PhoneArena Awards 2011: Person of the year
1. seanjohnusa91 (Posts: 30; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)
I respect Steve Jobs and appreciate everything that he has done for technology as a whole whether it is phone or film and may he rest in peace however, if it wasn't for his passing, he wouldn't have received this award IMO. He didn't do much THIS YEAR.
3. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)
true. andy rubin is the man who changed the mobile landscape.
6. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
If it was up to Rubin, android would have been a RIM clone. The earliest HTC android prototypes were copies of RIM devices.
13. ledbetterp3 (Posts: 466; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)
He would've eventually changed, this is person of the year btw, not "greatest person who ever lived", Andy Rubin deserves respect because his endless efforts to the platform on track, just like phonearena said.
26. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
As I stated before, android success to date is due to Google's vast resources. If Rubin got hit by a truck tomorrow and dies, Google's vast resources will continue to pump out new versions of android.
People will be more impressed with Rubin if he pulled a Linus from the creator of Linux.
37. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
you can state whatever u want, that doesnt make it correct.
Android's success lies in its design. It was designed to be pliable. Its like putty.. you can mold it to pretty much any design and purpose you can think of... which is in stark contrast to iOS.
Honest reality, NONE of those people deserve to be up there. SJ didnt do squat this year, and other than take credit for everyone elses work, what has he actually done in the last 5? Rubin started Android, but what did he do this year.. personally? And same goes for everyone else in nomination.
The only thing these guys have in common is they are the head's of their company/department and their company has had a pretty successful year.
The real "person of the year" is someone we have never heard of, because they are doing all the work, coming up with all the ideas, but because of the way business works, they get none of the credit. The company owns whatever Ideas they think up. And who gets to take public credit for that? The CEOs... aka Jobs and Rubin and the rest.
27. antifanboy (banned) (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)
Why do poster here choose to ignore reality. Just yesterday there was an article that android was being designed with a trackball in mind. When iPhone came out they changed coursed. It was Apple who ignited the touchscreen craze and android obviously followed suit. They rushed it though and never optimized the OS for touch.
30. rf1975 (Posts: 241; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
You comment about android initial design is correct. recent because there was not a single good device out there to give a good touch experience. After seeing the iPhone success in this area they (Google) just change the direction of the OS. that's it.
34. bossmt_2 (Posts: 430; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
When computers were developed they were the size of rooms, when motorola was developing cell phones they came in bags, ideas change over time.
Also how is Android "never optimized" for Touch? I mean with the exception of the menu and home button in most apps that's all you need to use? Disregarding of course that Honeycomb/ICS doesn't even any solid buttons on the front need, because the home button is part of 3 relatively stationary on screen keys.
Sure Android was a work in progress, but that doesn't mean that it can't become hands down the greatest handset OS out there, cause it certainly has that ability. Hell Apple has already started implementing several key android features into it's OS cause they're great ideas.
38. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Android was designed to be on ANYTHING. That was the purpose of android. As they said themselves, android was designed as a phone second and a computer first.
43. thebikerboi2 (Posts: 144; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
theres a difference between designed and optimised, android has been desighned with a touch GUI but the OS itself has not been optimised for touch screens
5. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Steve Jobs didn't do much THIS YEAR was because he was dying. Despite poor health, he continued to work as much as he could at the company he founded. SIRI is clearly a game changer.
Rubin didn't do much either without Google's vast resources. Google is responsible for android in its current form.
Bezos will go down in history for selling a crappy 7" tablets at a loss in 2011. The return rates for the Amazon Fire has been estimated as high as 15% or more.
25. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
The issue is about people of the year. Stick to the topic as in stay on topic if you possess that ability or perhaps that's a bit too challenging.
15. WirelessCon (Posts: 309; Member since: 11 May 2010)
Siri is not a game changer. It's a marketing gimmick. It's not a spec. It's an application.
24. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
It is a game changer because it changes the way smartphones will be used in the future. It brought AI to the consumer masses.
Spec's are overrated, which is why ZTE or Huawei will take share from Samsung in the android space in the future. There is NO spec that ZTE or Huawei can't get access to by using alternative products.
35. bossmt_2 (Posts: 430; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
Do you seriously think Jobs was writing code for SIRI? Or even really came up with the idea? I'm sure he gave it the OK to include or spend more money researching it, but that's the CEO's job.
I get the idea of giving the man representing the company credit for a company's find in this type of poll, but if Jobs hadn't passed he wouldn't have won this poll. It's not a shame to admit it really, I mean it's happened in other votings as well, just the nature of human emotion I guess.
40. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
You think Siri is AI??
Ardent, as pretentious and intelligent as you want to keep trying to tell people u are, u should know what AI is and how far Siri is from AI. Being able to recognize the same command 3 different ways is not AI, its extra scripting.
44. thebikerboi2 (Posts: 144; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
any program able to reply to speech in any amount of ways and the ability to learn how you speak deserves to be called a AI, it may not have been the ultra inteligent super Ai youve been looking for but an AI none the less
9. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
" The winner in today's category should serve as an example of how a company should be operated and should be an inspiration to free-thinking individuals"
unless they mean a company should sue all competitors out of existence and you can only freely think when your told u can... i think apple got disqualified from the statement. :)
SJ was going to win. That was obvious
20. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)
@remix... SJ did set a blue print on how advertising a product should be done.. how to turn a company on the brink of bankruptcy into one of the most profitable company 3 years in a row... he was such an influence on the mobile industry that Android resurrected to become a mobile giant..It also made a company as big as Samsung to released products similar to a point that is being disputed in court.. unless you can think of someone else as interesting.. please let me know...
39. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yea, how about the employees that actually come up with the ideas, the employees that actually code in and impliment the ideas, or even the laywers that come up with these ridiculous arguments that we are so fond of watching.
SJ has done none of that.. but yet you give him credit for all of it. Great.. he nitpics colors of icons on sunday mornings.. woo hoo.. give him the nobel peace prize too. He has done more than Obama and Gore, so he obviously deserves that too.
BTW, Apple lost their stupid arguments. And stupid is the right word after they gave Samsung advice on how to build a device that they wouldnt say is infringing on them.
2. Uzzelien (Posts: 131; Member since: 22 Feb 2011)
Steve Jobs man of the year lol! If they're going to make it an Apple thing like PA loves to do then make it the real person behind the design of it and not the person doing the marketing of it. Steve Jobs was really nothing more then a glorified door to door sales man.
4. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)
or they should change name to "iperson of the year"
7. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
The design is made by jonathan ive. And he worked closly with Steve jobs. And phill chiller is bere to do the world wide marketing of apple not steve jobs. Are you rly that stupid?
If you think Steve Jobs didn't developped their products with the others, then you're info is incorrect.
10. Uzzelien (Posts: 131; Member since: 22 Feb 2011)
Yea and it was Steve Jobs who came up with the iPod the very first mp3 player!
11. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
What's your problem? You don't know how apple is runned. You even thought that steve jobs did all the marketing. Wich says about your knowledge being low.
And I can't remember them saying it was the very first. Pls do me a favor and watch the keynote of the iPod revealed. Then at least you will say correct info. I can't say what's different between mp3. Then I need to write sth longer.
19. Uzzelien (Posts: 131; Member since: 22 Feb 2011)
First runned isn't a word. Steve Jobs was just a sales man. Do you really think a president of company has the time to do designs on every product? They don't Apple says this stuff to make you guys think this stuff. You have to be a real fanboy to think that he does more then just say this is a good product now let me go talk with the people who have their heads up their asses to far to notice we haven't done crap in about seven years.
22. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Uzzelien, you're being unctuous on purpose. And if you think Steve Jobs was just a salesperson, then you are ignorant and unctuous.
36. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
actually.. like most things apple ... the idea Idea and design of the iPod was stolen... umm. Eeeerr.. creatively borrowed from another poor soul.. who not only did they admit to stealing his ideas,they used his original design drawings for patent defence, and still refused to pay him a dime.
14. ojdidit84 (Posts: 276; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
Actually, Archos, Creative and Diamond Rio as well as a couple other not as successful brands had mp3 players long before Apple came out with the first iPod.
16. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
But I'm not saying they were first I said I quote myself "And I can't remember them saying it was the very first" It's because they never said it. Watch the ipod revealment vid to know why it was different to the very first mp3's.
12. FAW-Q (Posts: 63; Member since: 29 Jul 2011)
Hey PhoneArena! You guys should add a "PA reader of the year" and award him/her according to the comments that they leave. That way some of your readers (mostly bigot trolls) would stop making you guys look bad.
41. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
wait.. should I be excited or insulted? im not really clear on the award.. lol
17. WirelessCon (Posts: 309; Member since: 11 May 2010)
Calling the head corporate honchos the "people of the year" seems to be a real weak statement by Phonearena. How about the people doing the real work, the real designers, the real code writers, or that dude who broke a football field's worth of gorilla-like glass HD screens.
A site focused on the tech industry and cutting edge should probably focus on the people doing that work, not the overseers.
21. WirelessCon (Posts: 309; Member since: 11 May 2010)
Jeff Bezos? The Kindle Fire isn't a PHONE. It doesn't even have 2G/3G/4G. It's a wi-fi device.
Why is this site called PhoneArena? We need MORE PHONE BATTLES. But, you know, what's in a name.
23. Heatfan316 (Posts: 372; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
So typical of Phonearena, it's like we didn't even need to see the results. (/•:)
28. antifanboy (banned) (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)
Apple only won 1 award for best camera on a phone. The readers actually elected Steve Jobs and the iPad as tops. I don't see how you think they're biased. They also gave the iPhone 4S an 8.5 rating which is not very good.
29. Fallout09 (Posts: 413; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Person of the year is the same person who felt give money to charity was throwing money away. No thanks. I like to think of person of the year is someone who not only excels in his field but also represents himself/company outside his field. And Steve Jobs is not someone I would put in this category. Does sweat shops with poor working conditions and driving around with no license plate ring any bells? Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Steve Jobs was a total douche.
31. DatabaseMX (Posts: 19; Member since: 27 May 2009)
Steve Jobs. Wow! Lets see. Don't blame Obama for no jobs! Blame (partially) the man with the same last name as the subject. Apple has something like $75 BILLION in cash reserves, yet all their junk is made in China. WTF? Are you telling me with that kind of profit margin they cannot build the junk in the United States - creating at least some 'jobs' !!!!
33. Uzzelien (Posts: 131; Member since: 22 Feb 2011)
That's why I hope The Waz takes over Apple and brings it back to it was supposed to be. They wanted to make it see there was a Apple on ever desk. They've lost their way though. Now it's all about profit profit profit.
32. Striker (Posts: 92; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
Andy Rubin - plagiarist and thief of the year, congrats!
42. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
what happened? did he steal back the ideas that steve jobs already stole from android? lol how dare they! only apple can steal! :)