Huawei's banned Mate 30 Pro may offer Google apps on the side

Huawei's banned Mate 30 Pro may offer Google apps on the side
Huawei is gearing up to announce what could amount to the most amazing phones this side of foldables, and none of them will have Maps, Play or Gmail at launch. Yes, we are talking about the Mate 30 Pro and its Mate 30 sidekick that will be stuffed to the gills with technology that meets or exceeds the best that Samsung or Apple can offer.

Unfortunately, Huawei is a pawn in the larger trade war between the White House administration and China, so it's blacklisted as an entity that US companies are forbidden to sell goods or services to. 

That includes Google and licensed Android, so Huawei can only use the open-source one that doesn't come with system-level Google Play, Maps, Gmail, Photos and other apps we are used to take for granted on our Android phones. 

It also means rare if any updates, but we will cross that bridge if Huawei finds customers for the Mate 30/Pro without Google apps at all. It turns out that the company may have some contingency plan in place that doesn't involve its obscure Harmony OS that so far is present only on one smart TV from the company. 

While it will introduce Mate 30 Pro with open-source Android, it may also tip ways to sideload the Google apps afterwards, and we will be all ears in Munich when September 19 comes about to see if and how Huawei has managed to solve the conundrum it was placed in by the trade war with China.



1. Shubham412302

Posts: 581; Member since: Nov 09, 2011

Sideloading GAPPS is far better than pre installed ones. I always flash Pico(minimal) GAPPS when I flash a ROM. I don't want Google bloatware on my phone. The only Google apps I need are YouTube, gmail, drive and playstore. Even if phone comes preinstalled with these apps they are outdated and must be updated. So not having them will save space on ROM.

2. notfair

Posts: 755; Member since: Jan 30, 2017

true but the average joe doesn't how to do it and will not buy this phone.

4. meanestgenius

Posts: 22267; Member since: May 28, 2014

If anything, it will be a hit in China, as they don’t use Google Services there. Huawei has also reportedly been in talks with other App Store makers like Aptoide to have it’s App Store preinstalled on the Mate 30 line.

13. Venom

Posts: 3722; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

The average joe wouldn't be buying this phone at all especially if they don't want to risk giving their information away. They definitely don't make the best smartphones in the world as incorrectly reported.

15. meanestgenius

Posts: 22267; Member since: May 28, 2014

The average user buys smartphones now from other Android OEM’s like Google and from Apple that they risk giving their information away too, but of course you’d leave that part out. And no one “reported” that Huawei makes the best smartphones, it was an opinion, much like when you say the Pixel 3A XL is the “best phone ever” (which is a complete fallacy), except Huawei smartphones are better than the Pixel line for certain.

16. ScottsoNJ56

Posts: 125; Member since: Oct 01, 2017

Which Huawei phone are you comparing to the Pixel because the Pixel is better than 99% of Huawei phones

20. meanestgenius

Posts: 22267; Member since: May 28, 2014

Not the flagships, starting with the P20/Mate20 series, and that’s just the camera. If we are talking about overall (feature set, build quality, battery life), even Huawei’s sub-brand Honor beats out the Pixels. Pixels are only good for their cameras, which Huawei’s latest have beaten, as well as others. I would say the updates, but updates on Pixels are usually buggy, and I’m not talking about betas.

24. jiangqiushi

Posts: 25; Member since: May 28, 2019

Don't forget Huawei built one of the best phones for Google in the past. If you are comparing phones in the same price range, I wouldn't say any Google's phone is better than Huawei's overall.

30. Venom

Posts: 3722; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

You can't reason with a stubborn horse. You can lead a horse to the water hole, but you can't make it drink they say.

32. meanestgenius

Posts: 22267; Member since: May 28, 2014

Pot, meet kettle, Mr. Ed.

31. Venom

Posts: 3722; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I love how you criticize me for saying that the Pixel 3A XL is the best phone ever yet here you are trying to do the same thing while trying to pass it off as a fact, which is the same bs you do when it comes to the Nokia Pureview that is not as good as the 7.1 imo. And stop getting so defensive just because I said something true about Huawei.

33. meanestgenius

Posts: 22267; Member since: May 28, 2014

I love how you’re such a hypocrite and feel that the only smartphones worth praising are the ones you favor, as you attack others for praising the smartphones they favor. You love to try to pass off what you say as fact, which is the same BS you do when I list factual evidence why the Nokia 9 Pureview is the best Nokia branded smartphone to date. And stop getting so defensive because I corrected your fallacy about Huawei and because I say true things about Google’s Pixel line.


