NSA secret court order to Verizon leaks: your bulk call logs are belong to us!

NSA secret court order to Verizon leaks: your bulk call logs are belong to us!
A classified court order has been leaked to The Guardian, showing clearly how the National Security Administration has requested call logs data on millions of phone conversations of Verizon customers.

Now we all know the government, and also private data mining companies, are snooping, but the extent of it seems breathtaking. Government has long argued that this is a public domain information, like looking at unopened envelopes, as the calls aren't associated with names, addresses, content and so on, but there are notions that call locations triangulation is also recorded.

For starters, the unique serial number of the phone you call from is recorded, too, as are time and duration, and these, together with the eventual location tracking, speaks volumes to anyone who's looking. Now these are all deemed for use as bulk call logs, meant for data mining, so that no probable cause is needed, yet the Electronic Frontier Foundation finds the whole matter pretty disturbing, especially in light of the recent AP journalists' snooping scandal. Gary Pruitt, the president of the Associated Press, agrees completely:

This is a pretty new phenomenon, as now for the first time in history you always carry a rather tell-all device on you - your smartphone - and the issue might get to the Supreme Court one day. Despite that the court order only states to collect bulk logs for three months back, and the NSA doesn't really associate your name and address with it, they certainly could if the need arises, so you'd better get used to the times - even if you are not on Verizon, we'd wager to guess the other carriers have received similar NSA court orders, too.

AT&T, for example, keeps your tower info indefinitely, Verizon for one "rolling" year, and Sprint for 18-24 months, and there are similar procedures for text messages. T-Mobile charges law enforcement $150 for an hour's worth of info what phone number was close to which towers, Verizon rakes in $30-$60 for 15 minutes, whereas AT&T likely charges $75 an hour with two to four hours minimum. 

See the full text of the NSA court order obtained by The Guardian in the slideshow below.

source: TheGuardian

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1. msa1988

Posts: 418; Member since: Mar 30, 2010

Not surprised at all, but this doesn't bother me. Some things you just have no control over. As long as you aren't doing anything illegal, who cares?

4. YaBoiDre10

Posts: 84; Member since: Nov 15, 2012

That's silly. So what you're pretty much agreeing to is being guilty till proven innocent. "He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither" - Benjamin Franklin.

6. medicci37

Posts: 1361; Member since: Nov 19, 2011

To say that you have nothing 2 fear because your not doing anything illegal is insane. Do you know nothing of history? This is why history keeps repeating itself. Cause some people refuse to learn from the past

12. WM6.5Sucks

Posts: 42; Member since: Apr 06, 2011

Heh, you'll realize soon that the word "illegal" is SUBJECTIVE! I.e. make sure you don't search anything "illegal" that interest you on your smartphone, you may not know that you are. ;-D

2. FoneAddict

Posts: 263; Member since: Jul 05, 2011

America = Big Brother Society.

3. YaBoiDre10

Posts: 84; Member since: Nov 15, 2012

Your calls are "BELONGING" to us. Wow so many grammar mistakes on this website.

5. YaBoiDre10

Posts: 84; Member since: Nov 15, 2012

And what's crazier is when you try to tell the blind smart phones were designed to track the American people you're labeled a tin foiling hat wearing conspiracy nut. SMH

7. Cellphonator12

Posts: 29; Member since: Nov 19, 2012

Wow, this is what happens in the best (worst) communist countries! The time when they'll come and get you just because they're in the mood to do so, is getting closer. No worries, as long as the Lakers play tomorrow, it's ok!

8. YaBoiDre10

Posts: 84; Member since: Nov 15, 2012


9. lzsbleach

Posts: 155; Member since: May 20, 2012

Well if your going to do anything illegal just leave your phone home and use a prepaid one.

10. TBomb

Posts: 1450; Member since: Dec 28, 2012

I get the jist of it... but wheres the serious problem? I'm asking to be informed not to start a brawl.

11. lsutigers

Posts: 832; Member since: Mar 08, 2009

Well the federal government has a huge surveillance system called DCSNet (FBI Digital Collection System Network). It can intercept/wiretap any phone call, landline or wireless on any carrier and/or text message at any given time. It's run by Sprint for the gov't on a dedicated fiber backbone network. Not sure if this is what the article is referring to but it sure sounds like it.

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