Sharing is caring: Verizon’s Share Everything plans go into effect
1. DigitalBoy05 (Posts: 209; Member since: 04 Jun 2011)
i love the picture in the article. reminds me of a simpler time.
56. Zorin (Posts: 152; Member since: 26 Jul 2010)
This guy acts like we live in the world of Fallen Skies or Walking Dead when the world is overrun by aliens/zombies. LMAO
2. ajac09 (Posts: 1437; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
I hope AT&T does it dffrent maybe 5 10 15 gig splint among 5 lines at a cheaper rate 50 75 and 100 respectfully. Maybe offer like even bigger amounts of data to for more
3. steven252000 (Posts: 64; Member since: 10 Feb 2010)
Good luck to all 2 people the new plans benefit!!! Used phone market is gonna be good now I am thinking.
4. svec7186 (Posts: 49; Member since: 24 Jul 2011)
i hope ATT does it for less $$$ this was verizon will be more expensive, people will leave and VZW will reconsider their folly (spricing). their 700 minute plan is tooooo expensive for feature phones
5. roscuthiii (Posts: 1949; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
No thank you, I'll stick with unlimited. I'll just buy an unsubsidized Nexus next go 'round.
33. cripton805 (Posts: 1166; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
Some douche at Ventura Mall CA was so rude bro trying to push me to get rid of my plan while I asked about the Galaxy S3. I told him that it did not benefit me. He said I didn't know what I was talking about and that it would be better for me because I would get unlimited minutes and texting. (Exact words). I told him I used 13gb last month and he was still persistent in that the new plans were better. I told him I would have an overage of $100 already on top of the new plan.
I walked away.
I read an article that employees were getting bonuses for switching over unlimited customers. I strongly believe that it's true. My girlfriends exact words were... "What a douche..."
44. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
I'm sorry that you have had this experience. I am an agent location manager for one of Verizon's largest national agents, and I can tell you without a doubt that we DO NOT get compensated for moving customers to the Share Everything plans. I cannot speak for corporate employees, but I do know that agents are not being compensated for that.
7. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1017; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)
I dont know about you, but i like it the way it is with separate data plans. its one thing to have capped data among yourself, but to have it shared with someone else is crazy!! my wife has AT&T unltd data plan and wont change that for anything................and im not going to argue with her about that!! If you use your mobile internet like we do, you're not saving any money. i like the 3GB plan I have (wishing i had unltd data lol) and im not changing it
9. steven252000 (Posts: 64; Member since: 10 Feb 2010)
Correct me if I am wrong....Isn't the future moving towards Voice over LTE? Meaning that making voice calls will use DATA? Thus the new plans with unlimited voice calls and text will be useless? I may be wrong here and if I am I appologize. It just seems like that was what I had heard the future was moving towards. That way everything will be measured in mb/gb of data used. No more minutes used and text sent.
25. Greyhunter6 (Posts: 10; Member since: 06 Nov 2009)
You are absolutely right. Verizon has been testing VoLTE for over a year now. I couldn't find the story about it but I do remember seeing it.
Here is one about AT&T going that direction as well.
I won't give up my unlimited. No way, no how.
55. Zorin (Posts: 152; Member since: 26 Jul 2010)
Not just that...but if you have 4-5 numbers on a family plan, you already get unlimited calls/txt to anyone on VZW, which included your family. The switch, even with shared data isn't all that.
10. troutsy (Posts: 293; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)
Should note that if you have a corporate/employee discount you are almost guaranteed to spend more with the new plans... unless you take a significant reduction in data.
None of the examples from VZW seem to mention that.
15. master0fursinz (Posts: 104; Member since: 26 Apr 2010)
your corp or employee discount is applied to the data share plan cost..
11. mattjt21 (Posts: 3; Member since: 26 Jun 2012)
I will be going to Straight talk mostlikely. At&t's coverage isn't that much worse in the Northeast. Not too mention HSPA+ is slightly faster than verizon 3g
23. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3072; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Depends on where you live. Verizon I only get 1 mbps down on a good day when I average 10-15 mbps on HSPA+.
27. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Are you getting 1 Mb/s down on LTE? If so, there may be a problem with your phone's LTE radio. When I received my first RAZR, there were problems with its LTE radio dropping out. Fortunately, the radio dropped out right in a VZW store, so there was no question about the radio dropping out and I walked out of the store with a replacement RAZR.
13. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
Aside from many people who post here, most customers I have seen so far have been able to see more value at least, and many people with multiple lines have saved money.
Keep in mind guys, 90% or so of customers DO NOT use more than 2GB/month on their smartphones. I would estimate atm more than 50% of Verizon customers stand to benefit from the new plans.
