Samsung rumored to exclusively manufacture the Snapdragon 830 on a 10nm process

Although the Samsung Galaxy S8 is probably pretty far away in the future, this isn't stopping the tireless rumor mill from allegedly revealing details about the upcoming Samsung flagship. According to a recent rumor originating from South Korea, some versions of the Samsung Galaxy S8 will integrate Qualcomm's Snapdragon 830, which will be exclusively manufactured by Samsung on a 10nm node process.

According to the rumor, Samsung has scored an exclusive deal with Qualcomm to manufacture the Snapdragon 830 on a 10nm process. Allegedly, the technology will be called FoPLP, which stands for Fan-out Panel Level Package, and will enable Samsung to manufacture the chips without a printed circuit board for the package substrate. The rumor claims that Qualcomm and Samsung will jointly develop this new manufacturing technology.

If this all sounds like some rare form of Klingonian, what you need to know is that the FoPLP technology will supposedly reduce production cost, make it easier for Samsung to integrate Input/Output ports, and will make the chips thinner than before. Also, since the technology implies a 10nm node, it is expected to improve power and thermal efficiency. Neat, huh?

According to previous rumors, other versions of the Samsung Galaxy S8 will integrate Samsung's own Exynos 8895 chipset, which will also be manufactured on a 10nm node technology. As in previous years, chances are that there the differences between the Exynos 8895 and the Snapdragon 830 will be minimal.

In closing, we'd like to stress that this is nothing but an unconfirmed rumor at this point. There are many months to go before the Snapdragon 830 enters the production phase, so be prepared to hear more unofficial information about the chip and the technology behind it through the proverbial grapevine.

source: ETNews



43. xperian

Posts: 421; Member since: Apr 10, 2014

I guess we can expect a drop in quality, if its the case. Samsung quality control is not the greatest at this point. I guess quallcomm went for samsung for cheaper manufactoring costs

42. roldefol

Posts: 4745; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

Sounds worth waiting a year for. This is (inside) my next.

16. dazed1

Posts: 815; Member since: Jul 28, 2015

"As in previous years, chances are that there the differences between the Exynos 8895 and the Snapdragon 830 will be minimal" Oh my what load of BS, 8890 DESTROYS 820.. Same like 5433 destroyed 805 and 7420 destroyed 810

18. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

I disagree on 8890 destroying 820, it did beat it but not by huge margin. I do agree on other two, 5433 was way ahead of time, it was 810 done right 6 months before Qualcomm, I just it was 64 bit capable. 7420 was way ahead in league as well.

19. maple_mak

Posts: 953; Member since: Dec 18, 2013

Dude, you looks like forgot this: GPU always Adreno better than Mali...

31. iC-118

Posts: 260; Member since: Sep 29, 2016

Only by 15%. Having a faster phone rather than better Gpu.

41. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

15% on paper. up to 65% in real life as the SD820 GPU dont throttle and the one of the exynos 8890 throttle up to 50% after 30 min of intensive gaming. so its a question of need. Me i want no lag in games. But if all you do is Facebook and webbrowsing then exynos is for you.

39. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

8890 GPU throttle up to 50% after 30 min of intensive use.. its destroy it on battery efficiency and its a bit faster on CPU but thats its. 5433 is an oven probably one of the worst exynos of all time. agreed for the SD810 on benchmark but in real life usage no difference i used the htc m9 and its was faster , better ram management than my friend S6 i could open easily 10 apps and switch whitout reload where S6 had big issue there ( seem a bit better with software update )

45. iC-118

Posts: 260; Member since: Sep 29, 2016

So what if it was an oven. It performed great. Sacrifice Heat over agility. Why do people make a big f kn issue about heating. Just buy a flip in case. Or ignore the section which resides the cpu.

13. kick413

Posts: 165; Member since: Sep 16, 2012

Im pretty excited for the S8. With the bad press from the Note7, Samsung really needs to do something great with their next phone.

12. mudcat626

Posts: 232; Member since: Jul 13, 2016

The A10 already uses the FoPLP process. So what's the big news.....

29. ShaikhJGI

Posts: 361; Member since: Jan 10, 2014

A10 is on 14nm/16nm FoPLP & SD 830 is suppose to be on 10nm big difference you see.

10. BradyCrack

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 29, 2015

SD has been pretty awful the few last years. I hope sammy can change that.

8. LanjaKodaka

Posts: 219; Member since: Sep 27, 2016

Lol, this chipset should do well or else Samsung will have a bad time dealing with situations like the Note 7.

6. bugsbunny00

Posts: 2267; Member since: Jun 07, 2013

Hope doesn't blows up!..

7. Fona13A unregistered

Because you certainly aren't older than this joke.

