Apple may "revamp" all iOS displays in 2014
1. Ninetysix (Posts: 1681; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Yes please. The only time that I'll switch my GS4 to an iPhone is when they switch to at least a 5" screen.
4. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8924; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Not going yo happen anytime soon. If they jump ship a larger screen size, expect 4.3" at max. Fragmentation will occur if they jump straight into the 5" territory.
72. g2a5b0e (Posts: 2737; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Please explain further, Smurf. The last increase in screen was by .5". Why would they only go to 4.3" at max next time? Also, it would seem to me that making the phone much bigger would allow them to quadruple the resolution (go to 2272x1280) easier. Not saying that that's what Apple is planning on doing, but doubling both dimensions would actually reduce fragmentation, would it not?
16. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 401; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
Hopefully not more then 4.7". I really don't want a larger device than that. They might bring a Phablet as well. Who knows. At least it looks like that Apple is not willing to let the same happen to its tablets as to its iPhones because Apple differentiates its iPads much better and faster than its iPhones.
64. Luuthian (Posts: 219; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
I agree... I'm not a fan of screen sizes greater than 4.5". I like operating my phone efficently with one hand. Operating my old Galaxy Nexus with one hand was a pain in the ass.
2. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8924; Member since: 14 May 2012)
What Apple needs to do is at least offer a display with at least a HD resolution. Who the hell thought it was a good idea to keep 640p in 2013?
5. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8924; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Selling the same display dimensions for three years in a row is what I call stubborn. The hell with this company.
7. brrunopt (Posts: 554; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
no, it's actually being smart.
Because people will always buy the "new" iPhone , and by keeping it the same Apple makes even more money...
12. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
The 5S is my first iPhone. I tried android for 2+ years and with the 5S' 64-bit processor, there's simply no comparison.
I approached some strangers to engage in speed tests using wifi. These android users had the latest smart phones and they were just as curious to see the 5S in action. It was no contest running speed tests on testmyspeed.com or testmy.net (we ran the test 3 times on each site). The 5S is no joke -- it's a beast of a device.
Apple got one thing right with the 5S -- they made sure the end user will have a great web surfing experience.
21. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
a great web surfing experience on a 4" screen? LMAO
Yeah good luck with that, hope you dont get astigmatism staring at that tiny screen. now the nexus 7 2013 is a great web surfing experience.
60. darkkjedii (Posts: 12730; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
The 5S is the best web experience I've had do far, and I own a note 2. It's not just screen size dude. There's cut/copy/paste, text reflow (reader in iOS), sharing from the web, built in dictionary's, fluidity, and text to voice dictation. Tons of variables create the web experience. And just so you know, we're talking phones here. The nexus 7 is a tablet. Let's think before we post.
22. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
This Android guy is using an iPhone 5S for 30 days to compare it with Android:
25. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
So we're supposed to believe total strangers had a speed test against your new phone? ok
30. tedkord (Posts: 5308; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Are you implying that internet speed tests are an indication of processing power?
34. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8924; Member since: 14 May 2012)
You went up to total strangers and ran tests... Yeah ok buddy lol.
iPhones have some of the worst wifi performance of any smartphone. Put an iPhone 5S next to a S4, Oppo Find 5, HTC One, or Note 3 and all will score more than the iPhone does (Speedtest.net app).
EDIT: POST 3000! :D
42. protozeloz (Posts: 5381; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Dude, let's be honest here... I'm tired of people and their "the device x is my first x brand device and its much better than my previous brand y device" anyone with some time posting around here should easily know you have been an apple fanboy from day 1 not only having arguments on how much you love iOS but you also lacked basic android knolege and frequented posted links to what it seemed to be your blog so we would see your post (reason witch got you banned once if I remember correctly). If papa or xperia where the ones posting this I would believe them but since its you I doubt it
54. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8924; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Lol exactly. He tried to sound cool but backfired. Being bias = bad for the soul.
Side note, thanks for mentioning me! Automatic +1 for you.
48. mattmasi303 (Posts: 18; Member since: 04 Jul 2013)
*the latest smartphones* lol sounds like bs to me, and ican run 4 different speed test apps on my home wifi can get way different speeds. You can hand a iphone 5 to any iphone user and call it a 5S and you wouldn't see a difference in how they perform..