Bottom line, this is not as apocalyptic as many of you are trying to make it sound. Yes some people will be negatively affected by this, but the majority of people stand to gain value and/or save money.
This is all based on my experience from the yesterday and today in my store. Other people may have different experiences, but this is mine, for what it is worth.
18. Whateverman (Posts: 3237; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Your explaination may work very well for new customers but for people who have unlimited data, use between 2-5 GB of data, and very little mins or text per month. One rep tried selling me on the idea yesterday but there is NO WAY any of you are going to convience me to pay $10 more for more of what I don't use and less of what I always use. That's NOT going to happen! All this does is give VZW an opportunity to make money on customers who are currently untouchable because we will never go over on data and rarely exceed our mins or text plans. So you guys are gonna have to try a lot harder than "We can save you some money".
Also while on that call with that rep, she confirmed and notated that if I bought my phone from Amazon, Wirefly, or even Sam's Club and keep my unlimited data plan. I really hope that's true because if not, I no longer have ANY reason to stay with VZW and I suspect other customers will feel the same.
19. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
I personally don't try to convince people to change unless I truly think they will benefit. I can't speak for other reps, but that is how I do things, and that is how my reps at my store do things.
As for purchasing you phone elsewhere, any customer provided equipment, or any smartphone purchased at retail, will allow you to retain your unlimited data. How you loose your data is when you sign up for a new 2-year agreement at this point.
Unless you sign a new contract for a new activation or an upgrade, you won't lose your unlimited data.
20. Whateverman (Posts: 3237; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I don't envy the job you're going to have to do. It sounds like you have the right approach to this whole thing, but the executive don't realize just how screwed up this plan is. The way customers rose up against the $2 fee to pay your bill was great, but why people aren't fighting this much higher increase is beyond me. But there are going to be some very angry customers coming your way in the next few months, and for dealing with that ...you guys deserve combat pay.
21. Whateverman (Posts: 3237; Member since: 17 May 2009)
"Unless you sign a new contract for a new activation or an upgrade, you won't lose your unlimited data."
Wait just a second...are you saying that the two year agreement is the trigger? That ANY agreement to a two year contract, even if you buy a phone subsidized through a third party website? Because that wasn't what I was told.
22. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
Apparently I don't have the right attitude for all the thumbs down on my comments lol.
Yes, the trigger is a new 2 year agreement. Any phone you buy that has a subsidized element to it, i.e. requiring a new 2-year agreement, will trigger the loss of unlimited data, if you have it.
If you purchase a new phone at retail, or buy a used phone online, that does not sign a new 2-year, and you will keep your unlimited data.
At least you understand this isn't an easy job for us in the store level. Some people this will help. Other people will be pissed off, no doubt.
30. Whateverman (Posts: 3237; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Ahhhh! This is worse than I thought. I hate to say it, but I will be looking for another carrier. I tried it stay with VZW out of loyalty (I used to work in the call center) and also because it's the best network. But this is just wrong. The only reason I upgraded last year was because I was told I could keep my unlimited plan if I upgraded before the new tiered plans went into effect. Now VZW is saying "Too bad, we lied! Give up the unlimited plan or pay full retail. Either way you WILL pay more"!
I'm tired of defending VZW and there is no possible way I can be loyal to a company that takes every opportunity to screw me.
And dont take the thumbs down personal, I think many of us are pissed at VZW and being an employee sometimes makes you a target. It's not fair, but it's not personal.
34. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
If you did upgrade before the plans went into effect on June 28th then you did get to keep the unlimited. Now that the plans are in effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is buying at retail or a used phone, or any way that doesn't involve a new contract.
I'm sorry guys I really am, but it was never the decision of anyone at the store level.
Pay attention though, I would bet that soon other major carriers will do the same now that VZW has done it. That tends to be the way it goes. That is what happened to offering unlimited data. One did it, then others followed soon after. downphoenix does make a good point though, that these plans do compare favorably to many other carriers for similar offerings.
No one thing fits everyone, and if the new plans do not fit you, I do apologize, but please don't take it out on the messengers like me...
36. cfprelude (Posts: 119; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
i don't know why this is such a shock... its been well publicized and covered on this site and others. all you're really "giving up" to keep your unlimited data is the process of buying a subsidized phone.... but really, you're only able to do that once every 2yrs anyway and it normally only saves u about $300-400 dollars (thats approx $15/month....). So unless you just have to buy a new phone the first couple weeks that it comes out, you're much better buying a phone a month or so after it gets released... on ebay, CL, etc. I know thats what i'll do for a while. (BTW i pre-orderd 2 SGIII's to use our upgrades before the new plans take effect... might keep them but most likely sell them and use the profit to help buy whatever phone we want in the next few months.)
