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Apple hire may bring widget/live tile-like app icons to iOS

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Apple hire may bring widget/live tile-like app icons to iOS
As we've mentioned before, Apple doesn't like to bring major changes to the UI of iOS, and prefers to iterate slowly, so the focus remains on the apps, but a new hire may be pointing to some very interesting changes in the future. We've already seen how Apple hiring developer Peter Hajas directly led to a much improved notification system, and the newest hire may bring similar changes to the iOS UI. 

The new hire is Jan-Michael Cart, who is most well known for posting very impressive concept videos online. He is a mass media arts student in Georgia and announced that he was hired as a design intern at Apple. Cart has put together videos for various systems including different multitouch gestures, but the most impressive and the one we'd like to see incorporated into iOS is the Dynamic Icons concept. As you'll see in the video below, the idea is basically to transform iOS's app icons into Applefied Live Tiles like you'd see in Windows Phone 7. The app icons would change based on notifications, and icons could be zoomed into for a more widget-like feel with updating info. 

The ideas may be things we've seen in other platforms, but Cart's video definitely has that Apple feel to it, showing he understands the design philosophy that Apple tries to adhere to. He may just be an intern scheduled to work for 7 months, but we're hoping that these ideas make their way into iOS. 


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posted on 13 Dec 2011, 15:56 31

1. Meth7 (Posts: 20; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


Good job Apple! Maybe it's your turn to get sued.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:00 4

3. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


No! They are taking something that already exists widgets and implementing it in a completly new and I think better way. Its a clean design that makes naturual sense to a user. Apple is on its way to improving their platform with these very creative minds on board.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:38 8

13. sgogeta4 (Posts: 391; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)


A delusion is a false belief held with absolute conviction despite superior evidence. Unlike hallucinations, delusions are always pathological...

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 17:49 2

20. networkdood (Posts: 6260; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


biophone is joking around....

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 20:27 3

34. Kjayhawk (Posts: 284; Member since: 07 Oct 2010)


Biophone this is a concept video, if apple does plan to use widgets you can almost gurantee that apples final product will look nothing like this. It will probably be a half ass concept like the iPhones notification system.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 21:36 4

36. RageQuit (Posts: 41; Member since: 05 Sep 2011)


If apple can sue for things they didnt invent why doesnt it work the other way around. I dub it the Apple phenomenon.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 22:13 2

39. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Mac had widgets before android. Sorry

posted on 14 Dec 2011, 08:09

50. Eingild (Posts: 203; Member since: 19 Apr 2011)


Linux had widgets before Mac OS. Sorry

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:02 6

4. E.N. (Posts: 2231; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


I don't see Apple getting sued for this. And hopefully the video is very preliminary because although a very good idea, the implementation isn't the best. But this is probably a very early "prototype"

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:45 7

14. Contreramanjaro (Posts: 153; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)


I wouldn't call this a prototype and it 100% isn't from Apple. It's just a concept, there are tons of people that make videos like this. This guy is just really good at it and Apple won't get sued. The idea of dynamic tiles has been around for ages. The challenge is getting it to work on the iOS interface which is used by less than computer savvy soccer mom's as well as the technologically competent.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 17:26

19. E.N. (Posts: 2231; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


When I said prototype I didn't mean first ever made (hence the quotations), but just a very early version for iOS. I think we're on the same page.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 18:10

26. DetroitTech (Posts: 55; Member since: 02 Nov 2011)


"less than computer savvy soccer mom's..." I like that. And it's true. However you will fine more technologically competent people on the "other OS". But I'm sure there are some using iOS. But less and less as jailbreaking seems to be fading away...

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:50 2

16. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)


Um...from everything I could tell, this video isn't from Apple. This is more speculation than it is absolute fact. So...yeah maybe we should wait for Apple to actually take action before we talk about suing...

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 17:09 4

18. andro. (Posts: 1936; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Apple don't copy ever,everyone always copies apple even kenwood and morphy richards have obviously copied apples phones with their breakfast toaster ranges. The sooner the world submits to this madness then apple will cease sueing

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 18:17 3

28. christianqwerty (Posts: 460; Member since: 05 May 2011)


People are okay with google creating a new voice assistant,l but if apple tries to make widgets, by god the world is ending. Geez. Truth is, apple, rim, microsoft , google, ect, they all take ideas for each other. Whether apple wants to admit it, they take ideas too. So can we stop the blame game please.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 22:39 1

41. bigboy029 (Posts: 74; Member since: 03 Jan 2011)


Thank you!!!

