AT&T is requiring $20 in data during purchase for a "quick messaging" phone

AT&T is requiring $20 in data during purchase for a
There was a bit of trickling reports about AT&T going forward with certain phones requiring messaging/data plans yesterday. The latest tidbit of news confirms what was expected to come – handsets classified as Quick Messaging/Touch will need a $20 data requirement when being purchased in stores. So the affected current offerings on AT&T’s lineup are the Pantech Reveal, Pantech Impact, Motorola Karma, Samsung Flight, Samsung Impression, Samsung Magnet, Samsung Solstice, Samsung Mythic, Samsung Propel, LG Xenon, LG Neon, and the LG Vu. You can mix and match data features that total a minimum of $20 – such as getting a $5/month 200 text messaging plan and a $15/month unlimited data plan; both adding up to the $20 minimum requirement. AT&T sales reps won’t let you out the door with the subsidized price unless you have those minimum requirements on your contract at the time of purchase. As for family plans, it looks like the minimum data requirement will be $30. Call yourself lucky if you managed to purchase a phone in the last few weeks without having to go with the new policy. Aside from those “quick messaging” or touch devices, other “feature phones” (probably just your basic flip handset at this point) are not affected by this new implementation.  So if you’re eyeing that nice QWERTY handset, even if you don’t plan on texting ever, just be prepared to meet those stipulations in order to purchase it.

source: BGR



1. donjonson410

Posts: 32; Member since: Jan 11, 2010

Just keep the checks spread wide and lube on standby ATT and Verizon customers

6. JackFace

Posts: 190; Member since: Nov 03, 2009


2. YouLostTheGame

Posts: 441; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

C'mon, where's all the people that hated on VZW for requiring a "data plan" with some of their more "feature rich enabled" phones?

19. JeffdaBeat unregistered

I mean, I'm not one of the Verizon haters, but this bothers me. There is a big lack of choice going around. I get making data mandatory on smartphones. I can't tell you how many times people come in and complain about how much their bill is and how we should forgive the last four months that they used data. But seriously, the quick messaging phone...there are people who text and want a keyboard, but don't need unlimited text or any data at all. There just doesn't seem to be a lot of choice in the matter. It used to be that you just wouldn't get your rebate back and most customers would settle with that. But now, there is no choice. What's sad is most companies will follow suit. So the whole, "If you don't like it, go somewhere else" can't be applied here because there is almost no where else to go. I swear, wait till they start doing this with the internet...

3. Mateo8326

Posts: 472; Member since: Jul 15, 2009

It makes perfect sense hell if you buy a car you gotta have car insurance, you get a computer you need a internet connection some how, so it if you get a data phone with messaging you gotta get the plan. For those who work in the celluar business you know its the smartest way to go anyways unless you want that triple digit $ amount pay per use for data and messaging on top of you bill.

4. theman10

Posts: 93; Member since: May 16, 2009

Bad anaolgy, you don't HAVE to have internet on your computer.

13. SamTime

Posts: 253; Member since: Nov 07, 2009

Everything you say on this site is stupid, Mateo. You just need to shut up. Do you know why insurance is required for cars? Because they have the potential to kill and deal some serious damage! Whatever crap phone you have doesn't have that kind of potential. Forcing customers to get these features is solely a means to generate revenue. It is what it is. Don't try to defend them, don't try to justify this move. I understand you're the biggest AT&T fanboy on this site but seriously you gotta be able to read between the lines. The same goes for Verizon. It's a move to generate more revenue. It's absolutely ridiculous too. I'm glad the FCC is querying all the major carriers. As far as I'm concerned, Verizon's and AT&T's new policies are absurd, unnecessary, and do a disservice to good, loyal, hardworking customers.

21. buccnrs24

Posts: 2; Member since: Jan 29, 2010

Ok i agree with the you on the bad analogy and yes Verizon and at&t are making money buy doing this but as far a the FCC goes they shouldn't get involved. This is America if thats what verizon and at&t want to charge so be it go activate with cricket or something. We cant have the government controlling everything this isn’t communist Russia

24. nosense

Posts: 53; Member since: Jul 19, 2009

This change by both att and vzw isnt really about them needing the service on certain phones its about the 2 companies trying to find ways to make more money from customers since they have lowered unlimited talking to 70 (Just for talking). So they have to find a way to raise that so that customer do not take advantage and just gut the 70 plan by itself with no add ons. Hence that is why sprint still has the overall best value in wireless.

25. Mobile21

Posts: 5; Member since: Jan 29, 2010

I agree with theman10 and SamTime. A better analogy would be just because the car I want has OnStar or XM doesn't mean I should have to use these services. They are great features but shouldn't be required because the car I want has it built in.

26. fairisfair

Posts: 10; Member since: Aug 31, 2009

Listen, as a company it is well within their rights to mandate requirements as it pertains to devices. As customers, you can choose to leave them. But if they are going to have keyboard phones made for them by a manufacturer, then they are going to want text/data plans to go along with these devices. This day has been coming for a long time, and if you don't think that sprint and t-mobile will follow soon, then you are kidding yourself. FCC can look all they want into ETF's, this req'd feature is a whole different story. There is a new day coming with wireless services, and all these technological advances will come with some sort of price tag. If you want it, then pay. If you won't pay, then you don't get. You can always choose a local provider like metro PCS with no contract.

