Apple claims the capacity of the batteries on the iPhone 5s, iPhone 5c went up. But by how much?
With all the hoopla around Apple and its newly outed iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c, the eagle-eyed among you may have noticed one particular omission from the specs list that we provided – the battery size. This is because Apple traditionally doesn't disclose the exact capacity of the Li-ion battery units that power the iDevices, for whatever reason. What Apple instead does, is it simply announces that the battery life of their new devices has been improved, compared to their respective predecessor, without getting into details.
Fortunately, there's a way around, and the folks behind AnandTech have extrapolated the battery capacity of both the iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c from their respective FCC listings, using a simple formula. So we now have a pretty accurate info on the exact size of the batteries: a 1570mAh battery for the iPhone 5s and 1508mAh for the iPhone 5c. Compared with the iPhone 5's 1440mAh unit, that gives us an increase of 9% in the case of the iPhone 5s, and a more frugal 4.7%, as far as the iPhone 5c is concerned.
To put the above in perspective, the battery on the Samsung Galaxy S4 went up 24% (2100mAh → 2600mAh), compared with the S3, while Sony Z1's went up an even more impressive 29% (2330mAh → 3000mAh). Having said that, do keep in mind that battery size isn't directly proportional to longevity – while the batteries on the new iPhones appear tiny next to the above, the latter is far less power-hungry, both because of the software and hardware.
source: FCC via AnandTech
1. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2695; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Oh really!!! By 4.7% and 9%, is that so...
PA added Posts and Member since beside username, nice work...
10. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3013; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Apple improved the battery by 'S' much...
Burn that 64-bit table and let's see how long it lasts.
28. akki20892 (Posts: 3566; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Brain-wash people think this is awesome......!!!
32. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5876; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
"PA added Posts and Member nice beside username, nice work..."
Now all they need to do is remove the time limit on editing posts. Just put an edited on date & time stamp on the edited post (like just about every other blog site) and that will be a HUGE improvement.
35. THE.DARK.KNIGHT (banned) (Posts: 269; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)
Software optimization? We all know apple is good with that. I think battery life should be pretty good.
2. HalaMadrid (Posts: 92; Member since: 04 Sep 2013)
iPhone 5 battery is worst it fully drain in 1:30 hours while playing FIFA 13
5. Ninetysix (Posts: 1661; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Right and the Nexus 4 has an awesome battery life.
(click on expand in each test).
16. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5482; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
iPhone 5 has not bad results but at the same time not good considering that it has only 4 inch screen and lover than HD resolution. And talking about the talk time results, it is total shame!
34. THE.DARK.KNIGHT (banned) (Posts: 269; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)
At 330 ppi and 400nits brightness it's one of the best screens you will ever see.
36. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5482; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
How is that related with my comment #16 ?
50. blingblingthing (Posts: 444; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
One of the best screens?
Being 4 inches ( not even midranged in my book). Sub HD with a pixel density on par with what an iPhone 4 did when it launched, you really are telling me this is one of today's best displays?
51. HalaMadrid (Posts: 92; Member since: 04 Sep 2013)
Nexus 4 web browsing and video playback time is hilarious lol
52. HalaMadrid (Posts: 92; Member since: 04 Sep 2013)
Iphone 5 gave me good battery life while web browsing and it charges very quickly but really sucks while playing FIFA 13
8. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 847; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
May be it has something to do with the app/game itself???? Like fb app draining battery.
11. darkkjedii (Posts: 12005; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
C'mon dude, we're not buying that. Show proof, during the hour and fifteen minutes I workout, I leave the screen auto lock set to never and play music. It only drops about 5-7%. You are lying.
26. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 1039; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
You're seriously comparing screen on/music to playing a game?
I'm not saying he's telling the truth perse. But you can't compare playing music to playing a game, not even close.
39. Sauce (unregistered)
He can if he's streaming music and using LTE. There's a difference between playing your iPod and playing Spotify, Pandora, iTunes Radio, Rdio, etc etc.....
60. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1600; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
That's very true, but it still isn't as resource intensive as playing a game. With streaming music with the screen on I'd imagine the components active would be the display (displaying a static image and changing during the next song), the radios (wifi or LTE), the file manager, and the speakers.
With a game you're looking at the display, the screen touch input, the gpu (has to work much harder to display motion images vs a single image), the file manager, the speakers, and the radios (if the game is online play).
