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PC vendors may be readying to abandon tablets

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PC vendors may be readying to abandon tablets
This is definitely news that we never expected to see. Apparently, there are rumors that some tablet makers are going to bow out of the race because they don't believe they can compete in a market with the Apple iPad, Amazon Kindle Fire, and Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet. 

Today, the DigiTimes reported that anonymous sources in the component supply chain are saying that HP, Acer, Asustek and Dell may give up on tablets next year. Supposedly, a big reason is that both Amazon and Barnes & Noble are bringing very inexpensive options to market, although even before those tablets hit the market HP, Acer and Dell hadn't been able to gain much market share. We're surprised to see Asus on the list though, because the Transformer was the best selling Android tablet for a time. 

There is also talk that the slowdown in iPad demand is proving that the tablet market as a whole is slowing down, but we're not sure the PC market is the solution to that lag. More likely, all of these devices are finding their niches (and all devices are niche devices now, even traditional laptops,) and the markets are settling. Some manufacturers are also waiting on Windows 8 before making a real run at the tablet game, because Windows 8 is expected to be something of a game-changer. Especially given that it is expected to offer the same apps across tablets and PCs. 

Obviously, time will tell, but what do you guys think: has the tablet market already peaked?

source: DigiTimes via BGR

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posted on 17 Nov 2011, 21:03 9

1. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5638; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


ASUS did well and i'd hate to see them removed from the Tablet space but the others i don't care about. :P

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 21:08 4

2. Netolic (Posts: 142; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


I dont know of you guys read the article in yahoo. Research says consumers only use their tablet once a week. And the prices between laptops and tablets are like a hundred bucks difference. Students will surely pick laptops to make papers

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 21:33 2

3. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


I dont think ASUS will bow out but the others, I can see them waiting instead for Win 8 to come to tablets which will make more sense for them given their history with PCs. I do think that the tablet market will get seriously competitive once Win 8 comes to. For now Ice Cream and iOS will most likely go back and forth with Android once again grabbing some serious market share and Win 8 right behind it with Apple most likely in third.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 00:38 1

15. crankyd00d (Posts: 191; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Wow are you seriously saying Android will beat Windows? THE WINDOWS? Tablets from Apple, Android and the others expensive tablets had their chance, but once Windows 8 is released I see only the iPad surviving the onslaught of tablets/pc carrying it thanks to the zillion of i-sheeep, that and the cheap tablets like the Amazon and B&N

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 21:34 1

4. JGuinan007 (Posts: 638; Member since: 19 May 2011)


If tablets could run the same programs as PCs like auto cad, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Call of duty, Powerpoint, Office, ect thats when we'll see Tablets take off I hear this is what Windows 8 is supposed to do so we'll just have to wait to see in the mean time get a kindle fire its the best quality for the best price

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 22:33 2

6. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 258; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


Beside autocad, office, powerpoint you can't run cod and skyrim on a laptop either if that's not called dell alienware worth 2k bucks...on a i7 920 & nvidia 512mb laptop could barely run wow on high settings.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 23:51

13. sinple (Posts: 115; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)


amazingly, there are auto cad app in the android market

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 22:24 2

5. Shinydesert (Posts: 61; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)


I know it sounds weird,but I enjoy the hell out of my netbook,as of today tablets are not my thing.I don't get what I really need from them.
I had a Dell Streak 7 and I borrowed and iPad2 for a week and like I said,not my thing,maybe someday.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 23:05 2

7. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


There is no tablet market. Only an iPad market.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 23:27 7

11. Whateverman (Posts: 3231; Member since: 17 May 2009)


I think things like this is why so many people have issues with you, I could be wrong.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 23:50 3

12. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5638; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


that's funny but we know you trollin'. >:P

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:13 7

43. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2686; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Taco, you know I always try to be fair with you, but I find it completely unacceptable that you go through Apple articles and ask people to "stop trolling", then post some BS like this.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 23:09 2

8. ILikeBubbles (Posts: 302; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


to me; a tablet is just a giant smartphone... and with phones having 4.65" screens they're not too far away from tablets i don't think. especially the 7" galaxy tab etc.. i think 10.1 is the perfect size for a tablet but when it really comes down to it whatever i'd do on a tab i would just as easily (lol maybe easily) do on my Droid Incredible 2... which is like 3 generations old now i think lol maybe 4... *crosses fingers for another 4" screen to be released*

