Huawei is skimping out on the P10's storage and RAM, benchmarks suggest


Have you been feeling lucky lately? Perhaps you found some money on the sidewalk, or maybe won yourself a little something from a scratch-off ticket – and now you want to take that high a bit further by betting that money on something. While we most certainly don't condone gambling, here's an idea how you can make things a bit more interesting: go buy a Huawei P10.

Why, you might ask, would this be gambling? Well, according to reports, it seems Huawei has been tinkering with its latest flagship's internals – and not in a good way, either. As reported by GizmoChina, storage benchmarking app Androbench 5.0 has been showing some hardware discrepancies among users of the P10. It seems affected components include the devices' internal storage and RAM, both of which can be one of several differently performing variations.


This may not strike you as particularly noteworthy, until you consider the fact that different storage options also have dramatic variations in speed as well: while some P10 users have reported reaching over 700 MBps, others can't ever cross the 300 MBps boundary, which is a vast difference, especially considering all of these variations are sold at the same price point. A Reddit commenter also reports variations in RAM type as well, listing six possible combinations of components, all of which seem to be available on the market:

  • LPDDR3 + eMMC 5.1
  • LPDDR3 + UFS 2.0
  • LPDDR3 + UFS 2.1
  • LPDDR4 + eMMC 5.1
  • LPDDR4 + UFS 2.0
  • LPDDR4 + UFS 2.1

The first of these options is the worst possible combo, while the last is the most favorable, so buying a P10 really does seem to be a game of chance. We tested our own P10 unit's storage, and the benchmark showed a read speed of 604 MBps, which suggests we're equipped with a UFS 2.0 unit, though others may be even more unlucky than us. In fact, even users of the most expensive, 6GB RAM / 128 GB storage P10 Plus option report having an eMMC 5.1 unit, which is the slowest of the bunch.

Many manufacturers do the same thing, mind you – this might turn out to be a classic case of sending reviewers slightly better hardware than consumers will receive in order to boost a device's score by a bit. In any case, we advise potential buyers of the P10 to check their device's speeds and make sure they haven't gotten the short end of the stick.

source: GizmoChina via Reddit

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21 Comments

1. Shubham412302

Posts: 569; Member since: Nov 09, 2011

Same was seen in honor 6. They launched honor 6 with 20mb/s, 40mb/s and 55mb/s write speeds.

2. manojmcn

Posts: 633; Member since: Jul 16, 2015

P10 reaches the peak point of Huawei sales growth. There is no novelty left to boost any further unless they innovate. Worrying factor is the profit decline even the sales are good.

3. Ghost04

Posts: 517; Member since: May 03, 2014

Apple has been doing it for years with its i-Phones.

11. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

No, Apple has never done it. They dual source the components, but they are of similar quality and have the exact same specification and performance, at least within the margin of error. There would have been a class action against Apple if they had done it.

13. cile1977

Posts: 2; Member since: Sep 23, 2014

iPhone has different storage in 32GB models vs model with more storage(cannot put link). Maybe this is case here also.

14. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

Apple uses the same storage in 32GB as the 128 and 256GB models. This is just how NAND flash works. 128GB just uses 4 32GB modules. This makes it able to use those 4 chips in parallel and hence is faster. See any comparison of a 64GB SSD with 512GB or 1TB SSD. 1TB SSDs are remarkably faster due to NAND parallelization. Huawei on the other hand is using different storage solutions. eMMC and UFS are completely different protocols. Apple on the other hand uses NVMe flash inside all storage models. Even 16 or 32GB android phones are slower than 128 GB android phones.

19. xfire99

Posts: 1205; Member since: Mar 14, 2012

Apple does also using different storage solutions dude. IPhone 7 32GB are using eMMc.https://www.kocpc.com.tw/archives/115482 They are no different compared to others company's.

4. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Wow that's really bad, very dirty from Huawei I can understand LPDDR4 + UFS 2.0 and LPDDR4 + UFS 2.1 Since UFS 2.0 vs 2.1 isn't that different Whats more important is NAND quality and quantity Assuming they use similar quality NAND, it should scale reasonably Like in iPhones/S8s/Pixels, there's small differences in storage speed of each capacity, but overal performance is very very similar But there should not be any LPDDR3 or eMMC 5.1 LPDDR3 means less memory bandwidth, i.e. worse GPU performance eMMC 5.1 means much slower storage speed, i.e. longer loading times

10. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

UFS 2.0 to 2.1 is a world of difference. Depending on the configuration, the difference can be up to 2x. But yeah, the difference between LPDDR3 + eMMC config and LPDDR4 + UFS 2.1 configuration will be massive, in almost an order of magnitude.

12. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Depends on the configuration Both UFS 2.0 and UFS 2.1 support up to 1.2GB/shttp://www.anandtech.com/show/10094/samsung-announces-256gb-ufs-embedded-storage-solution The difference is newer UFS 2.1 chips have newer NAND which are faster Hence why UFS 2.1 chips are usually faster than UFS 2.0 chips, despite both being capped at 1.2GB/s AFAIK UFS 2.1 only bought security improvements

5. SaRPeR

Posts: 141; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

Haven't LG done something like with G6 ? Different markets get different features. Some markets get Wireless Charging, some get Quad DAC and some get 64GB storage. This isn't much that different.

6. notfair

Posts: 719; Member since: Jan 30, 2017

these are features that you have spoke off but when you buy a phone it will not say what type of ram and memory it has it'll just say 6gb ram + 128 rom but it doesn't specify the type of ram and memory, what is happening here it's not ok at all. what the guy on reddit said, it's very bad it's something like they advertise 1080p screen but you get a 720p...

7. lallolu

Posts: 732; Member since: Sep 18, 2012

How is it not much different? LG made it clear it will be like that. Therefore, you know what you are getting. Bad and dubious behaviours should not be encouraged.

8. ryq24

Posts: 875; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

Busted! There are many small and medium companies that short change their customers but never expect it from such a large company like Huawei.

9. HomerS

Posts: 419; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

Haha now we get to the secret and what chinese companies might be doing to offer their device at a low price. Advertise the best, send the best test units to reviewers and then sell all over place devices with cheap components to consumers, very very shameful and should not be supported anymore.

15. Bondurant

Posts: 780; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

Source of news is random Chinese guy. Pretty common to release fake news that go viral.

16. Bondurant

Posts: 780; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

Whats worse is that in the images provided in the source that shows the different results, the phone is entirely different in each case. See the top bar in each image showing different UI. Its basically results from different Huawei phones and even older EMUI versions.

20. swors

Posts: 1; Member since: Apr 19, 2017

My phone is Mate9 which should be 'LPDDR4 + UFS 2.1', but the bench result is simlar with the second picture. And I can tell you that lots of people have the same or worse result in China.

17. hungpakto

Posts: 48; Member since: Sep 30, 2016

Also the camera on the P10 too

18. LovesCameras

Posts: 51; Member since: Dec 02, 2015

Perhaps someone with a P10 / P10 Plus could provide us proper evidence? Also PA tested the device, I bet they would have noticed something remarkingly underperforming.

21. afjmd

Posts: 22; Member since: Jan 16, 2017

My retail says, that my upcoming has PCI Express x64 og eMMC Turbo Plus 17.1. what does that mean? Does that mean I will get the slowest version? :(

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