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 23:44 2

43. tedkord (Posts: 4467; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It's called hypocrisy. It's like when a "family values" politician gets caught with underage prostitutes. Apple spends so much time yelling hysterically that everyone else is just copying off them, its only natural that people are going to spot the hypocrisy when they're blatantly copying Android notifications, or widgets, or whayever.

If Apple doesn't want to be called a hypocrite, then they shouldn't act like one.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 21:57 3

38. hepresearch (unregistered)


Nah... you don't get it! Once the next version of iOS emerges with "live tiles", Microsoft will be the one getting sued...

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 15:58 2

2. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Love it good hire apple. I am excited because this will be great with the bigger screen of the iphone 5. Typical apple move in refining something that already exists. Ios 5 brought notifications ios 6 dynamic icons.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:10 10

6. kainy (Posts: 165; Member since: 10 Aug 2011)


Dude get real ... that sucked :D

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:23 3

12. Whateverman (Posts: 3187; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Big time!

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 17:55 3

24. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


I liked it. Widgets left page like mac to go along would be nice.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:56

17. Contreramanjaro (Posts: 153; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)


There was a hell of a lot more to iOS 5 than notifications. iOS 6 will need a lot more than that when Steve Jo.... I... it's gonna have to be magnificent because the only person on the planet that could convince me something old is magical is gone. Wow, this ended up being a much sadder comment than I thought it would be.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 23:08 1

42. hepresearch (unregistered)


Microsoft, under Bill Gates, steals the idea for Windows from Apple by copying their original MacIntosh OS...

Steve Jobs (paraphrased): We look for great ideas from others, and then COPY with pride!

iOS revolutionizes touch screen technology... Apple patents it, claims invention and innovation as well, and then sues everyone else, including the actual prior developers of the technology.

Android mimics iOS... Apple and the iFans are enraged! Google is a blatant copy-cat! They must be stopped!

WebOS mimics iOS... Apple and the iFans are surprised. How in the world did Palm do that? They are so small, and this is all Sprint can do to try to compete. That is cool and all, but it won't go anywhere.

WP7 mimics iOS... Apple and the iFans are happy. WP7 is sufficiently ugly and featureless that iFans everywhere claim that it is the "natural" and "appropriate" competitor for iOS.

iOS mimics WP7... Apple and the iFans are "refining with pride"! Microsoft has become a victim of poetic justice...

=8-P

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:09 1

5. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Anyway i like jan's other video about how to implement widgets. Where you slide to the left for widgets where search is. It would be just like the mac's widgets.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:14 4

7. JesterB (Posts: 17; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)


windows live tiles?

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:14 3

8. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


just looks like a 2x2 widget to me. i dont think the idea could be implemented effectively on an iphone's 3.5" screens. thats why i prefer larger screens, more room for widgets xD.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:18 3

9. Kmack (Posts: 26; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)


my peice of crap blackberry does that. New notifications come in, and the icon changes..

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:19 1

10. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5555; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


it's an interesting prospect.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 17:56 1

25. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Agreed.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:23 3

11. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Great! Apple cashing in on the "live tile" idea. Who'll be next, Android? They're all going after MS and I hope they all get sued for copying!

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:46 7

15. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5555; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


Tiles are pretty much just Widgets bro. it wasn't the beginning of a revolution.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 17:49 1

21. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Widgets are "dead". Tiles are "live". No need for pull down notifications. Tiles tell you all. It is a revolution!

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 23:50 1

44. tedkord (Posts: 4467; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Yeah, not so much. Most widgets on my screen live update as the info changes. The only innovation MS had there was making them all quadrangles, with text that runs off, and making the UI ugly as hell.

posted on 14 Dec 2011, 01:26 1

48. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5555; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


most Widgets are actually live guy. take the famous Sense Clock for instance, it's always updating Weather Conditions. the only difference between Tiles and Widgets is that Tiles are actually used as the primary App Launcher and Widgets are not.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 17:50 6

22. networkdood (Posts: 6260; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


WOW!!! This is very innovative. No one has ever tried this before.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 17:50

23. protozeloz (Posts: 5371; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I think My Idea is better (what an ego I have) gimme a couple of minutes and I'll post it Here I'd like to hear some toughs

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 19:05 4

31. protozeloz (Posts: 5371; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Here it Is, Tell me what you think :3 I'm not a concept designer so it wont be pretty
http://goo.gl/JI6Yk

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 19:35 1

32. Contreramanjaro (Posts: 153; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)


It's not a bad idea but I think it sort of goes against the app based design of the iOS UI. When I think of iOS I think of each app as an isolated experience. This would, as I assume have to run along side the OS. As I've read iOS doesn't really do parallel processing like Android, neither does WP7. It seems like it'd be hard to allow something like this to run in the background and if it's started each time you tap it, don't you think it would be delayed.