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 23:11 8

9. remixfa (Posts: 14080; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i think asus was just put on the list because its a PC vendor. they are makin money on the transformer, so i doubt they would bow out. the transformer 2 looks to be a frikkin monster. If it doesnt take top spot, I'd be surprised. Samsung is only ahead at this point because of brand recognition and the extra sales they get by being sold at carriers. the Asus is definitely the better buy (though they are both great tablets, not saying otherwise)

As far as the other guys.. goodbye. Next time dont put out crap products and maybe they will sell.

ya also gotta remember, right now tablets are a niche market. compared to smartphone sales, its a marginal device. we get all excited about this n that, but when you look at scale, tablets are still just a blip on the radar.

posted on 17 Nov 2011, 23:19 1

10. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5638; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


yes, yes, the King concurs! ;D

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 01:26

19. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Only the resident village idiot would say 50+ million tablets sold on a worldwide basis would be considered a niche market.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 01:59 3

21. snowgator (Posts: 3277; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Compared to laptops- yes it is a niche market. That is who the Tablet market (or iPad market if you so choose to keep our Apple readers happy) is competing against. PC makers are sticking to where the largest market is. It may be short sighted. Or, tablets (or iPads only) just may not be the monster seller they were supposed to be. Maybe they will never replace laptops.

{Than snowgator cowers in the corner after making such a suggestion, waiting to be pelted with eggs and rotten fruit...}

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 02:58 2

23. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5638; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


the King values snowgator's input!

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 04:17 1

30. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


> Compared to laptops- yes it is a niche market.

Sorry that is NOT correct. I understand there are a lot of civilians on this site, but niche market has a specific meaning in business. The term refers to custom-made like made-to-order shops or shops with limited production runs. For example, Vertu products would be considered a niche market. It's a niche, it's not meant for mass consumption.

We know the tablet is NOT a niche market because the iPad helped displaced as much as 25% of the laptop and netbook market. Tablets is not a niche market by a long shot.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 06:20 2

32. snowgator (Posts: 3277; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


I'll accept that. Niche was a bad word. Tablets are building their own market. By your reasonable definition they cannot fall into both catagories.

I am just starting to doubt Tablets will really replace laptops. It is still a young market, I know. But Laptops are much more established, much smaller and more powerful than they have ever been before, and are much more available to the average consumer in many more markets.

For that matter, laptops never replaced PC's the way they were predicted to in the late 90's. There is something to be said for sticking with what works.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 08:27 2

39. remixfa (Posts: 14080; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


SG,
Tablets will probably replace laptops, just not as soon as some people hoped. Tablets right now are by and large.. toys. they are not viable for regular every day heavy business use. With neat things like asus's keyboard attachment, that helps, but a tablet OS is not designed for heavy use like a business person would need.
I completly thing that W8 will help push tablets in that direction though. If they are successfull enough they will push apple and android to get more "heavy use" friendly, lest they stay a niche. Apple probably doesnt care though, as its making a fat mint off of what its selling already, so as long as it doesnt start losing sales, iOS probably wont change much.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 08:09 2

36. remixfa (Posts: 14080; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Ardent,
i'm continuing to treat you with respect while you still throw childish insults that are better left for the kindergarden. I also think its funny that you continue to side with taco, yet try to convince people IM the village idiot. Hasnt worked well so far has it? Maybe you should try growing up a little.. mr "businessman" :)

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 08:11 2

37. remixfa (Posts: 14080; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


And for now, niche would be a proper word as its mostly used for gaming and media. But if you want to take offence with that word then how about infantile market.

75 million divided by 7 billion is 1.07% of the worlds population. Not much.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:22 2

44. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2686; Member since: 26 May 2011)


I think that eventually all electronic devices will fit niche markets. The "business meaning" doesn't matter, because we're using 2 of the general dictionary meanings of the word "niche":

1) a place or position suitable or appropriate for a person or thing:
2) a distinct segment of a market.