63. cc3493 (Posts: 155; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Sure the 64-bit is an innovation but it does nothing else when the phone only has 1gb of ram, same as last gen. There are not many apps that will even use the 64-bit benefits so sure there is no comparison but if you cant even use the benefits then whats the point of the 64 bit stuff? Its marketing gimmick and allows them to price the phone higher
8. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
You can call it stubborn, but the customer satisfaction numbers continue to be "through the roof" of any leading flag ship smartphone.
10. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8924; Member since: 14 May 2012)
I see your point, but for a company that brags about them having the most innovative OS in the world, it can't support 720p resolution for their smart phones. The iPhone needs a complete 360 in design, inside and out.
17. sipha (Posts: 328; Member since: 12 May 2012)
yeah, completely agree the should have atleast introduced a 720p resolution this year so the apps could catch up with new resolution..and then jump 4.3" screen in 2014!! [or even 4.5"]
23. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)
What do you mean a 360 in design *inside* and out though? You do not consider the A7 to be worthwhile? I think they are doing pretty darn well on the innards, since they started doing their own silicon designs. The A7 is a beast despite running at only 1.3Ghz and being Dual Core.
36. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8924; Member since: 14 May 2012)
No, I don't. Design, screen size, screen resolution, NFC, larger battery capacity, and camera all need to change with the new iPhone. The whole rehashing things from last model is doing more harm than good. And don't even bother playing the "9 million iPhones sold" card. It was 9 million shipped.
68. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8924; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Ask any iPhone user what they want in the next gen iPhone. I can guarantee you at least three of what I said will be mentioned.
70. Leo_MC (Posts: 603; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)
Can I answer as an old iPhone user that didn't get 5, waiting for the 5s?
Design - 5s is beautiful; there's no other phone I would like best; Moto X is a distant second and BB Q10 a 3rd.
Screen resolution - I won't say no but I see no real benefits from it except, maybe, when you're zooming the text (which I - and 99% of users - don't do).
Larger battery - yes; I don't care about capacity; I'm ok with a 100 mAh battery if it powers my phone for a week; I don't need 5k mAh.
Camera - let aside Nokia, the one in 5s is the best (see PA test today); if anyone should want a better camera, should be anyone else but iPhone users.
NFC - meh, I have no use for it; I have BT, WiFi, internet; why would I want a different kind of infrared?!
33. 9thWonderful (Posts: 232; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)
says you, the average salary commenter on a cell phone forum...yet w/out 720p resolution & a so-called outdated OS Apple continues to hit solid figures in terms of money made from iPhone alone & contains a very loyal customer base. numbers show that they don't need a 360 redesign...at least not yet.
14. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1900; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Lots of people like Miley Cyrus, what's that say?
19. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
Of course it's going to have high customer satisfaction because it's the SAME PHONE EVERY YEAR. And as far as those speed test. Look man for god sake the os is limited.How do you think it will do in a speed test. I notice you didn't mention features on the 5s. Because that's it's main weak point. Thise people with those flagships could probably care less about some speed test. They are too busy with multi windows and real multitasking.
26. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)
You mistake ease of use and simplicity, with 'limited'. That is not why the device is fast. You know iOS is derived from OSX (as in UNIX)... the fact the front end is simple and easy to use does not make the OS itself "limited".
27. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
It's actually limited. Basic tasks are much simpler and easier on Android.
29. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)
This >was the point.
This >is you.
See how they are not near each other?
31. tedkord (Posts: 5308; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
The fact that so much functionality is left or makes it limited.
49. mattmasi303 (Posts: 18; Member since: 04 Jul 2013)
They claim to be leading in innovation and have the most advanced OS. Hm 2013 with a none HD 4inch screen a hardware design that has been around 4 generations (5S), Customer satisfaction is because people like what they know so well, most never even attempt android and just follow apple like apple is daddy and daddy knows best. please..
66. Leo_MC (Posts: 603; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)
I can't believe that in 2013 no smartphone is able to deliver a corkscrew...
They are soooo limited.
6. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
The iPhone 6 ought to be 4.3" and still adhere to Apple's one-hand usage design principle. I have the mini, and I get much better web surfing experience than a smartphone.
I really like my smartphone to be thin, light, and portable. My iPhone 5S weighs 5 oz with my Magpul case, and can fit in my front pant pocket, my jacket, etc.
9. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8924; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Whatever works for you, get it. But in all honestly, not trolling here, do you ever wish your display was at least 720p to watch videos movies in HD?
15. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 401; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
I'd surely like to have HD resolution on my device. No doubt about that. But I really like the screen Apple is offering so far for the iPhone. Movies look still great on the device. I wonder how much would change when the resolution is increased to HD.
