T-Mobile COO: "Make no mistake about it: We would love to carry the iPhone"

T-Mobile COO:
T-Mobile USA's Chief Operations Officer, Jim Alling, has stated that their company would love to carry the iPhone, but not if that means that T-Mobile has to make certain sacrifices.

The executive has been discussing the topic at the Morgan Stanley 12th Annual Technology, Media & Telecoms Conference, taking place in Barcelona. Interestingly, Mr. Alling has said that T-Mobile isn't willing to sign a deal similar to the one that a competitor of theirs recently signed. It doesn't take a genius to realize that he was talking about Sprint. The thing is that signing a deal with Apple to carry the iPhone is a tremendous investment with an uncertain outcome. Sprint, however, took a leap of faith and is now hoping that the iPhone will pay off at some point in the future.

When it comes to T-Mobile, Jim Alling's exact words are:

It seems that for the time being, T-Mobile will be focusing on improving its HSPA+ network, which is currently home to some 1.5 million iPhones, with hopes that this number will rise. Still, the fourth-largest carrier in the States has acknowledged that the launch of the LTE-powered iPhone 5 has had a largely unpleasant impact on T-Mobile's bottom line for the end of this year.

via TmoNews

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3. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

Now that's what i call wise thinking!!

28. lsutigers

Posts: 832; Member since: Mar 08, 2009

I guess they will never carry it then. That's just the way it is when dealing with Apple. AT&T probably got the biggest break being the first to exclusively carry the iPhone, then Verizon took the hit and now Sprint. At the end of the day, or a few years, the numbers at all three of those carriers show that the investment IS worth it but it takes time to realize the ROI due to the ridiculously high subsidies.

37. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

Agreed, and time isn't on apple's side. They're losing customers, market share, and appeal. T-Mo is smart to avoid them but open the back door for the users that bring their own.

4. Mr.Mr.Upgrade

Posts: 474; Member since: Aug 30, 2011

T-Mobile also said it will love to have 4g lte and better service

12. gwuhua1984

Posts: 1237; Member since: Mar 06, 2012

No, no, they say they will, at least on the LTE part.

6. Roomaku

Posts: 278; Member since: Feb 06, 2012

If T-mobile had the coverage I would switch from soul sucking, wallet raping Verizon in a heartbeat!

8. jmoita2

Posts: 930; Member since: Dec 23, 2011

Smart move. To carry the iPhone, the upside would be all for Apple as usual. And as a product that is consistently losing market share to Android and other platforms, that is no longer justifiable. Give it a couple of years, and Apple will be begging Tmobile to carry the iPhone. Well done, Mr. Alling.

9. ngo2dd

Posts: 896; Member since: Jul 08, 2011

You know losing markets share is not the same as sells. I don't own apple but to say the iPhone is not selling is dumb. Each iPhone has sold more then the last. Sprints has gain customer with the iPhone. Keeping hating but that will not change the fact that apple sells phone pretty well.

23. Lboogey6

Posts: 281; Member since: Jan 31, 2012

they have but they've also had struggling network because of the influx without the network strength and im sorry the iphone isn't worth having no service. i'm not that deep in apple sucks but people are ignorant for the fact of going on in one ship to weigh yourself down and sink because it has a cool sounding horn

39. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

They may sell more but they don't advise of the breakdown of those sales. It's been rumored by big analyst firms that apple pads its sales numbers by including refurbished devices and warranty trade-ins as "sales", as well as including old models that are still sold as new. Not only that they are getting in new markets to make up the difference. They aren't gaining many actual new customers in markets they've had a foot in prior, and the churn rate is not in their favor

10. Mr.Mr.Upgrade

Posts: 474; Member since: Aug 30, 2011

U right apple sells and T-Mobile don't.... bad combination

11. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

Not necessarily true...

13. true1984

Posts: 869; Member since: May 23, 2012

I agree, T-Mobile is probably the best service to use if you get an unlocked phone since they have unlimited data. Now the just need to work on their HSPA+ network, if they do i might switch from Sprint

14. archangel9

Posts: 233; Member since: Feb 07, 2010

T-Mobile is better off w/o the iPhone because of what Apple demands which is ludacris. As for their HSPA+ network,98% of that has already been refarmed and improved for LTE in 1st qtr 2013. Keep in mind ,ATT had to fork over a lot of spectrum and 3 billion when their attemped acquistion fell through as well as getting AWS spectrum from VZW. Plus,they have the Samsung Galaxy S III ,which they were the first US carrier to get it,not only is their No #1 seller,but sold over 30,000,000 globally and the GNote II sold over 3,000,000 in over a month. CS has been up,unlike Sprint,and the merger w/Metro PCS will solidify the LTE,UNlimited NWide 4g ,no throttling speeds,no caps or overages and the plans are decent. Heck even the new upcoming Droid DNA will work on this with no pressure. T-Mobile is making serious moves and I'm glad to bolt from Sprint (it was great but we had some warranty issues as well as CS),but I'm very happy with TMo ....BTW ,and I been known about this for quite some time,you can make calls over WiFi if you got UNL T&T.Get the Value plan and save.