The main difference with this and the dynamic tiles deal IMO is that the tiles use notifications on the system, so a process that is already part of the UI, yours would require a whole new set of developer tools to be released by apple. I honestly think your design would find a better home on something like Android which allows background tasks to occur.

And I think the icons changing thing (covers on music app tile) would cause unnecessary confusion when looking for a specific app, I always look for the picture over the words. If the picture is different it can delay my search.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 20:10 1

33. protozeloz (Posts: 5371; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


My Idea Involved that some things might need to be changed, maybe will be jumping on Quad cores really soon so I though this could give the chance for the OS to use up that power, changing Icons was an Idea I though would be Nice as a final touch, I don't know you but if I had this widgets I'll probably have them on the same place instead of around the Launcher so I can see the info they provide in one place. what i don't like about this idea its that its dealing with small icons while titles are rather spacious and go around the whole UI, Icons might not loot that Nice or represent a challenge for devs into making the most use of the space witch night be a bit reduced.

I guess some things wont fit too well, but thanks for your time and your though :D

posted on 14 Dec 2011, 00:43 2

45. bbblader (Posts: 575; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


you shouldnt have done this apple will steal it and sue you too

posted on 14 Dec 2011, 11:46

52. networkdood (Posts: 6260; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Very good. Please submit your application and idea to APPLE so that the company will turn you down and then later copy the idea for iOS 6.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 18:17 1

27. christianqwerty (Posts: 460; Member since: 05 May 2011)


People are okay with google creating a new voice assistant,l but if apple tries to make widgets, by god the world is ending. Geez. Truth is, apple, rim, microsoft , google, ect, they all take ideas for each other. Whether apple wants to admit it, they take ideas too. So can we stop the blame game please.

posted on 14 Dec 2011, 01:28 1

49. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5555; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


people are okay with Google taking ideas because they don't swear up and down that they don't like Apple does with their hypocritical lawsuits.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 18:38

29. denney (Posts: 98; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


The problem with this is the bugs it is going to bring to iOS. Apple has trouble implementing complicated code into its platform, not because they're incompetent, but because they know that they would compromise the devices streamlined preformance. The reason why android is buggy and inefficient at times is because the UI is not effectively build around its apps, but the apps are built around the UI. This implementation in iOS will cause problems. I hope they effectively polish this idea before release or iOS 5.whatever will be laggy and PA wont be able to speak so highly of the OS fluidity anymore.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 19:00 1

30. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


If ever, this would be a good addition to an already awesome iphone :)

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 20:34 4

35. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


so.. android uses widgets.. WP7 took the widgets idea and morphed it into "live tiles"... this concept is really just live tiles... with a zooming capability. yay. its a concept, there is no proof this is going into iOS6, and its just a rumor. dont get your panties in a bunch guys.
Im just waiting for.. when this does get released, and our local apple trolls go crazy saying how its the next big thing and now everyone is going to copy apple... kinda like they do now. but like always someone else had it first. Not a big deal. If anyone didnt expect this kind of expansion, then they are crazy.. even iOS has to keep up with others or be left behind.

Everyone copies.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 22:19

40. Pdubb (Posts: 239; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)


I think that if Apple does this it will be the beginning of the end. Hear me out before you dismiss me as CRAZY. At the moment no one cares about WP7, if Apple uses this tile thing then suddenly iOS users will be somewhat familiar with WP7. Then you add the simplicity of WP7(reviewers words-I have not owned one yet) and the variety of devices and suddenly it becomes the big three for real. Apple should leave their interface alone and just improve the design and speed or something like that. This could bring a problem for Apple.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 21:54

37. thebikerboi2 (Posts: 144; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)


Looks good but I would prefer it if there was a widget centre off the main screen like the widgets in the notifications centre

posted on 14 Dec 2011, 00:45 1

46. bbblader (Posts: 575; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


OMGOD! this is the best thing ever! Widgets!A brand new thing that no phones have!Even the s40 ones! its the most revolutional thing in the world! Apple 4never!

posted on 14 Dec 2011, 00:57

47. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)


He is hired by apple. And made also other concept vids. So stop talking like widgets is the only thing he did.

posted on 14 Dec 2011, 10:16

51. skywalker4711 (Posts: 10; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)


HAHAHAHAHA.

Wow. Further proof that these companies ALL copy each other.

Fanboys, please grow up. Open your eyes.

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