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No, there's not going to be a Qualcomm Snapdragon 836 chipset

No, there's not going to be a Qualcomm Snapdragon 836 chipset

Remember all those rumors that claimed Qualcomm will launch a slightly improved iteration of the Snapdragon 835 SoC in Q4 2017? Well, according to a new report, they were inaccurate as the chipset vendor has no plans to release another high-end processor this year.

The rumored Snapdragon 836 CPU was supposed to power the forthcoming Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL flagships, but they are likely to be equipped with the currently available Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 chipset instead.

AndroidPolice claims a source familiar with Qualcomm's plans confirmed that there's not going to be a Snapdragon 836 processor launched in 2017 since the Snapdragon 835 is a more than a decent option for any company who wants to launch a flagship smartphone.

Although Qualcomm may launch new chipsets by the end of 2017, they will most likely be aimed at the low- to mid-end range rather than replacing the Snapdragon 835 SoC announced early this year.

Obviously, we can't vouch for the accuracy of the report, so let's just say that it's highly unlikely that we will have another major chip launch from Qualcomm for the remaining of the year.

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26 Comments

rsiders

Posts: 1728; Member since: Nov 17, 2011

What a win for consumers. People can finally enjoy the SD835 without the fear of being "left behind." I think the industry needed a small break from the breakneck speed which things were advancing anyway.

omnitech

Posts: 1131; Member since: Sep 28, 2016

Eh. I don't see it as a win. The company wins because they don't have to make a second more powerful chipset and get to charge q4 prices for a q1 chipset but I don't see how the consumer wins. Apple gets away with enough of this rehashing bs already. Don't let Qualcomm do it too. Ask for the good stuff when it's available. Don't let companies re use old stuff and sell as new.

vincelongman

Posts: 5552; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

It means nothing For the past 3 years Qualcomm has only been producing 1 flagship SoC a year, just like Samsung The 836 would at best be 835 but with slightly higher clocks due to improvements in process yield Like 821 vs 820 Probably just Qualcomm not wanting to upset some OEMs who are already using the 835 Since it may confuse some average consumers

cheetah2k

Posts: 2083; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

820 vs 821 was a die shrink too.. Efficiencies were mostly due to that

vincelongman

Posts: 5552; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

sgodsell

Posts: 6528; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

I remember a lot of people last year on this site and BGR were saying stupid things like. Oh that is using the older SD820 back in August of last year. The SD 821 only arrived in October with the Pixels being the first to use it. When the SD 821 was only slightly more efficient than the SD 820. That hurts sales in the long when stupid people spew crap, so it makes sense to not update, or they could update but don't make another model to separate it in the minds of others.

Guaire

Posts: 847; Member since: Oct 15, 2014

It maybe left behind by an early launch of Snapdragon 845, if Samsung S9's January launch rumor is true. If Samsung indeed gonna launch S9 early as January that means either Qualcomm did not dropped Samsung Foundries for getting TSMC's 7nm or Galaxy S9 gonna be Exynos 9810 exclusive which is likely gonna be manufactured at their own 2nd gen 10nm node.

abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

anyway i will upgrade to GS9 with exynos 10 i'm done with snapdragon crap

pixel_ftw

Posts: 82; Member since: Jun 19, 2017

Too bad the crap snapdragon 835 is overall better than exynos counterpart . It's just samsung that sucks at using it. Other companies are doing mighty fine with the 'crap' snapdragon.

bucky

Posts: 3759; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

I'd take an exynos over a SD any day. I still don't understand why Samsung doesn't just off the snapdragon already.

kiko007

Posts: 7369; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

CDMA support is one of the pivot points regarding Samsung's Exynos out west (QC basically controls the CDMA spectrum). There may be others, but that's the most obvious one.

sgodsell

Posts: 6528; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

It's not just CDMA, but the Adreno GPUs kill the Exynos Mali GPUs. That includes the Exynos 8895 with the Mali-G71 MP20 GPU which is rated at 371 gigaflops. The latest Adreno 540 is almost twice as fast. Even the older SD 820 and 821 SoCs have faster GPUs.

dazed1

Posts: 766; Member since: Jul 28, 2015

ROFL, time to stop posting, mali destroy adreno ever since 820 era.

vincelongman

Posts: 5552; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

8995 has slightly better peak GPU performance 835 has slightly better sustained GPU performance and uses on average 39% less power than the 8895 http://www.anandtech.com/show/11540/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos-versus-snapdragon/5

sgodsell

Posts: 6528; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

More like you have to stop posting, especially when it's a fact that the Mali-G71 MP20 GPU is rated at 371 gigaflops. Which the latest SD 835 is just shy of 600 gigaflops. The SD 821 is rated at 520 gigaflops. You do realize that pairing the right ram with the SoC helps as well.

L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1499; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

Qualcomm owns a number of patents needed to connect to towers in the United States and other locations, I think they are CDMA related. It's cheaper for Samsung and others to use Snapdragon than build their own chip and pay royalties. Samsung could ditch Snapdragon but it would cost them.

cheetah2k

Posts: 2083; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

Licensing, Patents, 3G/4G technologies, etc affect what countries get what chipset most of the time. I remember when the first Exynos came out, it was 3G only as they hadn't licensed 4G tech at that stage..

Loveneesh

Posts: 404; Member since: Jul 14, 2015

Exynos chipset may be better than Snapdragon but Samsung ui is a big No.

B3NN377

Posts: 24; Member since: Jun 20, 2017

The 820 and 821 are architecturally the same chip. Look up "silicon lottery". The 821 was just a better bin of the 820. So if there is no 836's where are the best of the best 835's going? Are they going to save them and re-release them under a different name?

Pitrich

Posts: 239; Member since: Apr 13, 2016

I think it's stupid to tune it up in numbers were the user can't even tell and call it a new chip. If it's a good chip it should last until some new tech stone is unturned.

Pitrich

Posts: 239; Member since: Apr 13, 2016

Call is the 835 S

MishaalRahman

Posts: 4; Member since: Sep 05, 2017

Hey Cosmin, Just wanted to give you a heads up that XDA-Developers reported on this 3 hours before the AndroidPolice article was live. The AndroidPolice article even cites us as originally reporting on it. Cheers!

sunnyfpy

Posts: 262; Member since: May 12, 2013

Go for 845 next year!

Derass

Posts: 149; Member since: Aug 06, 2015

but muh Pixel...

chenski

Posts: 723; Member since: Mar 22, 2015

That's good

GoTstan

Posts: 354; Member since: Jul 25, 2015

This is good. One top end SoC per year imo

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