about what you like or want. Its a tech site and I will say whatever I want to say. If you don't like it don't reply or get out of here.

24. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

If you did not like his reply why did you reply or did not got out of here??

34. greyarea

Posts: 267; Member since: Aug 14, 2015

Maybe it's because you're esl, but there's a difference between someone commenting on the story in the first place, and someone telling another person not to make that orginal comment. Returning a comment on a thread you started is not the same as replying to someone elses original comment. Notice "if you don't like it, don't REPLY" notice the difference now?

20. guest

Posts: 372; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

It isn't. Its equivalent to intel 14nm

29. engineer-1701d unregistered

is kumar really your name? or do you really like white Castle see how we feel when you said stupid things

9. vuyonc

Posts: 1094; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

This will probably go to ARM server chips or maybe it'll trickle down to GloFo for computing customers. This must be a risk sample. Also, it's unlikely they've 'beaten' Intel when Intel may use both 10nm FEOL and BEOL while Samsung might use 14nm BEOL to save time. Cache size is MONSTROUS tho.

7. Supersonic

Posts: 226; Member since: May 15, 2015

Others can follow

5. JMartin22

Posts: 2429; Member since: Apr 30, 2013

Samsung will always be the Android platform standard, no matter how many random spec sheet cheap Chinese handsets are produced.

8. greyarea

Posts: 267; Member since: Aug 14, 2015

You make it sound like they've always been the platform standard and not just recently. They have done very well, as they should considering they have resources out the butt for R&D. They're also almost fully vertically integrated, not many companies have all that going for them.

25. Hexa-core

Posts: 2131; Member since: Aug 11, 2015

Agreed! Sammy + Android = Technology. Nothing else matters!!

4. Ordinary

Posts: 2454; Member since: Apr 23, 2015

Now watch TSMC sue Samsung, lol.

6. hanabi

Posts: 177; Member since: Oct 08, 2015

No you watch your chinese tsmc go down

11. vincelongman

Posts: 5843; Member since: Feb 10, 2013


40. Plutonium239

Posts: 1265; Member since: Mar 17, 2015

The majority of the world, with a few exceptions(Such as the United States, which has deployed its navy to protect Taiwan from China), recognize Taiwan as the property of China.

28. engineer-1701d unregistered

that will be apples job they thought of it first they will sue

37. cheetah2k

Posts: 2354; Member since: Jan 16, 2011


3. TyrionLannister unregistered

Whoa, that's 16 MB of SRAM. What kind of personal desktop uses that huge amount of cache.

10. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

xeons and servers

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