Samsung Galaxy S 4 manufacturing costs estimated, higher retail price
1. lhikary (Posts: 3; Member since: 18 Mar 2013)
Now if you thought about it thats what it cost to build
but we dont know how many millions of dollars are spent to create the technology, so the $400 are for them to pay for their employees and to research and develop new technology
but like always the price drops after a few months
and i will buy the note 3 when its around $500
if that is it can run
Command & Conquer: Tiberum alliances
its an HTML5 game and it lags like hell on a galaxy s3
i wanna know how it will work on a galaxy s4, HTC One and a phone with nvidia tegra 4
2. papss (unregistered)
Oh boy.. One step closer to being Apple
21. jsdechavez (Posts: 721; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
A lot of Samsung fans here sourgraping that their brand isn't overpricing.
22. Kal-el (Posts: 93; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)
Uhhh iphone 5 costs less around 207...and average cost is 800-900 some times 1000 dollar to crazy buyers ........that's roughly 600 mark up...for an inferior 1-2 year old tech claimed as "new" that doesn't even do half of the features that this particular phone does
24. Hemlocke (unregistered)
That "inferior tech" smacked the S3 in every way. Why do you think Samsung only waited 9 months to release the S4? The S3 was prematurely done, and Sammy needed something to stop the bleeding. What do you think will happen when the new iPhone comes out? Hell, the S3 was outsold by the 4S in 2012, let alone what the 5 has done.
35. SleepingOz (unregistered)
WTF DID I JUST READ?!
36. SleepingOz (unregistered)
"That "inferior tech" smacked the S3 in every way."
"Hell, the S3 was outsold by the 4S in 2012, let alone what the 5 has done."
I'd like to know where did you get these BS from. You dreamt of them last night or something?
48. aahmed215 (Posts: 163; Member since: 18 Jun 2012)
"Hell, the S3 was outsold by the 4S in 2012"
Maybe it's because the 4S has been out for much longer.
3. Meleagru (Posts: 92; Member since: 03 Dec 2012)
It's still not as high as the markup that Apple has, if not for the simple reason that Samsung puts more hardware inside their phones.
5. Droiddoes (unregistered)
And software. And features. And options. And settings.
I have no problem paying Lexus prices for Lexus features (Samsung).
I have a huge problem paying Lexus price for Geo features in a Lexus body (apple)
8. Xtasy (Posts: 284; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
Ye and most of the feautures are usless gimmiky crap
16. papss (unregistered)
Did you just list multiple parts to software to make it seem like it cost them that much more?id rather pay for a Lexus that is feature rich and a good body.. I'm not rewarding a company that lazily designs their phones.
30. Hemlocke (unregistered)
What they fail to take into account are two major things: software development and economies of scale.
Android is free. Samsung doesn't spend a dime developing it, nor do they pay for it. They develop the ugliest and buggiest Android skin, TouchWiz, but that's it. Google does all the heavy lifting.
Economies of scale? Apple could build the S4 for less than $200. Nobody preorders and locks up components as early, as often, and in the quantities Apple does. Tim Cook is CEO because he built and maintained a peerless supply chain, and Apple has reaped the rewards. The difference in BOM and retail price between the iPhone and S3 are negligible, plus Sammy has 100 other phones on shelves and clearly outsells Apple overall. Yet Apple still manages almost 70% of mobile industry profits. That's no accident. All of their moves are focused, their entire lineup fits on a kitchen table, and nobody else approaches their level of organization and vertical integration.
34. VZWuser76 (Posts: 3616; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Apple could build the S4 cheaper? First, they don't build anything. Second, until recently a lot of the bigger iphone components were provided by Samsung. On the international model, Samsung is providing all of the major parts, SOC, screen, memory, so how the hell is Apple going to beat that when they are dependent on outside sources for building materials. It doesn't matter how far ahead they buy or how much they order, they are buying from an outside source. Samsung is using it's own stock, that's always going to be cheaper.
51. Kal-el (Posts: 93; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)
LOL apple and "BUILDING SAMSUNG" ahahhahhaa ...it's quite the other way around for the longest time...until certain lawsuit came around...samsung built processors and ram and some cases internal storage ... internal is mostly Toshiba...
ideally iphone was :
Camera lens essentially Sony
Rectangle design by apple....claims lawsuit....
don't believe me
11. SleepingOz (unregistered)
Yeah, not to forget that Samsung spends billions on R&D every year.
They work, design and develop their own hardwares(Exynos, SuperAMOLED etc..).
18. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Exynos is a mostly stock ARM design, whereas the A6 (and Krait) are completely custom because Qualcomm and Apple have ARM architecture licenses, whereas Samsung has a regular OEM license. AMOLED screens aren't developed by Samsung, they are built to spec from Universal Display IP. Try again.
38. SleepingOz (unregistered)
"AMOLED screens aren't developed by Samsung, they are built to spec from Universal Display IP."
Who are you kidding actually? Samsung is the largest AMOLED supplier. They might have not invented the OLED technology but they are the one who have bring OLED technology where it is nowadays! They have developed the AMOLED, SuperAMOLED HD(pentile/non-pentile, trashing a football field worth of display glass in order to get it right. If that's not money spent on R&D, what it is then? ), SuperAMOLED FHD and now, Flexible AMOLED coming soon.
