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iPhone 5 coming without LTE support?

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iPhone 5 coming without LTE support?

The upcoming iPad 2 event on March 2nd might spill the beans about the white iPhone, but what most people are looking forward to now is the next iPhone. The launch of the iPhone 5 is expected in the summer months, but details emerged that it will skip on the LTE radios. The information is courtesy of Telecom Pragmatics analyst Samuel Greenholtz who cited a source close to the matter, but the summer months are still way ahead and things could change, so take this with a grain of salt.


"The next iPhone -- the iPhone 6 -- is an LTE version under development now with production aimed for a June/July launch next year," added Greenholtz. Nevertheless, the handset is expected to technically support AT&T's self-proclaimed as 4G HSPA+ network. The iPhone 5 was also rumored to be a world phone functioning on European markets as well as on U.S. carriers like AT&T and Verizon.


If Apple go without LTE on the next-gen iPhone, then the phone's main selling points will be the rumored 4-inch screen, dual-core processor and Sony's latest camera sensor. Not bad at all if it all comes true, but could it be that Android has upped the smartphone game with upcoming LTE handsets so much that Apple is now playing catch up?


source: The Street


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posted on 24 Feb 2011, 09:19 4

1. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


If this is true I will LOL.

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 20:48 1

65. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


you're an idiot.

with rumors pointing to condensed battery cells and cloud memory services, apple is highly motivated to make slimmer, less expensive devices. adding 4g would nullify this.

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 09:28 6

2. Allday28 (Posts: 283; Member since: 19 Nov 2010)


I dont think phone manufacturers should be to worried about 4G until next year when its more available.

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 11:33 9

14. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)


Couldn't agree more. AT&T is currently selling 4G phones when their 4G network hasn't even launched. Verizon has LTE up for modems, but not phones. Everyone wants to rush into 4G without having the network or equipment to back it. So why put in an LTE radio when it won't be widely available for most people in the US? Those phones are going to cost more for no reason.

I'm looking forward to 4G for higher quality music and video streaming...but other than that, I'd rather not pay an extra $100 for a service that may or may not be where my phone is...

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 11:54 6

16. DJLegacy2k5 (Posts: 212; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


How about so when the companies LAUNCH 4g the customer will already be ready and not have to buy 3 new versions of a shit ass phone every year? How about preparing the customer for new tech since they KNOW its coming instead of making the customers wait another model and asking them to blow another $199 or more on 2 more versions. Apple needs to work on their Antennas, durability and boring ass OS before 4G neways so you are semi-correct.

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 13:16 5

23. msa1988 (Posts: 418; Member since: 30 Mar 2010)


Agreed. They come out with a new version every 6 months. Why don't they just come out with a new version every 18 months or so and make the differences between the 2 phones actually worthwile...

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 13:41

28. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


theyve come out with one iphone per year, which they will continue to do.

if you consider that you can normally sell an iphone for as much, if not more than what you bought it for a year after launch, cost is not an issue.

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 15:09 2

40. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)


Has Sprint and WiMAX taught us anything?

It kills me that we are all tech nerds and yet we all buy into this whole crap of 4G right off the gate. Folks fall for marketing terms like Jesus is coming back tomorrow, when you know it's BS.

Sure, let me go and buy into 4G even though it isn't here just yet. At least I'll be prepared. I'm sure folks felt like that when Sprint announced and launched WiMAX and now they are talking about switching to LTE... What happens to all those EVO owners? They call early adapters stupid, but I think it's stupid for manufacturers to be early adapters as well...

Who's to say AT&T will actually go to LTE? What if they like HSPA+ so much that they decide to take the T-Mobile route and just increase the upload and download speed? I mean, that's what we are all here for...not the G's, speed. So Apple releases an iPhone with LTE, HSPA+ blah blah blah...but it none of these are widely supported. Companies have committed to them, but we don't have nationwide coverage of it at all.

I would rather Apple put money into features of the phone itself than what network the phone can hook up to...just in case something goes wrong or carriers decide to change their minds...which they do all the time. Let these 4G networks expand before you start planning for a future that isn't written in stone just yet.

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 15:14 1

41. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)


Oh...and let's not forget it isn't just carriers. Remember when the governing body over all the G's in the world said that in order to be considered 4G, you have to have a download speed of 100mbps? They changed their minds on that one too...which is the only reason LTE, WiMAX, and HSPA+ can be considered 4G in the first place.