Even comparing streaming music with the display on vs game play offline, there is still more resources being used for gaming. The resources to register touch inputs and the gpu make a big difference. I'm not saying a phone utilizing any other OS would be any better either. The reason most android phones have such larger batteries is due to true multitasking and a larger, higher resolution display. But in many cases even with that larger battery will bring them to parity with an ios device simply because the larger display will draw more. The only exceptions would be phones like the Maxx series and those with extended batteries (3000 mAh+). It's not a knock against the iphone, I'm simply stating that it is possible that the OP's experience could have happened.
29. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1600; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
It is possible for both of you to be right. While your screen may be locked on, you are not interacting with the touchscreen itself like youwould if you were playing a game. Everytime he'd do a press to make the game do something, that's a function the phone has to carry out. Whereas playing music, until it gets to the next song, you're only having it play music and keep the screen lit, but in that same amount of time (say 3-4 minutes) he might have made up to 500 functions playing that game.
It would really all depend on the game being played as well. Games like FIFA 13 or Call of Duty will obviously require more button presses and display more intense graphics than say Angry Birds or solitaire. That's another thing, when your playing music you most likely have a static screen displaying the album cover. But playing a game would bring the gpu heavily into play as well, much more so than a static image.
I'm not saying he couldn't be lying, but you gotta really compare apples to apples (bad pun I know).
57. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1619; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Why set to never? Oh, probably because it can't play music while locked. Or you have to actually unlock it to change a song and can't directly from the lockscreen AHAAHHAHA DROID DOES
59. darkkjedii (Posts: 12005; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I would explain why I set it to never, but why even bother...
3. MalakiMills (Posts: 256; Member since: 15 Jun 2010)
Wondering what that A7 will produce in for battery life once the reviews come out.
4. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4216; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yeah the iPhone hasn't had good battery life since the iPhone 4S.
7. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 847; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
IPhone have decent battery life not great though.
but it's pretty decent achievement since their using such a lower capacity battery and still managed to give more than a day on average usage.
I always love the way Apple's hardware works with it's software.
20. Taters (Posts: 3287; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
I think you give them too much credit. If an LG G2 was running IOS on a 3000 may battery it would last twice as long as the iPhone 5. IOS is just wimpy non power hungry skin. Don't give them credit for being so linear with their software and hardware and see it as what it truly is. Apple copping out and creating a great scam. Make your software so limited and simple that it doesn't require powerful hardware or big batteries but charge people octa core and 4000 mah prices and keep all the profits without passing any of the savings on to the consumers, ever.
40. Sauce (unregistered)
If an iPhone 5S was running iOS7 on a 3000 bat, it would surely last twice as long too. Lmfao.
62. Taters (Posts: 3287; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Yes and that was my point. Lol its not good hardware and software. Its just software.
55. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
You have no idea what you're talking about.
9. Slammer (Posts: 1081; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
My age prevents me from being a game addict, but, my nephews have acknowledged some annoyance with having to be tethered to a charger after about 4 hours of gaming with their iphones. Their Android counter parts have begun to find solitude in being able to swap out batteries when chargers are not readily available.
Wsh list for Apple from some of these people: Give them battery access.
12. taikucing (unregistered)
holy crap..the capacity went up by 50 mAh. It's too much
13. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
I have to admit... I think the 5s is a sick phone and I cant wait to get my hands on it next week. This phone offeres everything, with the exception of a larger screen, that most apple fans wanted. I'm 100% going to buy it!
Oh.. and the batter life of all my apple devices has always riocked!
14. joey_sfb (Posts: 3006; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
you meant a sleek phone? have fun with your new iPhone 5s
15. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
Where I'm from sick is just slang for awesome.
21. darkkjedii (Posts: 12005; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Can't wait Dave. I bigger screen is a want not a must have . The fact that I still have my note 2 fills that void. The ip5s is sick and I'm all in. +1
30. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
Thats what I'm talking about DK!!!
Geez man... only a little more than a week away before you tie the knot man!!! Many blessings to the begging of your new life!
My wife and I recently celebrated our 4yr. We have also been celebrating the recent birth of our twins =) Life is good!!!!!
41. darkkjedii (Posts: 12005; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Congrats on both bro, I'm a nervous Nellie lol, but ready. She's been a blessing to me, I'm lucky to have her. +1 bro
42. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
Dont be nervous... Trust me... when you find the right person it all just comes together. It will be the best decision you will ever make =)
Also ment to say blessing not begging in my op. I type way to fast for my own good =P
43. darkkjedii (Posts: 12005; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Lol +1. I keep trying to fool myself into not thinking I am, but I am lol. What color 5S are you getting? I hooked on the gold one...gorgeous.
54. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
I was think I would get the gold one myself but I'm really starting to like the silver.
22. joey_sfb (Posts: 3006; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Wow! didn't know that!! I will be getting my Note 3 when launch still thinking of whether i should buy the Galaxy gear as well. Chance are high as they are giving discount for combo purchase...hmm..
Best time of the year for gadget fan.
31. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
Right on Joey!
You cant go wrong with having the best of both worlds!
44. darkkjedii (Posts: 12005; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I think you should get both, it'll enhance the experience. Do a thorough review please?
17. LiquidGalaxy (Posts: 214; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
I'm not exactly a heavy user and I don't play games on my phone (have my iPad for that), but i managed 2 and half days standby time on my 5 when i had it...Not sure what people are using their phones for that drains the battery so quickly?? :S
24. Taters (Posts: 3287; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Mainly from power use. Like gaming and heavy browsing sessions. My work iPhone dies pretty quick. Most phones do though to be fair. I think only the Note 2 and some Motorola phones are immune to this. I guess the G2 might be in this club now.
Every other phone though, doesn't last if you power use it. That is why people want removable batteries in Asia.
18. jb4674 (Posts: 140; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Battery life on an iPhone is and has always been a joke.
19. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
In a few days iFixit will know exactly what size the battery is.
25. Chris.P (Posts: 292; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)
Probably something along the lines of... 1570mAh for the 5s and 1510mAh for the 5c?
49. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
Extrapolated or actual? Not necessarily the same thing.
27. twens (Posts: 674; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
Why do Apple fans lie about battery life. When I cracked my note 2's screen and sent it for repairs I started using my girlfriends iPhone 5.battery life was terrible. I had to charge it almost all the time. You guys should stop lying just because you love Apple. Apple don't care about you, if you run out of juice and miss important calls and messages Apple don't care. My note 2 never disappoints me.
45. darkkjedii (Posts: 12005; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
So you think Samsung cares about you, or your money? Your post made no sense at all. You coulda simply said, your note 2 gets great battery life.
47. Slammer (Posts: 1081; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
My G4 is getting fairly good battery life. However, I admit, when it comes to these companies, no one is spared by the phone marketing tactics. I prefer to have removable batteries until the battery manufacturers get their crap together and make them more stable and failsafe. Until then, sealing the battery is the manufacturers basically telling the consumers FU. Give us dollars and we will fix it. To me, this is worse than "I get more life out of my battery than you" argument.
56. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Your note 2 has a battery the size of an entire iPhone. What do you expect? Most people aren't willing to trade battery life for cumbersome size and cheap build quality.
58. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1619; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Cumbersome? You obviously have never used a Note. Yea that thing is a bit big, but I will never go back to a smaller screen after my amazing Note 2. It. will change you, same as it has for Darkjedi, he won't even give up his just for the fact of the larger screen, and hes the biggest Apple nerd/follower here.
37. xtian1103 (Posts: 361; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
battery life on iphones has always been good but not really great. it's only last year and this year android oem's beginning to realize how much of a battery hog their devices are that's why 2500mah on a 1080p android phone should be mandatory. and always kill apps if you have task killers
38. PhoneCritic (Posts: 360; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
I must admit as a former iPhone 4 user the battery life was pretty bad. Why because the iPhone 4, to me, was a beautiful phone I could not keep my hands off it. I would reach out for it even if I did not have to - just to turn it on and admire its beauty which in turn meant it used more battery with the constant turning on and off the constant checking of mail and web surfing etc.. it would not make it through a day without me having to charge it. Maybe twice during that day (morning & mid afternoon). But, I did not mind because it was and still is a very iconic piece of art for a mobile device. Today I have the HTC one and I do the same thing Because in my opinion it is the most beautiful Android device I have seen ( it in may ways not only rivals the iPhone 4 but, in my opinion, better designed ) It has a decent battery life it will last a day if I have it in full power mode. On battey saver I can get a day and a half. However, I also have from work a Motorola droid Razor Maxx ( I also think it's design is beautiful in a industrial way) and hands down it is the king of battery life. I can use it heavily for two day straight and still have juice to make it almost to the 3rd day without charging it. That is where Motorola kills the competition .
63. jacko1977 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
bigger battery to zap people and kill them or put them in hospital