The days of one-size-fits-all devices is passing, now we have niche devices for all segments. If you need something for directions and short communication there are smartphones, tablets are for content consumption and browsing the web on the toilet, netbooks are for productivity in highly mobile situations, ultrabooks are for productivity in portable situations, laptops are being relegated to productivity in home use, and desktops are for heavy users.

Widespread consumer adoption has no bearing on whether it is a niche device or whether the tablet market is a niche segment. The functionality of the device and how people use the device make it a niche product.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 23:56

50. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


There is a definition for "niche" and there is a definition for "market" but when you use the term "niche market" that is a business term with a specific meaning.

Niche devices is not the same as niche markets. A device does not a market make.



http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/niche+market

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 03:18

24. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Ardent just today remix has said MobileMe was not a cloud service, iPhone doesn't have gorilla glass and iPhone didn't multitask. This despite the fact I provided links to all three subjects showing he was wrong.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 03:51 2

26. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5638; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


MobileMe is actually a cloud service so i guess you were right there but the iPhone doesn't have Gorilla Glass and the iPhone does not truly multitask.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 04:11

29. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


@KingKurogiii

So long as the program (now called app) doesn't close, it's considered multitasking. Basically, when you can run two or more programs at the same time, it was and still is considered multitasking.

My iPod Touch 4 and iPad 2 does multitasking since I can watch a movie, pause, play a game, pause, surf the web, go back to movie where I left off, etc.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 06:27 2

34. snowgator (Posts: 3277; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Ardent, leave the insults out of it. It is not needed. It is a sign you are way too worried about remixfa if you are trying to belittle him instead of just disagreeing with him. Your posts are too intellegent to do that to yourself.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 08:31 2

41. remixfa (Posts: 14080; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


see, now i know your talking about taco. it was nice while he was gone, huh.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 06:26 2

33. mctcm (Posts: 204; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


iphone does not have gorilla glass, you are dead wrong on that.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 08:07 4

35. PhoneArena Team (Posts: 238; Member since: 27 Jun 2006)


And this is really what the news is about, right?

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 08:22 3

38. remixfa (Posts: 14080; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


mobile me is an email syncing service, not a "cloud" service.
if you go back and read my actual comment for once i said "my understanding is that the i4 has gorrilla glass, but it fails drop tests so quickly that it makes it hard to believe"

the iphone didnt multitask. i even used your own article to prove you wrong, because u dont actually read what you post, you just troll because your an idiot with a personal issue with me.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 14:16 1

45. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5638; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


MobileMe does appear to have server based storage so it could be classified as a cloud based service. sorry my friend. the iPhone isn't listed on Cornings site therefore it does not have Gorilla Glass. it might use some other kind of glass like Gorilla Glass though. yeah, i'm pretty sure that iOS does not truly multitask to the extent that Android can. the iPhone 4 was the first device to usher in "multitasking" and it had 256MB of RAM if i'm not mistaken.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 14:37

46. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You trolls can't even get on the same page. One agrees on MobileMe and the other on gorilla glass. Remix in that article you conveniently left out the quote about original iPhone multitasking and chose to ignore twice when I posted it for you.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 14:57 1

47. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5638; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


original iPhone multitasking? do i need to take you back to the iOS 4 announcement in my time machine and make you watch that again? what you and Ardent don't seem to be getting is iOS multitasking is not the same as Android multitasking as everything that runs on Android can be left running in the system's background whereas on iOS the apps running in the background are frozen and they don't do anything until the app is resumed with the exception of some native apps like navigation and playing music but even feature phones can do those things in the background.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 17:38

48. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Original iPhone had no 3rd party apps. Native apps multitasked such as email and iPod app. Therefore it multitasked. The issue came with the app store because Apple didn't allow 3rd party apps to multitask.

The argument is not which is better. Remix amongst others claim Apple somehow copied the idea of multitasking which is ludacris. Original iPhone did multitask with certain apps.