67. Leo_MC (Posts: 603; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)
I am watching movies... on my 1.5 m TV; I have never thought "boy if I would have had a HD screen, I would have watched the entire Avatar on my phone".
71. Leo_MC (Posts: 603; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)
You should ask yourself if you have a point.
13. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 401; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
I totally agree with you. 4.7" would be the max size I would buy. Everything else is not portable enough for me. Still, I hope Apple is going to offer a kind of Phablet device so that it can also satisfy customers that demand a larger screen.
11. underbc (Posts: 22; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)
Next year .. next year ..
Always the same story of brand new design .. and all new things new year ..
Please .. I like Apple. I have a macbook pro and a galaxy nexus .. but stop with this bullsh*t. They will not do any new brand new design. Just a revamp ..
18. fistigons (Posts: 263; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
I think if Apple does change their design it's going to look like the Apple Touch.
20. darkkjedii (Posts: 12730; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
These things are a given, part of the reason the 64 bit A7 came to life. The phablet sector is basically mature, thanx to Samsung. Apple will release one, and they and Sammy will rule the phablet sector. Sorry LG, and HTC but the big dawg is coming to join the other big dawg.
38. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8924; Member since: 14 May 2012)
darkk, as much as I want to agree with you, there's no way Apple will release an iPhone with a screen size greater than 4.3". The fragmentation process would be horrid for developers.
46. darkkjedii (Posts: 12730; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Smurf, I think apples gonna go more with the trend. According to sources, they're testing up to 6 in. screens. Who knows bro?
51. mattmasi303 (Posts: 18; Member since: 04 Jul 2013)
haha thats all talk because the biggest phone they have ever made since 2007 is 4inch? and your thinking they will go over 4.3 soon?
57. darkkjedii (Posts: 12730; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Let me ask you this, and please answer it as a techie. Now that the phablet market has matured, and it's a big seller, do you really think apple won't release a phablet knowing it'll instantly sell 30 million + units?
56. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8924; Member since: 14 May 2012)
I just pictured someone holding an iPad Mini to their ear while making a phone call when you said up to 6in. lol.
But seriously though, if Apple is going to do anything to screen size, it will most likely be 4.3', which by all means isn't special, but definitely a step in the right direction.
53. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
I used to think that same way but the more I look at it, Apple could release a phablet without those problems. When they released the iPad Mini, there weren't any problems with the apps. If Apple released a new device (phablet) and not just upgrade a current device, developers could have apps ready out of the gate. Let's face it, one of the reasons the OG iPad took off immediately was it had a huge app arsenal from the first day of release.
What I'd like to see from them is an iPad, iPad Mini, iPhone, and iPhablet, and all of them having the same build concepts/quality. Drop the 5C, it's not working. I was totally wrong about the 5C selling in high demand and kinda glad I was wrong. Apple took the easy route with the 5C and should put the effort into making a new device instead of just re-branding last years phone.
55. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8924; Member since: 14 May 2012)
There weren't any problems with apps because the screen on the iPad Mini had the same resolution the iPad 2 had.
New iPhone screen size = developers having to update their apps for the new resolution. Apple isn't going to release a phablet anytime soon. What would be the point of the iPad Mini if they did? And the iPhone 5C was a complete fail. T-Mobile never sold out of any models, as the same with Best Buy. No one was buying them but were still buying the iPhone 5's that were available. People aren't dumb, they know what's good from what isn't.
58. darkkjedii (Posts: 12730; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Well Smurf the point would be that the mini is a tablet. A phablet would have the phone capability, be smaller, and more convenient. Samsung has the 5.7 6.3 7.0 and 8.0.
24. keithrandy (Posts: 21; Member since: 05 Feb 2010)
I call bullsh*t on this one. Apple just changed their screen size within the last year and a half and there are still apps out there that aren't updated to the new screen size. Changing the screen, again, next year would only set more developers back. Maybe in the next two years or so, but I'm certain you won't see a new screen size on the iPhone 6.
37. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8924; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Apple is definitely going to change the screen size, and face fragmentation all over again. They need to. In the age where 4" is getting tiring, and where the 5S was the smallest incremental update over the 5, if they don't change the iPhone like they did with the 4 or 5, Apple will lose a lot of sales. This is me not being biased, but telling it like it is.
Btw, 20 posts since Feb of 2010. That's something I don't see everyday.