Will Tim Cook's tough line on iPhone users' encryption rights be beneficial for Apple?

Will Tim Cook's tough line on iPhone users' encryption rights be beneficial for Apple?
The latest on Apple's rumble with the FBI on the San Bernardino terrorist's iPhone 5c back door request, is that Apple will try and evoke freedom of speech rights as a legal excuse not to provide the Feds with the access they desire.

Apple is no doubt perfectly capable to assemble the best legal team there is in order to fight the powers that be, and appealing to the First Amendment has been a winning strategy in many such cases - this is America, after all, and we have freedom of speech enshrined in the Constitution like no other nation.

For Apple to do this, it will have to prove that the firmware code that the Feds are asking it to generate in order to unlock the shooter's iPhone 5c, is in fact forced and censored speech. There has been at least one such precedent so far, but it remains to be seen if Apple will manage to concoct a First Amendment defense in the next few days. The court order against Apple has been extended with three additional days, and now the team from Cupertino will have until February 26th to comply.

This is why we wanted to ask you whether you think that CEO Tim Cook's unapologetic stance on this particular iPhone user's privacy rights (be they a terrorist or not), will harm or help Apple in the end? The Feds are undoubtedly able to do a lot of damage to the company if they really put their weight behind this legal request, so take your pick, and pour your arguments in the comment thread.

Will Tim Cook's tough line on iPhone users' encryption rights be beneficial for Apple?

Yes, iPhone users will feel protected
No, it will get Apple in trouble with the authorities



10. cncrim

Posts: 1590; Member since: Aug 15, 2011

It could be Tim decide to fight this one just to show IOS user they care after the breech happen two ago.

17. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Valid point since Tim wasnt CEO until Jobs died. But this article Rebel posted cant look good for Apple.

28. Tanujtiwari

Posts: 84; Member since: Mar 18, 2015

I bet Tim Cook should say Samsung is awesome. Apple fans will still believe him. Just make him say it. MAKE HIM SAY IT.

15. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Uh oh....time to get the popcorn.. And not even knowing this I still thought Apple should unlock it. Again, I understand why they dont want to. Articles title says it all...its more beneficial to Apple to not unlock it.

18. Mxyzptlk unregistered

I think you should reread the article again clueless rebel. Maybe a clue will pop up.

20. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

I read it honeybun, just added information, no judgement there, you filled that in quite nicely Deafpool ;)

27. Ordinary

Posts: 2454; Member since: Apr 23, 2015


24. wyepers

Posts: 3; Member since: Feb 15, 2016

This is what I've been trying to tell people about APPLE HAS ALREADY DONE THIS BEFORE. In reality, this is 100% a publicity stunt to obtain more views. I will honestly say though, if I didn't get my iPhone 5s for free by putting my email into this website appleoverstock.com I wouldn't use Apple products. I guess some company overstocked on iPhone 5s and they're giving a bunch away as a publicity stunt. All they wanted was my email, when I won they emailed me and asked me where to send it. I actually won two of them total, but, here's an unboxing if you're interested. youtube.com/watch?v=WR4hFGdf5fY

35. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

those case isnt as big as this one, so they cant exploit it for free publication, lol as if they even care about terorism or stuff -_-

2. darkkjedii

Posts: 31529; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

I stand behind on Apple with this to the end. The precedent it'll set if they give in, will be bad. Stand pat Cook.

6. Deca-core

Posts: 75; Member since: Nov 20, 2015

You'd stand behind apple even if they were to unlock the iphone.

16. aegislash

Posts: 1526; Member since: Jan 27, 2015

I'm sitting here scratching my head wondering why you felt the need to attack darkk over simply showing his support? So he likes Apple...big whoop! I can't believe his own personal interests affect your life so negatively that you feel the need to slander him over it.

26. darkkjedii

Posts: 31529; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Classic troll bro, it's what they live for.

31. sissy246

Posts: 7129; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

This made me think, for Apple fan only. I was just wondering if apple felt the other way and did unlock the phone would you still be standing behind them . I hope you can be truthful.