28. chack_fu

Posts: 46; Member since: Jan 19, 2009


31. vzwtechbill

Posts: 175; Member since: Mar 16, 2009

Thank you fairisfair. I personally wouldn't mind providing the option of blocking those services vs. requiring the plans, either way it makes my position taking calls from idiots easier. No more $3000 bills cause Junior played with the internet on his phone and mommy didn't understand, or cause Susie sent 20,000 text messages to her girlfriends and now Daddy wants the charges taken off cause he didn't know. I would like to (and hopefully soon!) see 'pay-as-you-go' be eliminated from all post-paid plans. If you want to pay as you go, get prepaid. Then, when your kids phone works for 15 min before they use all the money up, it's not a catastrophic loss.

5. cansler

Posts: 136; Member since: Oct 07, 2009

This is absolutely absurd. Not everyone is a texting, data using geek. My wife likes the cool phones but does not use any data ever. Has no interest in it. She could get away with a $5 text plan as we swap messages now and again, but to force her to buy a data plan, I think we might be going elsewhere, even though I work for the blue DeathStar. I can almost hear the Emperial Death March in the background.

7. JackFace

Posts: 190; Member since: Nov 03, 2009

Purchase a phone at the full retail price... simple. This also avoids Contracts. Here's the thing: I think we are surely headed to Contract Free Service (As far as the Big Four- I know there are smaller companies that already do this) With the FCC being ridiculous and inquiring about ETFs, I think the Big Four should flip the Bird to the FCC, end Contracts, End ETFs and not Subsidize Phones anymore. You want to see people complain and flip out?? Wait till this happens. Honestly, if you don't want all the extras (Data/Text Features), yet you want the cool phone, purchase it outright.

9. theGodpapa

Posts: 181; Member since: Dec 15, 2009

you can buy it full retail, but when they activate it, or you acticate it, it is going to trigger that feature. No way around this one

11. JackFace

Posts: 190; Member since: Nov 03, 2009

Easy way around. AT&T has something called "SIM" cards. You purchase a phone online or even in a store and pay full retail. You go home, pull your SIM card out of your old phone and put it into your new phone. If there is a will, there is a way. Stop trying to prove something out of nothing.

14. SamTime

Posts: 253; Member since: Nov 07, 2009

Wow JackFace you are right there on the idiot meter with Mateo. Carriers subsidize phones. They recoup those losses with ETFs and tying customers into contracts (i.e. they entice you or give you an incentive to get into these long contracts). They shouldn't try to further "recoup" that subsidy by forcing customers into these extra features they may not need or use. At some point, the amount paid in extra features I don't use surpasses the subsidy. Should carriers cancel those extra features at that point? Carriers don't ever give u the option of buying a phone at full price to avoid purchasing these extra features. What's your answer for Verizon customers, JackFace? They can't pull out their SIM cards...THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE ONE TO PULL OUT!

15. JackFace

Posts: 190; Member since: Nov 03, 2009

Sam... Really. I have said nothing about "recouping" anything. Try reading and UNDERSTANDING (I know that was a big word for you) what I wrote next time before you pop off like an Ignorant Ass. Carrier DO give you the option, just try asking sometime. My answer for Verizon Customers: Go to a GSM Carrier (Until LTE is Fully Deployed) Thanks for making yourself look like a fool.

22. buccnrs24

Posts: 2; Member since: Jan 29, 2010

Bangarang JackFace

27. fairisfair

Posts: 10; Member since: Aug 31, 2009

With or without contracts, certain phones will require certain MANDATORY features. And if the cool phone you want requires one of these features, then either pay it, or choose another phone. No more crazy analogies. These companies are in business to turn a profit, otherwise they would be out of business, and then it would not matter what phone you have with them. Full retail, no contract, it will not matter. Phones will fall into groups that will have certain feature/pricing requirements, and that is all that there is to it.

8. theGodpapa

Posts: 181; Member since: Dec 15, 2009

Loving how Copy Cat wireless is trying this on for size as well !!! Where are all those VZW haters proclaiming how money hungry they are now?

10. JackFace

Posts: 190; Member since: Nov 03, 2009

Yeah, VZW is still Money Hungry- No denying that

17. JocularJester

Posts: 40; Member since: Oct 28, 2009

are you saying that ATT, and the other three major carriers are not money hungry as well?

18. JackFace

Posts: 190; Member since: Nov 03, 2009

No. Not at all. Of Course they are Money Hungry too. Hence, I used the phrase "still Money Hungry".

12. LAFN

Posts: 61; Member since: Jul 19, 2009

The article says: "requirement when being purchased in stores" Maybe you can still buy phones without the extra messaging/data if you buy it online?

16. JocularJester

Posts: 40; Member since: Oct 28, 2009

unfortunately not so. if you do go online to the att site, and read the small print under most of the phones it says "requires a minimum $20 ($30 for smartphones) messaging and/or data service. 2 year contract & new activation required". this has been on the site for about a week now, before the article by PA was written.

20. Cali_E

Posts: 196; Member since: Sep 24, 2008

all i have to say is with vzw...$10

23. Cali_E

Posts: 196; Member since: Sep 24, 2008

it really cracks me up that after all the crap talking about verizon this happens. in your face

29. michael95gt

Posts: 45; Member since: Jul 19, 2009

I dont really understand all the whining. Why would anyone specifically get a QWERTY/MESSAGING/INTERNET phone and NOT use the features. AT&T is actually saving you money, cause at PPU prices you would burn through $20.00 with just 100 txts or 66 mms.

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