Right now, I'd rather play it safe with a phone because these companies will do anything to get you give them money...period. Even Apple. The only difference is, Apple's limited release of products (not every few months with multiple handsets) means they CANNOT fuck it up...because for the next year, Apple will have to live with that fuck up. iPhone 4...yes...but that problem was small compared to some handsets that are out today... If Samsung fucks it up, they'll have a better phone out within 3 to 6 months.

Play it safe...Apple has to live with a phone for a year. You, however, have two years until your upgrade rolls around and if you want to risk it on 4G that really isn't that fast in the first place...be my guest...

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 15:31 7

42. DJLegacy2k5 (Posts: 212; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Not being able to make a call or hold signal is a "SMALL" issue for a cell phone? Apple even fucked up the iPhone, which is THEIR OWN os! Their hardware is the horrible, I litterally get 4 to 5 broke iPhones into my store PER DAY! Their opperating system is SO basic, how can they fuck it up? Oh wait, their previous updates HAVE screwed up older versions! You people just like being able to say you own an iPhone because that is what marketing and shallowness teach you to do. The iPhone is garbage and the people that use them are nothing more than Trendy f***s. Bottom Line...

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 15:32 7

43. DJLegacy2k5 (Posts: 212; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


So instead of working on nice features for the next phone, APPLE is just at work figuring how to market something worthless like "face time" so all the idiots eat it up. *smh* Pathetic...

posted on 25 Feb 2011, 08:31

81. T DAWGv12 (Posts: 13; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)


Couldn't have said it better myself!

posted on 27 Feb 2011, 03:19

94. MrMiddl (unregistered)


totally agree. i loved the first Iphone, because there was nothing else like it, but now there is soo much better to choose from. why go through the headache of crappy software (IOS4, Itunes), and hardware (Bad design on IP4)

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 17:42

48. phone333 (Posts: 331; Member since: 04 Feb 2009)


4G/Wimax aside. The EVO is still Sprint's best Android phone. Not to mention that you're not paying anything more for a 4G device compared to any other Sprint smartphone.

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 17:52 3

50. DJLegacy2k5 (Posts: 212; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Actually up until the new price INCREASE you were paying $10 extra a month for 4G whether you get 4G in your area or not. I would know Me and my GF have EPICs and my DAD has the EVO. But I also get a big discount for being a manager for them for years. I did however just get the Moto Atrix which makes the iPhone look even worse than it already does...to anyone with common sense and taste that is.

AT&T is selling the HTC INSPIRE 4g (aka EVO) for only $99 right now though, so that DEAL is INSANE!

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 18:46 1

56. EraserXIV (Posts: 38; Member since: 16 Jul 2009)


The difference is that Verizon will have a much larger coverage with LTE than Sprint has or will ever have with WiMax. Verizon already has 30 big city markets live and will continue to expand at a rapid pace through the end of this year. LTE is here to stay, most companies have committed to it and there's no way in hell they will just change their minds overnight. Companies have put a lot of research and money into the preliminary stages of LTE that it's not feasible for them to change course. Having to wait until June/July 2012 for LTE is going to be torture knowing that a lot of the country will be covered by the end of this year, and there will be tons of LTE phones at that time too.

posted on 26 Feb 2011, 07:41

90. edb (unregistered)


Can I get a witness?

Really, now... I live in Alabama. Yes, Alabama. Your mind has already conjured up images of inbred, toothless hicks and banjo music.

And I will have LTE coverage THIS SUMMER.

Sprint can claim to have 4G all they want. All I know is, they don't have it here, and they won't for a long time, if ever. Verizon will in a few months. I will miss my OG Droid when I upgrade, but I will be loving 5-12MBps downloads on whatever device I end up with. (Thunderbolt? Nah, not an HTC fan. Bionic? Possibly. I'd really like them to come out with a qwerty slider like the Droid/Droid2 before it's time to decide...)

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 19:29 1

62. joe678 (unregistered)


what did you think wimax was gonna teach you..you MUST be in a 4G area for it to function..and sprints 4g speeds r the worst to date..congrats!