41. Whateverman (Posts: 3237; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I'm the type of customer that waits for a phone to go on sale for a penny on Amazon, so buying a phone outright means I will pay an extra $500 - $600 for my upgrades, and I have 4 lines. So if this plan doesn't get overturned, I'll just have to start shopping. It's no big deal, it's just seems we're being treated as cattle and not customers.
53. cfprelude (Posts: 119; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
I see ur argument however I don't think I've ever seen a phone go for a penny on amazon and still cost 500-600 on the grey market. As always there will be many people who get it for a penny and list it for 300 on CL or eBay or a number of other sites. Feel free to make a change but if u have unlimited on vzw I'd look for every opp to keep it. Because once its gone its gone forever and right now no one has truly unlimited lte 4g (unless ur grandfathered in on att or vzw).
14. deviantirish79 (Posts: 26; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)
700 Minute talk and text. $90
5 lines @ $9.99 = $49.95
1 PDA w/ 2GB = $30
Total = 169.95
New Share Everything Plan 2GB $60
1 PDA = $40
4 Feature Phones = $120
Total = $220
Total Ripoff for unlimited minutes.
16. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
Please show me where I said this would work for EVERYONE........
29. theguero (Posts: 7; Member since: 24 Jan 2011)
Actually 700 minute talk and UNLIMITED TEXT is $99.99 for the first two lines. Then you add 3 @ $9.99 each. So your total with the 2GB data is $159.96 + taxes and crap.
37. cfprelude (Posts: 119; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
im not gonna stick up for the unlimited plans (god knows I'm gonna fight the switch) but i'd also venture to say you are one of VERY few people that have 5 lines and 700mins.
51. deviantirish79 (Posts: 26; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)
Most of the customers I have carry 5 lines with only 700 Minutes.
52. cfprelude (Posts: 119; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
That's nuts. I know people are talking less these days but that's about 6mins a day per line. If ur talking that little u might see if a small tablet might be better for a few of those lines. They are only $10 a line under the new plans and ud save a few bucks for sure. Again though, I'm sure ur the minority. I don't remember where but there was a study done a while back that showed att and vzw family share plans consistently utilize the 1400 or more min plans and more and more were signing up for the unlimited plans. But that was a year or so ago so maybe there a more people like u and smarter people using voip type solutions.
17. master0fursinz (Posts: 104; Member since: 26 Apr 2010)
you know you dont have to move off the plan your on, it not like they are pushing you to do it or else. people need to review it and make a educated decision on what to do, if its cheaper to stick with your plan the way it is dont change it, it all comes down to if it makes sense to change.
24. bubbadoes (Posts: 567; Member since: 03 May 2012)
The intent here is to connect smartphones and tablets...hence data...kind of hard to plea your case with four feature pbones and one smartphones on your plan.
28. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 7040; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
It's the Care Bare count down "5,4,3,2,1".
31. downphoenix (Posts: 2768; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
I think these plans are actually pretty decent, at least for some customers. Its not going to work out for EVERYBODY, and that holds true with just about every carrier's plan offerigns. If you go to youtube.com/downphoenix though, I showed a comparison video of the plans recently, of some pretty common offerings I see at work. Verizon's new plans worked out pretty favorably in both comparisons.
32. EarnYourLeather (Posts: 87; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
Well, guess I better start saving to buy a phone at retail in 1.5 years.
38. cfprelude (Posts: 119; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
about $15/month should do it (take a $199 phone subsidized every 2 yrs + the $15/month instead of paying that for a more expensive/less data plan and you'll be able to pay full price for it every 2yrs)
39. joey18 (Posts: 574; Member since: 20 Jul 2010)
Is overprice now i pay 240 new plans 250 or 260 where's saving money and less data my 3 smartphone we go over 8g idont wan voice my 700 minutes only we go 400 a week so why verizon dont make plans less minutes and more data
42. hornetmx (Posts: 71; Member since: 12 Mar 2010)
So no one is saving money ha???? Mmmm just helped a long time customer with 5 lines in the nw unl t&t =299.99 and 3 smartphones paying for 3 unl 29.99 plan for a total of approx $390. He is averaging less than 1gig on 2 lines and less than 2gig on the third one.
New plan still unl t&t 3 smarphones at $40 each = $120 and basic at $30 = 60 for a total $180 plus $100 10 gig block (more than double his ave usage) for a grand total of $280.
$390 - $280 = $110 savings a month plus hotspot included. Thats $56 per line folk. Metro pcs/Boost mobile/Straight talk price with the best network in the US.
I know most of us here have issues thinking people actually can use less than 1 gig a month of data, but once again only 5% use more than 2gig.
What a rip off...how dare does VZW do that.
Cmon trolls. Waiting for the thumbs down because the new plan wont save YOU money.
