AT&T sux (unregistered)
AT&T's 3g sucks!! They better get started on LTE immediately
ATT is... (unregistered)
Verizon has announced to their ployees that need to know that 4g is almost available, we are looking into launching networkd wide in the next 2 years
"Almost" means in the next two years? Wow.
I guess I'll have some decisions to make next time my girlfriend tells me dinner is "almost" ready.
Well when your girlfriend starts cooking for 80 million people nationwide, then maybe I'd take your argument seriously.
What argument? Are you seriously going to try to tell me that 4G arriving in 2 years for VZW means it's almost out? Let me know when they at least have a test city up and running. LTE may very well be the future, but the future is not now.
Er .. an argument is not necessarily anger related. Its any statement that someone makes, that they stand by. Assuming you stand by what you said, you did indeed make an argument.
4G will be released NATIONWIDE, within the next two years. Last I heard test cities will be running sometime in the first half of 2009. Less than a year sounds like a pretty near future to me. Hell, even some of Verizon's best known features still aren't nationwide, so to have something as big as 4G UP AND RUNNING NATION/NETWORK WIDE, within the next two years is a pretty viable and commendable achievement.
Verizon needs LTE. AT&T can refine EDGE and also HSPA for faster Download/Upload speeds. Verizon is not planning on going Rev B or C so there is no chance of refining it's current EVDO network. In 2 Yrs AT&T should have it's 3G network covering 80%+ of the US and it will be faster than EVDO. To stay competitive, Verizon will push LTE out there as soon as possible, or it can take the Canadian CDMA carrier route and switch to HSPA. As for CDMA being a dead technology, analog was born 1983 and come 2008 we shut it off?
I don't think we will see Verizon's CDMA network go away as soon as LTE's footprint is full operation, that could take another 10 yrs or so.
Oh even better, the articles mentioned in post number twenty show that Verizon will be testing in the even nearer future. Better tell your girlfriend to whip out her oven mits.
Thanks for defining "argument" for me. Consider me enlightned. Commendable achievement or not, I stand by my original statement that something being rolled out in a couple of years is not "almost available". To me, I don't see how someone can argue that. That was my point.
COMPLETELY ROLLED OUT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.
It (testing) will be in some major metropolitan areas in a few months.
Ya I'm not sure if your aware of this skippy but VZW has been testing LTE for some time now. Since this is still in test phase they aren't going to be tell every tom and harry what city or area's of the US they are testing in.
Skippy? Don't call me peanut butter, dude. That's uncalled for. :)
When I said "test city", I meant consumers actually using the product. Like WIMAX is being tested in Baltimore.
According to Engadget, the first test of LTE under everyday conditions was only done two weeks ago.....in Germany.
According to VZW's announced plans, the network will LAUNCH sometime in 2010. They would like to rapidly accelerate toward full deployment by 2011.
That is what is being reported and I'm going to lean towards believing that over what some guy who works in a store heard. If they roll it out quicker, good deal.
lmao wow he actually makes a point
Verizon fanboys must die immed (unregistered)
Seriously. ^^^ Fangays need to stop focusing on ATT. All i ever hear is "OMG WTF? WUTZ RONG WIT ATT. THEY R THE SUX00Rz. WE WINZ VRIZON IS THE &$#% SUNNNNNNN." Just stop.
What? Are you serious number 3? Are you THAT offended from reading a comment on Phone Arena that you just had to snap? You need to have a seat and take a few breath's in before you continue browsing the site. Thank you
VZW fanboys still... (unregistered)
Yea I agree, it's pretty lame that they thrive on every forum and say the same thing everytime. Not sure about you, but I'm pretty much NOT a fan of broken records...
everyone on here PLAIN AND SIMPLE KNOWS VERIZON IS #1 IN TECHNOLOGY OF NETWORK, GROWTH, AND YES RELIABILITY DAY IN DAY OUT. EVERYONE NOT IN AGREEANCE IS IN DENIAL BECAUSE THEY STUCK IN CONTRACT W/ SH*%$ CARRIER OR CANT AFFORD VERIZON. (PERIOD)!
I like how you write "period" and then put an exclaimation point after it. Classic.
No, but seriously....get a life. Verizon may not be the best carrier for every person out there. Deal with it.
