Judge Koh asks Apple and Samsung to each lower the number of claims for 2014 patent trial
posted by Alan F. / Apr 25, 2013, 9:52 PM
Koh is limiting both sides invalidity arguments (arguments made why the other company's patents are invalid) to 15. If each side were to claim that the other infringed on 5 patents for example, that would allow both firms to give three reasons why each patent is invalid. Judge Koh has limited the trial to 12 days which means that eventually we will see limits on the number of expert witnesses each side can present, and a limit on the amount of time that a witness can be questioned on the stand. This is nothing new as both sides faced similar limits during the first trial, which ended in a jury awarding Apple a huge award. Samsung is currently appealing the decision.
In December, Judge Koh will start making her summary judgment rulings which would leave either side with fewer patents to argue about. In a previous order, Koh ruled that for the summary judgment hearing each side would be limited to 10 claims from 5 patents. After the summary judgment rulings are made, starting on February 6th, each side would be limited to 5 claims for the actual trial.
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sheesh, i am tired of this patents suing already
posted on Apr 25, 2013, 9:56 PM 8
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Blame that bad fruit, who started all this™
posted on Apr 25, 2013, 9:58 PM 6
Is it tiring, being wrong all the time? Nokia launched the smartphone patent wars (Against Apple), followed by Samsung shamelessly and blatantly ripping off Apple. Do you think it was any accident that Samsung made components for the iPhone, then changed course and design language to create a phone that looked like the iPhone? Take off the fanboy blinders. There are very few reasonable people who don't agree that the Galaxy S was an iPhone copy.
posted on Apr 25, 2013, 10:14 PM 3
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1) Samsung ACE is very similar to iPhone 2) SGS not so much = SGS was sold more times than ACE = you lie = the design is important just to d*mb iShe*ps :) my dear, use more logic...but I don't expect it from Apple customers :)
posted on Apr 26, 2013, 12:24 AM 1
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don't forget that this state have caused just Apple+Microsoft because they are not able to compete, innovate I know that there always had been some patent issues but rotten Apple+Microsoft have made it exaggerated Microsoft has even bribed eg. Slovakia where you can not pay taxes without Windows!!! see: bit [dot] ly/RYzOPP
posted on Apr 26, 2013, 12:21 AM 1
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And this could all be moot when the Appeals court rules. It is a shame that everything couldn't be suspended pending the ruling. Attorneys gotta make McMansion payments and what-not, however, so the drama continues.
posted on Apr 25, 2013, 10:07 PM 1
A bit off topic, Been reading all about patents and I didn't know you could patent an agricultural seed. ... like storing/keeping a seed from a yielded crop is ILLEGAL and you could face detention or fine for doing such (Monsanto patents)....I was like wow...this is how totally F'ed up the US patent syatem is.
posted on Apr 25, 2013, 10:50 PM 2
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"the thriller with manilla folders," -laughing so hard on this. Only boxing people will know.
posted on Apr 25, 2013, 11:02 PM 0
Another circus getting ready to begin. 12 days for something of this magnitude isn't enough time for either side to make proper arguments. Koh is just placing ridiculous restraints on the trial, just like she did last time. What should happen the next time is another judge should take the case. Koh is a rookie judge presiding on a case far above her skill level. Last trial proved her lack of experience, don't expect much different in the next one.
posted on Apr 26, 2013, 7:53 AM 0
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