43. Beholder88 (Posts: 81; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
I know this won't work for everyone. I work in customer service and have reviewed multiple accounts to compare between the Share Everything plans and the old plans. If you have multiple devices, and have normal usage of less than 2GB per line, this will benefit you. For the whole 5 - 10 accounts I looked at with usage over 2GB, it could still benefit you if you have other lines that are using less than 2GB. I can also say that we are NOT being compensated in any way for switching people over to the new plans. That's about dumb. I wish we were, because I've switched so many people, I should have a fat paycheck. If anything Verizon is LOSING money from this, because almost everyone is cutting their bill, if even by $10 - $20 per month. If you are on an unlimited plan, and using over 10GB just by yourself, you need to find another way to get your data (WIFI for example). If your that high, also keep in mind that you are in the minority, and are costing Verizon more money than you make them because of your usage. It wouldn't hurt them for you to leave for a sub-par company with sub-par service.
45. slickric620 (Posts: 11; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
One thing PA fails to mention is that you can stay on your current plan when you upgrade, you just have to switch to the 2GB plan per smart phone. So those on a 700 min talk & text plan with 3 basic phones and 1 smart phone can use a little more wifi and keep there same low rate. What a couple others have previously said is true. These plans are and will continue to benefit a majority of their customers. VZW has left loop holes such as the scenario above to minimize anyone getting royally screwed by the new plans. To reiterate what was said earlier, we are not getting compensated to switch people to share everything in any way whatsoever. If all you're getting when you go to a store is a push to go to share everything when it. Clearly isn't in your best interest, then you found a rep that either isn't competent or is lazy. I suggest asking for another rep or going to a different location. Verizon's training his heavy on ensuring the best possible experience for the customer, which includes qualifying them for the best possible plan for them. Remember guys, those of us that use 4+ GB's of data a month are in the massive minority and these new plans are helping far more people than they are hurting and its not even close. I do apologize if you fall into the latter, I do as well. But there are ways around it. As said before expect most of the major careers to switch to this type of structure, its where the industry is headed.
47. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
Prepare for thumbs down sir lol. That sums up what I've been saying, people just don't want to hear it. I gave you thumbs up because everything you just said is true.
54. cfprelude (Posts: 119; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
The main thing people reading PA are forgetting is that MOST people gave up their unlimited plans already. The vast majority of people have smart phones (many recent studies showing the increase in smart phones compared to basic phones) with data plans of 30+ for each line (2gb). For most of them this is going to make great sense because they probably don't hit their data limit and can now decrease the overall data and share it between lines. We that are reading these forums are notorious for tethering and other things to use a lot more data than the average person and have manager to keep our unlimited data plans but for most people on tiered plans, they'll be pleased with this new plan. As you can see from the examples above.
46. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
Gotta love all the thumbs down I've been getting lol. All I've done is give my honest experiences in my store and an honest account of what needs to be done to keep your unlimited data.
Nothing of what I said has been insulting, inflammatory, or otherwise rude, so thumbs down away all you want, I will continue to give you the honest scoop. If it winds up being what you don't want to hear, tough. Life isn't fair, and life isn't all peaches and cream. Good luck to you if you can't handle the truth.
48. steven252000 (Posts: 64; Member since: 10 Feb 2010)
I just worry about the new plans because data is the way of the future and Verizon knows this. With carriers hinting at moving towards Voice over LTE in the near future that will cause data useage to go up.....am I correct? I feel that with the VoLTE there will be no need for a traditional phone line any more. Instead of voice calls being made on a per minute type phone line it will be made on a data LTE connection. So what happens then? Will the "typical" person start using more and more data?
49. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
I'd be willing to bet you will again see some different plans coming if/when things move to VoLTE. If it becomes everything moving over the LTE network, I cannot see a situation where there will not be different plans for that issue.
Anything we say right now about VoLTE at this point is still speculation of course, but I can't see these plans being the primary plans when/if the switch to that happens.
50. slickric620 (Posts: 11; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
I second this. Cell phone. Carriers (all of them) aren't looking at jacking up prices and screwing all of there customers. They aren't going to pull a bait and switch. Part of the current plan includes unlimited talk and text. If everything is through data then the cost for talk and text would have to drop off. Verizon would lose virtually every customer if they tried to lure you in with lower prices then jack up your data usage. People that are freaking out about VoLTE aren't thinking this through. Verizon still needs a customer base to be profitable. If they pulled the old bait and switch they would be guaranteed to lose a mass majority of their customer base. Why freak out over something you think "could" be a possibility. If it really comes down to what you speculate in the end. Then that's when you shop around. Its crazy to shop now when the other carriers haven't yet (but surely will) update there price plans. Especially over changes that might happen 2 - 4 years down the road.