Posts: 1; Member since: Sep 15, 2019

Google is the biggest data collector and seller in the world so switching to another platform wouldn't be such a bad thing. Plus these phones are atleast 1.5 times better and 1.5 time cheaper than the self proclaimed best iPhone pixel s10. Honestly i was waiting for the curved phone n holographic display. I'm sure huawei will find a way out, the US is playing a dirty game as they can compete fairly. It would benefit us to get a little more tech savvy and protect our data too. I would like to stick to huawei for now.

18. 44alexsmith

Posts: 14; Member since: Oct 06, 2016

Yeah, it would be kinda like having Cyanogenmod with a skin(i.e. EMUI). A person can then choose which Google apps to install, which will be sweet(potentially less Google tracking).

3. meanestgenius

Posts: 22267; Member since: May 28, 2014

I’m just glad to see that Huawei is foraging on with the business of making the best smartphones in the industry as of the last few years, IMO. They are indeed caught in the middle of this political propaganda BS. Looking forward to the release of the beasts known as the Mate 30 line, and I’m optimistic about what workarounds, if any, Huawei displays for those wanting Google apps on the Mate 30 line.

5. redmd

Posts: 1943; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

This might just be a China phone exclusive.

10. sockergris

Posts: 57; Member since: May 13, 2017

Sure, they're gonna introduce a China only phone in Germany. They're betting heavy on European market. AOSP + unlocked bootloader + heavily discounted price after 6 months, since it won't sell that good anyways and I'm all over this inbred abomination of a phone.

6. ishaqthkr

Posts: 159; Member since: Mar 26, 2015

Wait does this mean their bootloaders will be unlockable officially like before?

11. sockergris

Posts: 57; Member since: May 13, 2017

Let's hope.

8. yalokiy

Posts: 1051; Member since: Aug 01, 2016

The updates will be not an issue, since android is open source and security fixes are pushed to open source android repo in first place anyway. New android versions are pushed to AOSP as well, so new android version updates will be there as well. Instead of google apps, with play store being the most important one, there will be "App Gallery" from huawei, or some other app market preinstalled.

9. gadgetpower

Posts: 283; Member since: Aug 23, 2019

This is sad.

14. tangbunna

Posts: 484; Member since: Sep 29, 2016

good.. i can get rid of google ads now.

17. ScottsoNJ56

Posts: 125; Member since: Oct 01, 2017

I hope they get punished and not be able to use anything Google. That will teach them

21. meanestgenius

Posts: 22267; Member since: May 28, 2014

They don’t use Google Services now in China, and they sell very well. They sell more phones in just China than Pixels sell worldwide, lol.

19. 44alexsmith

Posts: 14; Member since: Oct 06, 2016

I am not sure if Huawei is any worse than Alphabet or Apple unless Huawei steals trade secrets and are truly a threat to national security. All smartphone OEMs mine customer data from smartphones for various reasons(even App Developers in some cases) e.g. advertising, user habits for product improvement etc etc. Not thrilled about it, but it is what it is. It would be nice if all OEMs were transparent about the data they collected and gave customers an opt out option. But, that is just not going to happen.

23. hamaidx

Posts: 99; Member since: Apr 28, 2015

I just don't care about Google - or any effin apps.. I need a phone to make calls and take great photo's and videos.. I would love to go and meet people and speak to them in person rather then using the apps on phone while I be with them.

25. Budhainthemood

Posts: 88; Member since: Mar 03, 2018

They sucked as phones, anyway. Copycats of Apple and Samsung's best, the late being copycats themselves. Without Google's top aps, it's definitely not worth buying.

26. p82maarj

Posts: 2; Member since: Sep 03, 2019

Copycats of Apple and Samsung? Remember: - First phone reverse charge? Huawei mate 20 pro - First 3 cameras phone? Huawei p20 pro - First phone brand with night mode? Huawei - First AI camera? Huawei - First phone able to record people in color and backgroudnd in black&white? Huawei - First phone with PC mode? Huawei - First phone with triple camera in square mode that Apple and Google has copied? Huawei mate 20 pro - First phone with supercharge able to charge 50% of battery in 30 mins? Huawei - First phone with degraded back colours? Huawei - First phone with support of 5G SA? Huawei - First phone compatible with 4.5G networks? Huawei - First phone with persicope lens able to do 5x optic zoom?Huawei ... This is why a company with only 6 years in the smatphones world is the 2nd seller brand.

27. ScottsoNJ56

Posts: 125; Member since: Oct 01, 2017

Well of course they were first with all that. They stole everything else so didn't have to invest resources developing all that stuff. They just stole all of it

29. p82maarj

Posts: 2; Member since: Sep 03, 2019

FYI:Huawei is the 5th company in R&D investment in the WORLD in 2018. More investment than Apple and Intel for example. Maybe you are right and has even more merit. They are able to steal tech and release even before the creators xd!

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