Ban on Huawei is also hurting U.S. tech firms; Qualcomm is one example

Ban on Huawei is also hurting U.S. tech firms; Qualcomm is one example
While there is no question that Huawei's placement on the U.S. Commerce Department's Entity List has hurt the manufacturer the most, something pretty big is being overlooked. The firm's U.S. suppliers are losing out on business that brought in $11 billion last year. That is the amount of money that Huawei paid U.S. suppliers in 2018, and it won't be replaced by doing business with another company. Chip designer Qualcomm is a good example of how the Huawei ban is actually hurting American firms.

Yesterday afternoon, according to MarketWatch, Qualcomm reported its earnings for the fiscal third quarter that ended in June. Revenue was down 13% and net income declined by 34% on an annual basis. Those numbers don't include the billions that Apple paid the company to settle all legal disputes, obtain a six-year product license (with a two-year option) and procure a multi-year chip supply agreement. So Qualcomm's normal business operations had a very poor showing from April through June, and it was May 16th when Huawei was placed on the Entity List.

Huawei and Qualcomm are in a dispute over royalties

The company's CEO,Steve Mollenkopf, poured fuel on the fire yesterday by sharply reducing Qualcomm's estimates for the current fiscal fourth quarter. While analysts expected Qualcomm to report revenue of $5.67 billion and earnings per share of $1.09, the executive said that the firm will report revenue in a range of $4.3 billion to $5.1 billion with earnings between 65 and 75 cents a share. Mollenkopf says that this estimate does not include any payments from Huawei (more on that later). The lower Q3 numbers and the lower Q4 estimate had investors rushing to sell Qualcomm's shares this morning; the stock dropped as low as $68.25 after closing regular trading on Wednesday at $73.16.

While Huawei does produce its own Kirin chipsets and Baloong modem chips, it does buy a small amount of Snapdragon modem chips from Qualcomm. But during the latter's fiscal Q3, Chinese manufacturers that order in higher quantities from Qualcomm, like Xiaomi and Oppo, had lower shipments during the period.

Qualcomm and Huawei are currently in a dispute over royalties and in January the Chinese manufacturer paid Qualcomm some of what it owes. Qualcomm's business practices could be forced to change thanks to a decision made by Judge Lucy Koh in the FTC v. Qualcomm non-jury trial. The decision branded Qualcomm's chip-selling policies anti-competitive. Some of these policies include it's infamous "no license-no chips" requirement, charging royalties based on the retail price of a handset instead of the cost of the component, and not licensing its standard-essential patents to rivals. The latter are patents that manufacturers must license in order to make sure that their products meet technical standards. These patents are licensed using fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory (FRAND) pricing.

Qualcomm has been trying to get the judge's decision stayed until it goes through the appeals process. This way it won't have to renegotiate all of its current contracts with phone manufacturers, and if it wins on appeal, reverse the contracts again to their current status. Judge Koh turned down Qualcomm's request and the chipmaker has requested a stay from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.



1. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2487; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

It’s hard to really say how hurt Qualcomm was by Huawei’s ban versus just the overall decline in smartphone sales that occurred this year. And it looks like Qualcomm’s outlook is diminished, but not because of the ban on Huawei. Rather it’s because while Qualcomm held an overwhelmingly huge advantage during the 4G LTE period because it had the most patents on the technology, they actually come out badly beaten in the 5G era. Huawei has 11,000 patents on 5G technology. Qualcomm only has, I believe, around 4,000 to 5,000. While that doesn’t necessarily mean Huawei is automatically better in 5G, as it’s about quality over quantity, it does go to show how the tables have turned for Qualcomm after having a huge advantage for so long.

3. sgodsell

Posts: 7567; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Huawei holds 15% of the 5G patents. Finland's Nokia has 14% of the 5G patents. South Korea's Samsung has 13% of the 5G patents. LG has 12% of the 5G patents. USA Qualcomm has over 8% of the 5G patents, and Sweden's Ericsson has 8% of the 5G patents. China's ZTE has almost 12%. Intel has 5% of the 5G patents. With some other Chinese and Japanese companies each taking 5% of the patents.

2. shm224

Posts: 300; Member since: Mar 19, 2015

The biggest threat to Qualcomm isn't Huawei, but Apple, who orchestrated global regulatory attacks against the company in their quest to reduce their royalty payment. If Apple gets their way and QCOM licensing model is destroyed, we are talking $10B in licensing revenue each year, which amounts to Huawei's purchase from the US companies.

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