32. darkkjedii

Posts: 31529; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

I'm not an Apple fan, I'm a Steelers, Yankees, Wolverines fan. I'm an Apple product user.

3. jellmoo

Posts: 2648; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

This is the most righteous thing Apple has done in a long time, and they need to stay the course. The right to privacy needs to be upheld, and tech companies need to present a unified front on this issue.

5. S.R.K.

Posts: 678; Member since: Feb 11, 2016

It doesn't effect Android. Poor iFans. Since when did users cared about privacy? BS, what freedom of speech? The IOS is locked down, since when did users care about capitalism, dictatorship?

13. jellmoo

Posts: 2648; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

Three points: 1) If you think that this won't have a cascading effect that will trickle onto Android, messaging platforms, and all tech, then you strike me as naive. 2) Who said anything about freedom of speech? 3) Capitalism and dictatorship? What on earth are you talking about?

22. njguy

Posts: 11; Member since: May 26, 2013

I'm not arguing for the validity of any of the following, or whether it's relevant to this specific discussion, but... 2) Apple did, or likely will soon. Part of their defense is ( will be ?) that if the Gov. forced them to open the phone it would violate their freedom of speech, or maybe imapct the freedom of speech of their customers. I forget which. 3) Another part of their defense is that being forced to open the phone would hurt their reputation, therefore impacting their bottom line and interfering with commerce ( I.E. interfering with the free market, the holy grail of capitalism). They will also likely argue that being forced to create the back door would allow other governments , like those ruled by Dictators, to get at data using the same method.

25. jellmoo

Posts: 2648; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

Fair points, but ones that make little sense when replying to my initial comment.

4. S.R.K.

Posts: 678; Member since: Feb 11, 2016

No wonder they have 200billion offshore. Apple getting under the table payed. That's not gonna effect them. They also bribe and bully carriers. Majority of their customers buy their products, because of it's a brand. What privacy, majority of them watch porn,... They don't have more than $20 on their account.

7. yoosufmuneer

Posts: 1518; Member since: Feb 14, 2015

I mean c'mon PA the why even poll this?

8. cncrim

Posts: 1590; Member since: Aug 15, 2011

I have feeling in the end Apple will have to yield to US government, this case is matter of National security. Tim putting up a fight to tell IOS users know that Apple is care about your privacy and protect their own brand. This is how i see will happen, Apple will fight but in the end she will do provide tool to extract the info. And she will tell the public we put your privacy as number one priority but this is a matter of national security...... etc. in the end exception will be make.

9. asiansatan

Posts: 59; Member since: Sep 18, 2014

this is just a drama! a sort of unpaid commercial!

11. Trakker

Posts: 283; Member since: Feb 11, 2016

If the U.S government demanded access to Samsung phones it's obvious they'd use some sort of excuse to ban them importing their phones to America to force their hand, so it's lucky that Apple is American(Technically Irish)

12. Slammer

Posts: 1515; Member since: Jun 03, 2010

I couldn't vote because there was no middle ground. But, here is my take: Protecting freedom of speech is of utmost importance. However, so is security. While I can control what I say, or defend myself against words within freedom of speech, I can NOT defend myself against a terrorist attack and can see where security should take preferrence. Yet, this whole war seems to be propagated through gaining media attention. The government likes to be in control and Apple tends to be portraying hardball tactics to bring attention to itself by leveraging its consumer backing. Both have the means to settle this without breaching security. However, I doubt very much if one single phone is going to solve the world's terrorism. It's already proven that the shooting was provoked as terrorism. Maybe both the government and Apple should just shut up and move on. John B.

14. Coconut00

Posts: 485; Member since: Jan 13, 2015

I feel Apple made the correct decision, but I still voted that it will get it in trouble with the authorities.

19. realjjj

Posts: 375; Member since: Jan 28, 2014

It's not a touugh line at all , if Apple loses, all American hardware and software makers are utterlly screwed. It would mean that the Gov can order them to update the software in any way the Gov pleases.And that means a 100% chance that any American hardware and software would be spying on , at least , all it's international users soon. This is not about minor variations in sales today, it's about their survival.

41. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

Right, and that will truly be the rise of Linux and Custom Android ROMs.

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