21. leftheodo

Posts: 108; Member since: Oct 21, 2011

Samsung also manufactures Apple's A9 chip. Now go back to your hole

5. darkkjedii

Posts: 31809; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Can we say, Snapdragon done right.

1. torr310

Posts: 1737; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

I am sick of S810 and S820 for their energy inefficiency. I hope Samsung's own Exynos will be better than Snaildragon again like this year. Also, hope Kirin and Helio will be great products next year!

2. EC112987

Posts: 1216; Member since: Nov 10, 2014

Note 7 runs allllll day

3. torr310

Posts: 1737; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

Note 2, 3, 4,5 could do that too. I mean it should do better than that!

4. sgodsell

Posts: 7683; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

There is also a SD 821. Look at the new Pixel and Pixel XL use that processor. To say it's a snail is shows how ignorant you really are. The 820, and 821 support quad channel 1866 MHz DDR4 ram. They support the new Vulkan graphics, and in some cases up to 3 times faster than OpenGL 3.1.

17. vincelongman

Posts: 5840; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I dont see why so much people are so anti-Qualcomm now The 820 isn't even a bad chip, its good a chip even In fact, its GPU actually more efficient than the 8890's and A9's Its just got a CPU that's not as efficient as the 8890, 950 and A9/A0's Literally the only problem The 8890 and A9/A10 are better, but the 820 is still a good chip

20. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

People jumped into the Qualcomm hate bandwagon when SD810 overheating issue became a thing. I still think that issue was a bit overblown, I owned an SD810 device, never had performance issues with it, it gets a bit hot when in use, but hey, what high end phone doesn't?

22. Harambe unregistered

CPU is more important than GPU. In past 4 months of using my Oneplus 3, I have never played a game. A phone is supposed to be a portable productivity tool which helps you, not a gaming machine. The GPU on the 820 is really good, but the CPU is slow AND inefficient. It's not that I'm anti QUALCOMM, it's just that I'm against someone using custom CPUs that perform worse than ARM's own designs( A72). I'm using my OP3 underclocked and undervolted to get good battery life(8-10 hours SoT). If I had an exynos or kirin, that wouldn't be needed. And the A10 is less efficient than the A9. I don't like that too. Apple went overboard with the clock speed which makes the A10 throttle and heat up beyond uncomfortable levels.

25. vincelongman

Posts: 5840; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Yea, CPU is more important than GPU But the 820 still isn't a bad SoC Its just not a great as the 8890 and A9/A10 (and 950 in terms of CPU) True, the A8 is still Apple's best SoC in terms of best thermals Samsung/TSMC didn't have a node shrink ready this year, which is partly the 8890/A10 weren't as impressive as the 7420/A8/A9

26. Harambe unregistered

I don't know. Qualcomm could have gone with the A72, yet they made a custom design that was worse than the A72 in performance and efficiency and stuck with it. If that's not a bad chip, I don't know what is. I don't expect custom design to be worse than the reference ones. If that is the case, the custom designs serve no purpose at all. Regarding Apple, they knew that Samsung/TSMC don't have a node shrink, yet they clocked the CPU way too high. They could have gotten away with 2 GHz, but they didn't. I would call it their mistake. The 8890 is no wonder either. It barely breaks even with A72 and is worse in many tasks. But it was the first custom ARM64 cores from Samsung and Qualcomm, so I can give them a pass. It's just going to go harder from here. We are at the point where we will get less than 10% gains every year from Apple. So android chip makers can get a break and catch up. Hoping that Samsung and Qualcomm do better next year. And I mean a lot better, like 50% better IPC.

27. vincelongman

Posts: 5840; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

The Kyros would have been in design years before the A72 announcement Custom cores take several years to design from scratch e.g. Samsung's M1 cores took 3 years to design Might be because the 820 was already taped out by the time of the A72 announcement But no one knows Yep, the blame is on Apple Just like Qualcomm at fault for the 810's issues True, the M1 also has its issues too From what I've heard there's somethings its faster in, but in those A72 isn't far behind and decently more efficient Yea, I suspect they probably already have M2/2nd gen Kryo in the pipeline But it will be interesting to see if Qualcomm and Samsung switch back to standard ARM cores in 2-3 years time or continue with custom cores

35. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

in fact A72 as a bad tendency to heat up too much and throttle this is why they gone for a custom design thats dont heat as much. might not be as battery efficient but its not an oven.

34. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

SD820 CPU is not slow. wtf you guys smoking? Never had a single lag or stutter on my LG G5 game or not game. Its might not be the most efficient for battery life ( still beat the crap out of the iPhone 7 ) So if CPU more important for you fine. but for me GPU is more important. Exynos throttle the gpu like a bitch and make some game lag i dont want thats. yeah the A10 is very power hungry too...

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