Texas Instruments throws in the towel on OMAP, to limit work on smartphone and tablet chips

Texas Instruments throws in the towel on OMAP, to limit work on smartphone and tablet chips
Texas Instruments has been under investor pressure lately to give up its mobile chips program that culminates with the ARM-based OMAP processor family. It was consuming so much money and human resources, they said, without gaining much traction against a juggernaut like Qualcomm, which packages its Snapdragons with LTE radio for a complete solution, preferred by most customers.

TI seems to have listened, and announced that it will "shift focus" away from smartphone and tablet chips, as their "opportunity is much less going forward." Can't blame them, considering that the blazing mobile chips are gradually becoming a commodity, costing just a few tens for a complete modern SoC, while requiring considerable brain power to build and test.

Moreover, Samsung has its Exynos family, which it plans to pair with LTE radios, Apple just came up with a custom A6 chip, NVIDIA bought Icera to integrate baseband modems in its Tegra chips, and ST-Ericsson already does that in several Sony models, so even the second-tier space is getting crowded. 

Texas Instruments plans to expand the scope of its embedded solutions, looking to gain a foothold with car makers now, where it believes it will have much steadier long-term prospects..

source: Reuters



1. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

No OMAP 5? ): Well that crushes my dreams of having an OMAP 5 in my Nexus. Looks like the next Nexus will have either Tegra 3s or S4 (Pro)s. Bummer.

10. Non_Sequitur

Posts: 1111; Member since: Mar 16, 2012

I have had nothing but bad experiences with Nvidia. Snapdragon S4 Pro or Exynos please.

17. Retro-touch unregistered

I'd put my money on either of those two, next nexus I assume will have Exynos 5 dual core or S4 pro dual core, I don't see the point of them putting quad core

29. Non_Sequitur

Posts: 1111; Member since: Mar 16, 2012

Hopefully. The 1.2 GHz dual core Exynos in my phone plays NOVA 3 and the Tegra 3 quad core in my Infinity won't. Lol

20. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

Why is apple mentioned? They don't make their own chips. That is done by Samsung (for the most part) and TSMC, if I remember their name right

22. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Samsung manufactures their chips, but this time around Apple actually designed their own chip, instead of just rebranding an Exynos. It's just they had Samsung make it.

24. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

Good to see you finally acceted it and stop saying it´s an Exynos. Nice to see some people are not as stubborn as remixfa ;)

28. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Yeah, but it was kind of hard convincing. I mean, it's a dual-core A-9 32nm chip, same as the Exynos 4212; uses the same manufacturing process (HKMG) as the Exynos 4212; it's even made by the same company for Gods sake. On paper, the A6 and Exynos 4212 seem VERY similar. But it seems as though Apple genuinely made it their own somehow.

30. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

You are making the same mistake remixfa makes: the manufacturing process (32 nm HKMG) does not have anything to do with a chip. You can manufactre a Snapdragon, a Tegra, an Exynos, an OMAP or an Atom with it. It´s the same that TSMC or GlobalFoundries do: send them your chip and they will produce it for you for a price. It´s just one of Samsung´s business lines:http://tinyurl.com/butku67 I´m not sure where you read it´s an A9, because it´s not. It´s something more similar to a Krait: a custom chip created by them, something completelly different than the A9 or A15 chips based on the ARM designs.

31. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

lol, you are still off your game a bit. You keep telling me Im the one making the mistake, yet you have no actual evidence to say otherwise. All TRUE evidence and history points to me being most likely right. Your "evidence" was a couple of articles that you took the wrong way. It is not anything like the Krait. It is not some "hybrid'. It is an A9 32nm HKG 44212 Exynos with minor modifications and a different GPU. Find me HARD proof that I'm wrong. Not an article based on conjecture by the same author that originally said it was an A15 of some sort without proof, and then the entire phone blogging sphere ran with it like it was true. Also, TSMC and GF do not use the same HKG process samsung does... which is much more advanced than the 28nm process used for the Krait chip line.

34. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

Well, you call not having actual evidence to show you links from reputated sites like Anantech, one of the most famous sites for chipset analysis while claming something about TRUE evidence. But the fact is what you have offered to back up your claim is 0, null, nothing, rien de rien. Just what you call history (and I never claimed you were wrong with the other chips, just with this one). But the truth is that all the articles I have read claim you are wrong and I´m right. And I read A LOT. One more coming from iFixit:http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple-A6-Teardown/10528/2 "The manual layout of the ARM processors lends much credence to the rumor that Apple designed a custom processor of the same caliber as the all-new Cortex-A15, and it just might be the only manual layout in a chip to hit the market in several years." Find at least one place that claims that the A6 has an A9 4212 Exynos chip please, cause your word alone, that´s really weak. That the chip is fabricated with 32nm HKG by Samsung is well known fact and everyone knows that as Samsung fabricates the A6 chips. But as I have said several times "32nm HKG" is just a FABRICATION TECNOLOGY PROCESS of Samsung´s Foundry, so it does not back your claim at all. Check the next link for that:http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/foundry/process-technology/32-28nm

35. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

Again, you bring me speculation, not fact. You have yet to bring FACT. Until there is a FACT that says that they are breaking with history and current tech, it means jack squat. And I called Anandtech on their initial "its an A15" BS and won that argument. They retracted that statement pretty quickly. Anandtech is one of my favorite tech sites but even they get it wrong from time to time. You really think that a small little development budget like Apple's development gets, figured out how to get a huge head start on A15 development... while using their primary rival to manufacture these miraculous A15's??? All the while they beat samsung to mass market by MONTHS using samsung's factories??? And they figured out the LTE problem before Samsung did!?!?!?! All the while Samsung's development budget is like 300x larger than Apple's total research budget. That is a whole lot of salt to swallow in order to make it believable. Especially since there is still ZERO EVIDENCE OF ANY SUCH BS. I think you need to do less reading too much into what a reviewer is GUESSING on and stop daydreaming a bit. If someone was going to beat samsung to the A15 market, it sure as hell isnt going to be Apple. Qualcom maybe, but it will never be Apple. That is not their MO. You obviously dont understand the companies your trying to talk about. And just like that whole "A15 equivalent" bullshyt with Qualcomm.. that is nothing more than marketing and hype. It has nothing to do with reality. Its an exynos 4212 with minor chip mods and a different GPU. Deal with it.

36. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

I may only bring speculation, but it's the speculatin of very reputed sites. What do you bring to the disscussion? NOTHING but your own delusions, not even speculations. Why don't YOU bring FACTS? Because you can't even come up with what you dismiss as speculations. The only way to bring you facts would be Apple telling you they designed a new chip which they won't do, and at this point I doubt you'll belive them if they do... Let's see how is the score right now: TylerGrunter backed up by: Anandtech, iFixit and Lynley Group (chip market consultancy); and those by phonearena, gsmarena, engadget, techcrunch, wikipedia, and pretty much any other internet page. remixfa backed up by: no one. No links, no one supporting your A9 Exynos theory. Small Development budget for Apple? Over $500 millios! So yes, I belive they outdid Samsung this time.http://www.linleygroup.com/newsletters/newsletter_detail.php?num=4881 They didn't "figured out the LTE problem", if by that you mean to integrate LTE in their socket Snapdragon style. They are using the same solution the LG Optimus LG does with the S4 APQ8064 chipset or the Note II with Exynos 4412 chip: using an external LTE chip. They use the external Qualcomm MDM9615 LTE modem along with a Qualcomm RTR8600 Multi-band/mode RF transceiver. Don't you say you know so much about mobile chips? And yet you didn't know that? Not to mention that the informaion is in the iFixit and Anantech links I already sent you... iFixit step 7http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple-A6-Teardown/10528/1 In fact, they use three versions of the baseband modem, Anadtech (for the A1428 "GSM", A1429 "GSM" and A1429 "CDMA"):http://www.anandtech.com/show/6295/why-the-iphone-5-lacks-simultaneous-voice-and-lte-or-evdo-svlte-svdo-support- I don't read into what Anand or the others tell: I just read. They said it pretty clearly. And yes, it may be a guess, but it's the guess of the reputed sites against, well, just your personal opinion (it can't be rated even as a guess, more like a rant) You say again and again that there is no evidence of the claim, but you can't give any evidence of your own theory. First try to prove your own theory about being an Exynos A9, then you can ask for FACTs when you give somehting. And one more thing (pun inteded): it's obvious you don't know half as much as you think about mobile CPUs and SoCs. Deal with it.

33. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

I'm stubborn because I'm right way way way more often than I'm wrong.... especially on chips. You havent proved me wrong on this issue yet. You just have a belief that you are right without proof or history to back you up. You saw the word "custom" in an article and made it out to be something waaay more than it was.

2. bobfreking55

Posts: 866; Member since: Jul 15, 2011

sad. I don't like the monopoly of Qualcomm, every phone runs Snapdragon these days. Not that they suck, but that means less innovation in the chipsets. I hope Tegra 4 comes out soon along with Exynos 5.

3. predator93

Posts: 122; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

This is sad, I just hope someone else takes their place to compete with qualcomm, samsung and nvidia.

5. cepcamba

Posts: 717; Member since: Feb 27, 2012

Huaweii is cooking up some homebrew stuff so that's something we can look forward to.

7. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Yeah, that K3V2 processor they manufactured themselves, didn't they? It did out-perform the Tegra 3 if I'm not mistaken, that shows promise.

25. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

Don´t expect too much. The GPU seems an Adreno 225/PowerVR 543 MP2 equivalent and the quad core seems to be between the Tegra and the Exynos ones. Not a bad one though.

27. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

The K3V2 scored higher than the Tegra, but lower than the S4. So it an beat an A-9 quad, but can't quite stack up to Krait. Certainly not bad, considering it's their first attempt at a chip (to my knowledge).

9. predator93

Posts: 122; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

The processor huawei used in their flagship was nice. It would be awesome if they have some more options for less demanding users like me.

4. cepcamba

Posts: 717; Member since: Feb 27, 2012

The dual-core OMAPs of last year were pretty good. Sad.

6. KingKurogiii

Posts: 5713; Member since: Oct 23, 2011

what total BS. TI has actually been making really good SoCs. it'll be a shame to see them go.

8. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Exactly how I feel. I was also kind of disappointed they didn't make an A-9 quad this year, it probably would've been in the Razr (Maxx) HD. I wonder if they'll reconsider, or come back a few years down the road? It's doubtful, but eh.

32. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

Im with you. I was really looking forward to the OMAP5 this year/next year. I guess they had some issues they just couldnt shake.

37. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

New info apparently, http://www.gsmarena.com/clarification_ti_not_giving_up_on_its_chipsets_omap_5_on_track-news-4866.php Products with OMAP 5 are still on track and should be reaching consumers in early 2013. Though that still kills my dream about the Nexus with an OMAP 5, it's still nice to see TI isn't out of the game completely, but they are intimidated a bit by Qualcomm and Samsung.

38. KingKurogiii

Posts: 5713; Member since: Oct 23, 2011

well that's good. there's some real tough decisions ahead and i think that if there's not a Nexus at the end of this year then i'll just wait for the A15's.

39. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Yeah, it seems as though the only Nexus not "confirmed" yet is the Motorola one, and since I don't like phablets I'm not getting the rumored HTC Nexus 5. So my only options are LG, Samsung, and Sony; none of which sound as appealing as the idea of a Motorola Nexus. I would wait for the A-15s to come out, but I don't think I can wait that long to get rid of my S2. I MIGHT be able to stick it out until about March, but I'll probably be mentally insane by then. If there really turns out to be no Motorola Nexus I'll just get the global Razr HD, closest thing to a Motorola Nexus I'll get.

40. KingKurogiii

Posts: 5713; Member since: Oct 23, 2011

yeah, that's how i feel too except i'm not hurting so bad with this Galaxy Nexus right now. i might would consider the HTC Nexus though if they did it right. i'd probably suck up whatever i didn't like about the HTC before i got an LG Nexus though and as for the Samsung, i'd consider it if it weren't supposed to be as low-end as it's shaping up to be. the Motorola Nexus is a day 1-er for me (if i can afford it! xD) if all of these Nexuses just fail too much though well that is if there are any then i MIGHT would get the bootloader unlocked Razr MAXX HD. there would be a tough battle going on in my head about whether i should get it or wait though but i'll probably be so impressed with it when i get my hands on it for the first time that it may not be as hard as i think it is now. really phones have crossed a threshold now that even if you didn't get the highest spec'd one out of the group but still got a pretty high spec'd one instead then you would still truly prosper enough to a degree for it to probably be worth the money especially since you're upping the value of what you have so you can sell it and bury it into something else easier. i'm thinking i've had this Razr for too long because it's not going to bury but probably about half of what i'd get if i got something during the holidays. it'd be even less later.

41. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

I would be better off with a Galaxy Nexus, I could definitely bear to wait a few more months. HTC's only real problem is Sense, and that will be gone with the Nexus. Battery life was a bit of a problem also, but I doubt HTC would put any less than a 2,000 mAh battery in their Nexus. Just that 5 inch display never really appealed to me, and unless they make the bezel so small that it's the same size as the One X, I'll pass. How is the Samsung Nexus shaping up to be low-end? Wasn't there a screenshot of a device with the Exynos 5 chip appearing in benchmarks that was claiming to be the Galaxy Nexus 2? I could be mistaken, but I'm sure I read it somewhere. Though I highly doubt its legitimacy, I don't think Samsung will put anything lower than a 4212 or an S4 in there. As soon as Google says "Motorola", "S4 Pro", and "Kevlar" in the same sentence I will be sold. Just, BOOM! Right there I will be throwing money at my monitor. If some of those words are not spoken, I will look at the Sony and the HTC if it's the same size as the One X with its 5 inch display (like I said before). But if none of those exist or appeal to me, I will go after the Razr HD. Those are my options now. If there's a Motorola Nexus with an S4 Pro, get that. If it has a regular S4, look at the Sony or HTC. If the HTC is too big and the Sony doesn't have anything over the Motorola, get the Motorola. If there is no Motorola Nexus this year, the HTC Nexus is too big, and the Sony only has a regular S4, get the Razr HD. That's my process lol

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