US Judge rules that Samsung has infringed Apple patents
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2. bigboy029 posted on 14 Oct 2011, 03:44 5 0
Any company would do the same thing. If samsung created a hugely popular tablet, and any other major company created a tablet strikingly similar, they would sue. All Samsung needs to do if indeed their products will be banned is keep the same software that galaxy users love and just switch up the design a little. This is not a business killer for samsung.
3. cncrim posted on 14 Oct 2011, 04:06 2 4
Well!!! 3 out 3.
Now I do believe Samsung did copy Ipad design on purpose.
106. vmaster (unregistered) posted on 17 Oct 2011, 01:27 0 0
So can you be specific what Samsung copied?? The size dimensions are different, there is no physical button, the back design including camera location is completely different. So is it the color that apple patented?? The curve measurements on the edges, or the thickness of the edge bezel around the glass??? Oh its probably the glass on the screen, Samsung should have used wood instead since that's not patented by apple!
4. goflet (unregistered) posted on 14 Oct 2011, 04:07 5 2
on iphone 4s apple uses notification just like in android.what about that?.
7. Eingild posted on 14 Oct 2011, 04:31 0 4
Android is an open-source platform, so they cannot sue the hell out of Apple instantly.
8. ivanko34 posted on 14 Oct 2011, 04:35 8 6
Apple can copy. They did since the first days of apple.
But if you try to do something that looks like an apple product, apple will spend lot of money in lawsuits.
First time in history
Apple is not a cool company and their products are prisons
Anyway it is also the first time they make successful products
They have a long story of failures
So normal they defend their business, its the first time they earn money
75. Penny posted on 14 Oct 2011, 19:52 1 0
Ivanko's kinda right.
Apple does "expand" on other people's ideas, something Jobs did proudly admit in a 1997 interview. Nothing wrong with it as long as it serves a purpose and differentiates itself from the original idea.
Apple's ecosystem is very closed, and the only thing that works property with an Apple product is another Apple product (hyperbole, but you get the point).
Apple has gone through a rollercoaster ride, and they were close to failing until the release of the iPod. They have been extremely successful since.
5. Whateverman posted on 14 Oct 2011, 04:11 8 3
Wow, were these lawyers public defenders, pro-bono lawyers or what? Samsung just got screwed big time, but some of the fault belongs to Samsung themselves. Althought i think the look of the Tab and the iPad are very different, I've always said that those blocks behind the icons makes TouchWiz look too much like iOS. My question here is what is the judge ruling on? The physical look or the software? Either way, Samsung better do something, because they have lost every case since Steve Job's untimely death. Kinda weird how soon after all these judges are ruling within a week or so after. Could empathy be effecting the outcomes? IDK.
39. taco50 posted on 14 Oct 2011, 11:42 1 4
Both the software and the physical design look e same. Damn even Samsungs lawyers couldn't tell them apart. But according to you only a moron couldn't tell them apart. These are high priced educated lawyers. Did Samsung hire morons?
I love the excuse that these are sympathy victories. Especially since Apple was winning these before Steve died. Pathetic.
48. hepresearch posted on 14 Oct 2011, 12:22 2 2
Well, by this logic, it looks like Apple will defeat all who oppose it, crush Google and inherit all of Motorola's patents, perhaps also buy all of Nokia's patents, and then they can defend their new-found patent right for the design and sale of mobile phones... they will be the last mobile phone/tablet designer left in the world.
49. taco50 posted on 14 Oct 2011, 12:42 1 4
Ok sure by your fandroid logic
55. hepresearch posted on 14 Oct 2011, 13:15 2 2
Hahaha... Taco, do you really think I am a "fandroid"? LOL!
Seriously, though, Samsung can not pay Apple enough to license the patents necessary to continue the manufacture and sale of the entire Galaxy line, including both phones and tablets. Even if they do offer Apple an exorbitant amount of money, Apple can, and I think will, still say "Nope".
The way I see things going, I think that in the next three years you will find that 1 out of every 2 phones in the US will be an iPhone of some sort. There will be no successful tablets other than the iPad series. Feature phones, as we know them, will cease to exist. Google will be about to divest itself of the Android OS altogether. By the end of the decade, Samsung will be a memory module and integrated-chip manufacturer only, Google will be the search-engine/email/"cloud solutions" provider of choice, LG will be the maker of IPS displays, which will push OLED and LCD technology out of existence, and Apple will, having bought out all remnants of phone manufacturing and patents across the world, be the one and only phone/tablet manufacturer in the world. Samsung will make the chips, LG will make the screens, everything on the hardware end will still be assembled at Foxconn, and Apple will hold the patents, make the software, and ship the devices. By then, Apple will also be able to afford to buy back its own shares from Microsoft, and their unholy alliance will, no doubt, have come to a bitter end.