I have to disagree with you. Verizon may have slightly better coverage in a few certain areas but in 99.99% of places all the national carriers are the same. In addition, Verizon is overpriced. The way to go is GSM so you can get an unlocked Nokia S60 E or N series. Besides Verizon puts that terrible proprietary O.S. on their non-smart phones and has been known to disable features on their phones.
you know i hear that most women now notice if a guy has verizon or not, cause its more expensive, makes him seem like he spends his money, on EXCELLENT service and not shi**y service. With AWESOME phones.
Yeah. That's the type of woman I want, so in five years she'll have half of everything....including the family plan.
why is verizon going to LTE and not staying with a CDMA base??
Because the rest of the world minus Sprint is going to LTE.
Verizon won't have LTE network wide in 2 years. It's a whole new technology, it'll require a lot of cash, and a lot of work.
Voda and Verizon are working on the technology. There is already field test doing handoff with 170mbps download. Verizon will already invest 5.5 Billion dollars into it's current network this year alone. So the money is there, the work is there.
So in 5 years ATT will have LTE, while Vzw hasn't made any announcement about when they plan to launch thier's. Wi Max is looking good
is LTE going to be faster then Wimax or w/e it is called?
does LTE use a sim card like gsm??
Just so we have the right facts, the articles below speak of VZW starting trials in 2008 for LTE. Feel free to read at your leisure.
There is a difference between lab trials and real-world trials, but I wouldn't expect a twit like you to understand. Here's a fact, most evolutionary technology are in the labs for YEARS before they even consider real-world trials...then real-world trials can take anywhere from a few months up to a couple years before they are released to the masses.
the testing sprint is doing right now is real-world, but it is being done from vehichles and test sites......so stupid for someone thinking they are so smart....and go to Trevose PA if you want to see VZW's newest speeds, thats where they have been doing REAL WORLD TESTING WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES !!
Actually, you too are incorrect with regards to what Sprint is doing, but I will refrain from name-calling. Sprint has WIMAX out as a consumer product in Baltimore. It is a TEST MARKET. The service has launched and is being marketed locally. That is VERY different from employees driving around, testing the technology.
does that mean Verizon will be using SIM card? i don't want to use a SIM card. what will happened to Verizon's EV-DO or CDMA?
GSM RULES THE WORLD (unregistered)
I'm sorry, can you repeat that? You do not want to use a SIM card? Are you an ignorant? Or you like to have your phone company monopolize the sale, operating system and features on your phone...
EV-DO and CDMA are both history. Look what's going arround the globe with wireless telecomunications. We are way behind. I don't even know why you even visited this site. Go stay and do your research at Verizon's site.
GSM is as OLD AS DIRT and is a thing of the past.....it has been around since the 1920's and is half the reason your network is trash and your data speeds are a joke.
yeah well people like you make everything worse because you vote for the crappy guy who doent know anything about technology, and thats why we cant get ahead cause of the fool. In Japan they are about 4 or 5 years ahead of us, because they take a focus on technology. If people stopped fighting and actually focused their time on a project they might actually get somewhere.
Tony Vincenti (unregistered)
I can say calm down 32 but also he is sort of right. GSM is antiquitated technology. CDMA is supported in over 180 countries, I have no idea where 29 gets his info from, but China and Korea both support it and thats a HUGE base of cell phone users.
GSM is being weeded out slowly but surey, and thats ok. I can still buy my phones unlocked in a CDMA netowork because VZW is open to any CDMA device ( i just took an instinct and put it on VZW network, couldnt get the TV service but everything else works awesome ).
so much anger... it is just a phone. was any one of you alive in the 80s?
An Instinct on vzw, I don't believe that but there is a guy saying he activated a enV on Sprint where only voice works
I dont know think that open handset on CDMA networks is 100% yet.
As an employee I dont see people taking phones and cross with VZW and Sprint.
First of all, AT&T fan fags can't call Verizon expensive. Everything you have costs just as damn much and your data is more (and slower for that matter). Don't try to pull that "rollover" crap on me either because you damn well know that most people have nothing or everything left over and that crap DOES expire. You just don't tell people that. SO...to call VZW expensive is BS. You cover a much smaller portion of the US population with high speed data. Just admit it. You have a crappier network and that is the only reason you were willing to sell your souls the Apple. You knew the iphone would convince people to put up with a shitty network just to own a phone. Congrats on not having any balls. Put up or shut up.
I'm reading that HSPA is faster than even DOrA, so that leaves the question of what will vzw be while att is increasing thier 3g footprint with plans for 4g in a few years and Sprint is practically even with 3g with 4g here now
HSPA in theory is faster than DOrA so adding a plus to that is supposed to make it more faster, all the while Wi Max is up and running