Are U.S. carriers selling your personal information to third party authentication firms?

Are U.S. carriers selling your personal information to third party authentication firms?
Had this demo web address not been disabled due to publicity, you could have opened and been prompted to type in your zip code. Click on "begin," and you would have seen on the screen your name, home address, mobile phone number and the latitude and longitude related to your current location. A second demo, which didn't require you to reveal your zip code, has also been disabled. That address is

Had these sites not been disabled, they would have taken the IP address from your handset to find all of the information we cited in the above paragraph. The first site belongs to Danal, a company that calls itself  "the premier global provider of mobile identity and authentication solutions." The second site belongs to Payfone, another firm providing authentication services. And if you want to know where these companies are getting your personal information from, your mobile carrier is the one feeding it to them.

When enabled, the demos work only if the IP address of the person requesting the information matches the IP address being looked up. In other words, the demo will provide information only if a person is looking himself up from his own phone. But the API will allow paying customers of the company to look up information simply by stating that the user has given his consent. This means that those who pay Payfone have access to your personal information. And considering that Danal is also in business to make money, they also will provide its paying customers with your data.

And again, this information is provided to these companies by certain U.S. wireless operators who are selling it to these third party authentication firms. And these companies are turning around and selling it to anyone with the cash to subscribe to their services.

Since the demo sites aren't working, you can't determine if your carrier is throwing you under a bus. We will try to get in touch with the four major U.S. carriers to get their side of the story. Stay tuned.

source: Medium via TechCrunch



1. buccob

Posts: 2981; Member since: Jun 19, 2012

In my opinion we all should expect that: A. Carriers are selling our information B. OS makers are spying on our habits C. Hardware makers are spying on us, and gathering our info, plus our biometrics D. Social Networks log and sell our personal data E. Government agencies have access to all of the previous information Citing Bobby McFerrin... "don't worry, be happy"

2. jojon

Posts: 437; Member since: Feb 11, 2014

..when gov's talk about or refer to metadata, the above is what they are talking about!

3. sunnyfpy

Posts: 297; Member since: May 12, 2013

Their is no such thing as 100%confidental

4. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

So why the hate for OnePlus? OnePlus wasn't the first, and they certainly won't be the last.

5. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

The hate and backlash for OnePlus is the same treatment many other companies had when they were outed for privacy invasion.

8. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

Many of them are doing that was we speak.

10. bucknassty

Posts: 1395; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

arent they chinese??? there is your answer, and no i'm not being racist. it is what it is

6. you_sukk_it

Posts: 219; Member since: Apr 11, 2017

I think people want to feel at least that the mfr isnt spying on them. oneplus was caught.non of the others were caught red handed.

7. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

But we know all of them are doing it one way or the other. We're sitting here and complaining only when it comes to light. It's like a dog, waiting to bark on someone when (s)he shows up walking from behind a wall...he knows someone is there, he just needs to see someone.

9. jacky899

Posts: 434; Member since: May 16, 2017

Samsung and LG tvs used to capture living room conversations and all kinds of other data possible without the users approval and sends them to their own server and third party servers. It was so bad the FTC had to step in. However you will not see this kind of backlash against these two companies because there is a huge amount of Korean nationalists that frequent these websites and only post things to make Apple and other competitors look bad. If you frequent this site long enough you will see the amount of anti Apple and anti non Korean company sentiments in the comment sections.

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