Meanwhile, apple is busy filing stupid patents about square with rounded corners.
20. jsdechavez (Posts: 721; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
...Yeah, not to forget that Samsung spends billions on R&D every year.
They work, design and develop their own hardwares(Exynos, SuperAMOLED etc..).
......AND COPY OTHERS' SOFTWARE.
27. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
That's Innovation which Apple has been crying out loud all these years :)
4. Angkor (Posts: 108; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Samsung spent billions dollars a year in upgrading manufacturing plants and R&D when compared to rotten Apple has no manufacturing plants only R&D and Apple Stores.
6. Droiddoes (unregistered)
But appfail spends billions on patent applications and bullsh*t lawsuits, so they have the edge there.
10. Xtasy (Posts: 284; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
and yet they keep same design and a higher price tag...tisk tisk
19. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Samsung Mobile spent zero on upgrading plants. They are different companies, which is why Samsung has to buy components and each subsidiary reports earnings separately.
7. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Are pocketnow and phone arena this desperate for Samsung controversy that they would post this as Samsung contradicting themselves?
I work for an electronic giant and I do marketing research for them. My team and I get pressured for results in all areas, including how many people enter one of the contests we are responsible for. So when we put approximate retail value with an asterix, of course we are listing the highest possible price so that consumers think that they are entering the contest for something that is too expensive for them to buy, otherwise they would just buy it and find it easier than giving us their information or filling out a survey.
It is pure marketing.
37. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2700; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I can't speak for pocketnow, but there's no judgement here. We reported something yesterday, and that has changed, so we reported that as well. It happens to be info that goes well with new estimates on the cost to build. Simple as that. We're just passing along information. There's only controversy if you make one.
9. Xtasy (Posts: 284; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
Admit it guys the S3 is just a load of hype built with a ton of feautures u barely use and are inadequate and the S4 doesn't make a difference...The only thing u will be upgrading to is better resolution and 13 MP camera...Plus who needs another phone that is not one handed user friendly
14. bucky (Posts: 2442; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
agreed. Too big now. This phone would be amazing at 4.5" or even 4.3". Phones should not be cumbersome...supposed to help us get through the day easier.
15. lpratas (Posts: 235; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
It is not only the camera. It is the screen, it's the battery,its the chipsets (in this case two different chipsets) and software, essencialy.
44. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
plus the s3 is actually below the average looks
while some unbiased sites say that s4 is stunning but not in the level of HTC One
12. lyndon420 (Posts: 3709; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Google the phrase "who spends more on research and development - samsung or apple?", and see what comes up.
13. bucky (Posts: 2442; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
that was already reported weeks ago...
Get something new...
17. lyndon420 (Posts: 3709; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Look at you...on top of things. Gold star for stevie. You ever have a gold star before? If not, then today is for you big guy.
23. bubbadoes (Posts: 813; Member since: 03 May 2012)
Apple makes $450 per phone and recycle the processors through the eco system of ios still churning a profit. Watch a7 in new iphone. Current a6 on iphone 5 will then be added to ipod mini and forthcoming ipods etc. And the cycle continues.
29. Muayyad (Posts: 236; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
Mobile industry is at it's peak. PC's not anymore.
31. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Me too, the price is burning too! :)
32. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Even though the S4 is more expensive, it is still more worth buying than the iPhone 5.
(Sorry, I accidently pressed the reply button.)
39. ANANDALTER (Posts: 124; Member since: 07 Feb 2013)
This is nonsense, just price of the parts and manufacturing costs doesn't decide price. What about the brand name, marketing costs, after sales support[ maintenance costs], some other miscellaneous costs!!!!
This is just a rubbish article.
40. skullman (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)
guys, do you think apple provide all features like Samsung answer noooo.....so don't think about price
41. rustyimtiaz (Posts: 44; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
when S3 was released in UAE its price was 2,500 Dirhams ($679) S2 was 2,600 ($707) and i guess samsung will price S4 at 2,400 Dirhams ($652) which is close to $640!! so its a good price as both BB10 and xperia Z is 2,500 Dirhams ($679)!!
42. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
definitely they won't do such a thing.
how is it possible to price a new flagship lower than the last year one?
as far as i know, Sammy has increased the price of S3 and Note2 after 2 months.
45. rustyimtiaz (Posts: 44; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
i'm talking abt UAE!! they reduce the prices as the market is getting competitive!!
43. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
They use plastic design and body to save and put more into the specs. Simple. Many people don't really care about design, they just like the juicy specs.
46. papss (unregistered)
And many people want both
50. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Actually people only want what they can't get .. human nature :)
47. taikucing (unregistered)
lol. the cost to build a well known brand phone is probably a third or a quarter of its retail price. And iPhone is very very very overpriced. Apple rob money from noobs & innocent people
52. R-vjn (Posts: 177; Member since: 07 Jan 2013)
lol, I already knew the manufacturing costs of samsung phones were much lower than the retail prices..the feel and quality of the phone highly represents it..!! lols
Samsung's best friend is software features (80% no one ever uses) and highlighting them like hell in advertisements making the ordinary people buy them..!