17. true1984

Posts: 869; Member since: May 23, 2012

I say they should just use HSPA+ instead of LTE since it's cheaper anyways.

36. archangel9

Posts: 233; Member since: Feb 07, 2010

Their HSPA+ is just as fast even a little faster than ,should I dare say,Verizon's. Rootmetric did a analysis a few weeks ago comparing it to ATT and Verizon and it's AMAZING FAST!!! But LTE they have to go that route because that will be the standard..

18. Joshing4fun

Posts: 1245; Member since: Aug 13, 2010

I say forget the iphone and forget LTE. Just wait for the next big thing and work on improving your service and making it even more affordable.

40. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012


19. Leon101

Posts: 90; Member since: Feb 27, 2012

Good thinking!!! Having the iphone could really help tmobile!!

21. tedkord

Posts: 17413; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Yeah, it sure is helping Sprint.

24. Lboogey6

Posts: 281; Member since: Jan 31, 2012

no its not where did you see that everyone took pay cuts network is slow and they won't make any profit for 3 more years

30. g2a5b0e unregistered

He was being sarcastic.

35. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Whats funny is boogey's reply helped explain the sarcasm....lol

20. tedkord

Posts: 17413; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

T-Mo users should hope and pray they never get the iPhone. The iPhone is more expensive for the carrier to offer, and you know who pays for that. Since getting the iPhone, Verizon has dropped unlimited data, added upgrade fees, eliminated 1 year contracts, raised the subsidized price of top tier phones from $199 to $249-299.

22. androiddownsouth

Posts: 598; Member since: May 02, 2012

Don't forget the elimination of the New Every Two credit, and 1 year upgrades on certain lines. All of that went away with the arrival of the iPhone. I truly believe that Verizon would be better off as a company without the iPhone. While we gained subscribers that are iPhone loyalists, the things we gave up for it cost us other subscribers. Not sure what the numbers come out to, but I just think things would be better for the customer without that phone.

31. webOSlove unregistered

I hate Verizon, so very much, but their coverage cant be beat.

33. downphoenix

Posts: 3165; Member since: Jun 19, 2010

Sprint has had to make sacrifices too. Thye discontinued the premier program, including the yearly upgrade for primary lines, waived upgrade fees for premier members, and 25% accessory discounts. They also increased upgrade fees from $18 to $36, increased TEP from $7 to $8, removed discounts applying to additional lines on the plan, changed the price of the plans so that it incldued only the 1st line instead of 1st 2 lines so that the 2nd line wouldn't be discountable anymore, removed the 14 day early upgrades that we could apply, stopped waiving upgrade and activation fees online, put the $10 premium data charge on all smartphones instead of just 4g smartphones, added $15 charge for changing phone numbers, remove billing to account for phone upgrades, and increased the monthly surcharges. It was a bad move on Sprint's part. When they got the HTC Evo, they had the first phone that got people envious enough on other networks to switch to sprint that wasn't an Iphone. However, sprint didnt really follow up the Evo with a powerful exclusive phone, instead putting their chips in on the Iphone. They also have been complacent on their network upgrades, Network Vision should have happened 2 years ago. Not all was bad though, they did bump up the regular upgrade date from 22mo to 20mo.

25. lubba

Posts: 1313; Member since: Jan 17, 2011

You'll be paying 299$ after mail rebate for the 16gig and 399$ after mail in rebate for the 32gig. This price would never change until a new iPhone comes out. Unlike Android, price drops within 3 months.

26. Jyakotu

Posts: 867; Member since: Dec 12, 2008

Whether people here like it or not, the iPhone is always going to be a carrier seller. Sprint, my carrier, has seen gains in post paid because they had the iPhone and unlimited data. It's no surprise that T-Mobile would want to sell the iPhone, because it does bring in customers. You don't have to like Apple or the iPhone, but give credit to where credit is due. The iPhone made smartphones blow up.

27. true1984

Posts: 869; Member since: May 23, 2012

i wouldnt say all that but, honestly a lot of people love the iphone, and sprint did sell a lot of iphones. i dont think they made smartphones blow up, but they did make them more popular. blackberry made smartphones blow up

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