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 23:45

71. DV (unregistered)


With consideration to WiMax, I would have to say you are accurate. Anyone who was so poorly advised to poor their money into a dying company loosing money hand over fist made a huge mistake in signing any agreement with Sprint. Sprint ran with the cheapest form of a newer data infastructure because they wanted the ability to market something to drive business. Q3 of last year they had their best month as a company in nearly 4 years, they added approx. 650,000 net subscribers. Compared to Verizon Wireless, they have not had that bad of a quarter in their history as a company. While adding that many subscribers Sprint still managed to report a 910 million dollar loss for Q3. To put it nice they are in what you would call a cash flow crisis and will do anything they can to generate any revenue. I sugest doing your homework understand which companies are solvent and have liquid capital and will make the appropriate investment into the long term quality network infastructures you can count on. All the while having the capital to roll out the coverage faster than the snail pase of Sprint and their Wimax. The frequency is too high 1200mghz which is terreible for building penetration and upload speeds are competative with 3G not to mention the latency is horrible. With that said a network with as low of frequency as 700mghz providing strong signal distribution with a provitable company to roll out the infastructure I personal feel safe giving my money to a company that has built their business on network and will always deliver when it comes to network technology that is Verizon and their LTE network. My money every month is for the service and network reliability and I have yet to see another network perform as well as Verizon's consistantly accross the nation. I highly advise taking a look at the companies financials and their performance when t comes to the service you are paying for. you will be able to count on getting what you pay for.

posted on 25 Feb 2011, 02:11

75. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


If you actually fixed your grammar and did your homework, you would know majority of that loss is due to iden which has been confirmed to be a dying network for the past 7 years.
If you're in a building and complaining about the wimax signal, I feel bad for you cause that's not the real problem. The real problem is why you aren't on wifi.

posted on 25 Feb 2011, 02:24

76. Goldeneye (Posts: 419; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)


I'd rather to be ready now and for the NEXT 2 YEARS, which a new contract runs for, than have to locked myself for 2 years with "cool" features that you just mentioned, again 2 years is an eternity in the tech world, and mark my words it'll take less than 2 years that 4G will be widespread.

posted on 27 Feb 2011, 03:13

93. MrMiddl (unregistered)


i'm pretty sure you believe your points are valid, and they might be. but its all about money to any of these carriers. why make a phone with LTE this year when true its not widely available, but you can sell a phone next year and force upgrades and mass hysteria for a phone with it. its just like when they released IOS4 and iphone 3g (not 3GS) couldnt handle it. most average people had to renew contracts and get iphone 4 because their 3g phones would crash or lockup.Now i know the 3g is ancient by tech standards, but average people dont know how to decline updates or jailbreak and so on. so they bought new phones because they didnt know better. thats why apple hates the hackers, because we do.

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 17:54 1

52. Jp (unregistered)


I Agree

Sent back the Iphone 4 on Verizon. This thing was defiantly dated. If you have had a newer Android phone you are not going to want this thing. Maybe when the iphone 5 or 6 comes out.

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 14:24 2

35. BobbyTaba (Posts: 316; Member since: 11 Aug 2010)


verizon has over 150 million covered

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 09:34 1

3. LionStone (Posts: 753; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)


It'll look really nice though... :-)

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 09:47 7

4. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 468; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)


It kills me when Android loyalists get on iPhone threads and talk crap. I have a iPhone 4 and inspire 4g and they both are great devices. Apple is smart not to include LTE because its not really launched. I will be getting the new iPhone, not because its cool to but because its gonna be a great device. I been said Apple wouldn't add LTE. I know 1 thing though, the new iPhone will outsell any device head on by alot.

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 10:40 7

9. cnance (Posts: 8; Member since: 16 Dec 2010)


who is talking crap about apple. I think you are looking for a fight.lol

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 10:48 5

10. msa1988 (Posts: 418; Member since: 30 Mar 2010)


I agree with cnance. and why do you have 2 phones?

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 11:23 1

13. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 468; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)


You can read the comments and see the sideways apple comments but anyway no biggie. I have 2 phones because I like ios and Android and because $399 for the inspire is a great deal. I bought the iPhone 4 from Craigslist for $375 with a cracked screen which Apple fixed for free.

posted on 24 Feb 2011, 11:41 5

15. msa1988 (Posts: 418; Member since: 30 Mar 2010)


I don't think spending almost $800 on 2 phones i exactly a "goo deal".

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