Most apps don't need to run in the background btw. Let's say you're playing a game. If you exit it a freeze state works just fine.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 18:17 1

49. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5638; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


yeah, Feature phones did those things but they were Feature Phones not Smartphones so what's your point? multitasking is when you're doing multiple things at one time what the iPhone does barely scratches the surface. with an Android device we can load a webpage while we do something else, a video can buffer, a tower defense game can play out to it's end, all kinds of things are actually happening in the background of an Android device an iPhone just does one thing with a paused movie to go back to and it can have some tunes playing in the background. i don't call that multitasking i call that prioritizing and if anybody stole multitasking from anybody it wasn't either Google or Apple because multitasking was on both Blackberries and Windows Mobile Devices before them. they were the original classified "Smartphones" if you remember.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 08:28 2

40. remixfa (Posts: 14080; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


and just for the record, that was YESTERDAY. at least get the date right when you are needlessly trolling please.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 00:23 3

14. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5926; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Both Apple and Amazon have existing ecosystems that their respective products can sell into. Google is a bit late to the media market.

But since taco has seen fit to post his drivel about there being only an Apple tablet market, I look forward to watching Amazon turn the tablet market into more than an Apple tablet market. In fact, Amazon is going to be so successful at putting pressure on Apple, that Apple is going to have to release a 7 inch edition to meet the competitive challenge from Amazon's offering. This after Steve managed to draw a line in the sand about 7 inch tablets....

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 01:19

18. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Apple will not be releasing a 7" tablet due to small finger syndrome. The two tablets mentioned are more enhanced e-readers than bona fide tablets. If I am not mistaken, the Fire has no camera, GPS or bluetooth.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 01:58

20. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


I checked the other websites, the screen is 7.35 to 7.85 inches. However because Apple screens tend to be squarish as opposed to being rectangular -- the squarish screen may have as much as 20% to 30% greater viewing area for the same screen size.

The current 7" screen is what I called something borrowed from the GPS industry that is meant to viewed in landscape mode. People who surf the web tend to read pages in portrait mode and devices like Nook Simple Reader or Vizio 8" tablet are best suited for this.

Just a side note about screen sizes. The Pantech Pocket has a 4:3 aspect ratio for is display -- this is important because the Pocket's 4" screen has 20% more display area than the typical 4" screen found in the current android devices. That is to say the screen measurement of 4" is the same but a squarish display will have a larger viewing area than the traditional rectangular display.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 00:59 2

16. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5638; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


i can see Windows 8 Tablets killing Android Tablets.until they get down to 200-300 dollars.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 02:04

22. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Android tablets are currently being sold for less than $100 in mainland China or in India. These tablet cost about $60 to make.

When the android OS is free, the main costs are the display, battery and processor. The remaining parts are very cheap.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 01:07 3

17. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)


Well lemme think,

HP messed it up with the Touchpad
Toshiba messed it up with the Thrive
Dell messed it up with the Streak
LG messed up the Gslate by pricing it to high

Acer did quite well with the Iconia, smooth, cheap, great design, although not the thinnest, they certainly did well.

Asus is probably the winner of the Android tablets, their tablets are great.

Samsung is good, but can\'t justify the fact that their tabs look like more rectangular iPads with no separating feature.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 03:20 1

25. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Don't forget Motorola Xoom bombing and play book being a total failure.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 08:58 4

42. remixfa (Posts: 14080; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


even though hes just trolling, hes actually right. the xoom and the playbook were both failures.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 03:53 1

27. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 636; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Tablet is Apple-only phenomenon, it can't work if it's not Apple iPad.

However, all those manufacturers will eventually have to return to tablet market if they are going to replace PC market.

They tried with tablets in 2003 - tablet was dead before it was even born. Now they are forced again to deal with this thing just because of Apple.

Everything that's happening in the world of technology for the last 4 years is because of Apple - its dominance and control over everything, and others who are busting their asses in effort to follow it.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 05:48

31. CellularNinja (Posts: 303; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)


Yes and no, it may be slowing down temporarily because of the reasons you stated above. But I would bet that as soon as Windows 8 comes, tablets will skyrocket. Not that I don't like android, but I doubt any dad wants to go to the store and buy an android (fairly hard to understand) tablet for there family. For his work? Possibly, but not as a family device, that's why I think their sales struggle, because iPads can be a very good family device. I think Windows 8 tablets will also be! Once the Windows 8 tablets start rolling out (assuming good hardware), I'd give it a year by the time Windows 8 is more prevelant on a tablet than iOS

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