You want an MP3 player? Apple makes the iPod in many different varieties. You want a phone? Don't worry, Apple makes a high-end and a mid-range variant of the iconic iPhone these days. You want a tablet? Yeah, the iPad now comes in different sizes, too. You want a computer? No worries, Apple makes iMac laptops and desktops of all sorts of varying hardware designs. Need a television? Oh yeah, there is also the Apple TV. Since it all runs on LTE these days, there are two choices as well; AT&T or Verizon... one flat rate gets you your monthly data ration, unlimited voice, and makes sure that your FCC-mandated GPS connection works so that the government can keep you "safe" at all times.
"But I can't afford an iPhone, or an iPad, or an iMac!" you say. Well, if you must have electronics and/or internet, but can't afford Apple's many choices and alternatives of wares, then you might be able to find one of those cheap Windows/"Metro UI" thingies that Microsoft still makes... but it won't be compatible with much, and it will be terribly unstable, and it will be easily hackable... all "very bad" things in our day and age.
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79. RageQuit posted on 14 Oct 2011, 22:58 1 0
That would never happen. that whole scenario is just illogical. 1st lets start with carriers. if it gets to the point where their are just 2 then they will be forced to break apart again bust as Ma bell did before. I highly doubt Sprint is going anywhere, they are currently on a pretty good up swing, gaining customers.
Next computers, Macs haven't been able to pass windows in the past years people arnt just suddenly going to throw out their PC's and buy Mac's. you fail to realize that A lot of people prefer Windows. Sorry mate the world just doesn't work that way.
iPod is already pretty much the only real MP3 player to get but a lot of people are starting to use streaming services on their phones too like Slacker and Spotify. MP3 players are getting less popular now that you phone can do it.
Samsung isnt going to stop making Screen panels, i think you fail to realize the size of the company and large company's don't just stop making something they are know for and get large profits from. I Prefer OLED over IPS anyway.
You are also missing that a massive number of people who have androids got them because they want androids not iPhones, you seem to be missing the fact that many people can choose what they want they don't just dive for an iPhone(although there are plenty that do). android having a bunch of cheap phones makes up for some portion of sales but not the majority.
I cant really make a argument with the tablets, because currently that field is really new and things change fast so its difficult to make a assumption. My guess is iPad will dominate for a while. Although Windows 8 is right around the corner and Android makers are starting to figure out how to market their products to compete .
82. hepresearch posted on 15 Oct 2011, 00:01 0 1
Fortunately, my comment was laced with a great deal of sarcasm...
Yet, I still foresee the market on the carrier end of things narrowing down once Sprint begins competing on LTE with Verizon and AT&T. If the FCC allows the T-Mobile acquisition by AT&T, then I am nearly certain that Sprint will get acquired at some point, as well. In the FCC's rules it is only necessary to have two major competitors on any given network technology... hence with CDMA and GSM we ended up with four national competitors (T-Mo, AT&T, Sprint, VZW)... once everyone is on LTE, we will only need two at minimum... the largest and most set of which are AT&T and Verizon.
As far as Mac's go, I happen to know a lot of people and organizations that are switching over to Mac-based computing. I personally am not a fan, but I have to acknowledge that those who already have Macs tend to stick with them fanatically because they work exceptionally well at what they can do. Windows 8 will further more be afflicted with Metro UI, which is a significant turn-off for me... I will stick with Windows regardless, but I know a number of folks who are making the switch once this comes to pass, if it indeed happens.
Large companies make whatever is in demand, and occasionally test the waters with something new. IF iPhones overtake the market, which I have calculated to be around 74% market share for iOS, plus or minus error range, in 2020, then the likelihood of a company like Samsung, who is getting the crap sued out of them and the potential for their products to be banned regardless of whether they can offer large sums of money for the licensing/royalties purpose, continuing to try to compete in a market where they have been legally excluded by the powers that be is smaller than you think. They will go where large amounts of "safe" money can be made. They will be a supplier of memory, integrated chips and hardware solutions for the companies that do have the established (aka "litigated") legal ability to design mobile devices and software, and they will make lots of money doing that... perhaps as much or more than they make from competing in the current market.
I do have a few friends who will not dive for an iPhone, and go out of their way to get Android devices. I recently helped a good IT-oriented friend of mine determine which phone he should get to allow him to use certain kinds of mods and added features... I referred him to a particular HTC Android phone that fit his needs, wants, and budget, and helped him get everything unlocked and flashed. It has turned out good for him. However, I know very few individuals who will put the effort into Android to make it the way they want it and still get it to perform up to snuff...
My experience is that people who want a phone that they don't want to have to modify, customize, tinker with, or otherwise learn how to use, end up with an iPhone because it just works, and is reliable. I am not one of them...
53. Xpple (unregistered) posted on 14 Oct 2011, 13:09 3 0
Just a minor correction. . .
Some of the most educated people I know are THE stupidest people I know. PhD professors that have been using computers for 20 years can't can't even use copy/paste/cut properly, have no real understanding of what a browser is and what the internet actually is, etc. . . they are "educated" like a parrot and can't even think. Just regurgitate what's been fed to them. . . the perfect apple customer lol
54. taco50 posted on 14 Oct 2011, 13:12 0 4
Sure keep telling yourself that while you mow their lawns.
