First 64-bit Samsung phone gets benchmarked, sports a Snapdragon 410 chip

First 64-bit Samsung phone gets benchmarked, sports a Snapdragon 410 chip
Ever since Apple introduced the industry's first 64-bit processor with the iPhone 5s, silicon slingers have been in a state of emergency, or that's at least what multiple accounts seem to suggest. While those initially attempted to laugh off 64-bit chips publicly, it eventually became obvious that, much like anything else in the industry, the rest must follow. You may call it herd mentality, but it probably has a lot more to do with pure business than anything else.

Either ways, the current silicon king in the mobile space, Qualcomm, didn't take long to announce it's own plans to make the jump towards 64-bit processors, with processors like the Snapdragon 410, 610, 615, 808, and 815, all of which will be based on ARM's new 64-bit architecture. And while chip development usually takes a long time (in smartphone years, that is), we're already getting the first real hints that the first slew of devices powered by Qualcomm's 64-bit chips are around the corner. More specifically, a recent run through the GFXBench benchmarking suite left traces of a Samsung device that was powered by a 64-bit Snapdragon 410 chip and an Adreno 306 GPU.

The rest of the specs powering this still mysterious Samsung device (SM-G510F) include a 4.8-inch, 540 x 960 (qHD) resolution display, 1GB of RAM, and 8GB of internal storage. As for imaging, the SM-G510F makes do with an 8-megapixel rear snapper capable of 1080p video capture, and a 5MP front-facing selfie cam. Lastly, the device in question ran Android 4.4.2 KitKat.

As for the type of performance you can expect from a device with similar specs, this GFXBench pass already provides some clue. That said, do keep in mind that this is likely a model in early development, so further optimizations could (and likely will) take place. With that in mind, we've got to say that we weren't very impressed -- when compared with the Moto G (which has a more demanding, 720p screen), the SM-G510F managed to snatch a victory in several tests, but not by a mile. But we'll give this the benefit of the doubt and wait until these first 64-bit Android devices become a market reality. Until then, sit tight.



1. verbalize

Posts: 150; Member since: May 03, 2013

Lol.. And here is Samsung late to the party again..

3. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Copycats usually are

7. Astoni

Posts: 649; Member since: Sep 28, 2013

Heard apple came late this time around also ;)

9. Ashoaib

Posts: 3291; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

do you mean with their phablet? yes, very very late, copy cats usually are

10. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Heard apple has nothing to do with this

38. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

Then who is Apple copying? You always comment implying that others are late, copying, or in some way inferior. And the implication is always comparing them to Apple, which you have stated as your OS of choice. Yet whenever anyone brings Apple into this due to your comments, you state that isn't what this is about. But when a "fandroid" as you've called them comments in an Apple article you have no problem bashing Android. So please answer me how that is different? Different sets of rules for different people doesn't work and is one of the main things wrong with this country. If you're going to use Apple as the standard by which you judge other companies, then you have to be prepared to have them scrutinized as well.

50. babyk

Posts: 379; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

lol...What else you heard?

53. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Define late. A lot of the features present in iOS 8 were already in beta through jailbreaking. Apple gradually releases features so people can properly enjoy them and utilize them. They don't release features out of the blue just to release them. Adding features, as proven by Samsung with their constant levels of bloat that no one will probably use, doesn't always make for a pleasant user experience.

8. hung2900

Posts: 966; Member since: Mar 02, 2012

What the f***? This one is a Qualcomm SoC. What a brain less sh*ep!

11. Mxyzptlk unregistered

I don't give a fudge what it is. It's still Samsung using a 64 bit chip

14. Astoni

Posts: 649; Member since: Sep 28, 2013

I don't mind any company copying others but to say that the copied apple cause they started using 64bit is a bit of a stupid statement.. that means that everything apple is bringing into iOS and has the latest 2 major updates has been copied from Android and WP.. that also means that apple copied 64-bit architecture aswell.. and don't forget that samsung made those chipsets.. It seems to me that you went from apple fan to fullblown dumbass.

23. Mxyzptlk unregistered

If Apple never used a 64bit chip you really think Samsung would've used one? Don't be ignoramuses.

27. iushnt

Posts: 3108; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

"If Apple never used a 64bit chip you really think Samsung would've used one?" I'm sure they would. I agree to Astoni (Post 14), you were a good apple fan before and wouldn't bother android or Samsung. Dunno what happened to you.

32. Mxyzptlk unregistered

I don't. I just give my opinion like everyone else.

44. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

And others are giving their opinions as well. But theirs are ignorant and yours are correct? You can't cur through your arrogance with a plasma cutter. At some point the industry would've gone to 64 bit, it's the next logical progression. The PC industry has been using 64 bit OS and chips for years, Apple didn't invent it. So just as the PC industry migrated from 32 to 64 bit, so is the mobile industry. If apple hadn't have been first, someone else would've. The difference is no one believed it was a necessary step at this point, and truthfully it isn't. How much has migrating to 64 bit helped how the device runs? Any gains could've as easily been accomplished by stepping up to a stronger CPU or more RAM. And now developers have to start moving their apps over to 64 bit ahead of schedule. The main reason Apple went to it was as a selling point. It's no different than 2 & 4k TVs, without the content you're not seeing any benefits until the rest of the industry starts offering content that they can make use of it. There's the argument that it future proofs the device. But in the case of mobile, how many are still going to have the first 64 bit device when the industry can really make use of it? Anymore people are shocked when someone has a 2 year old phone, so that isn't a very valid argument. Either way, Apple didn't create 64 bit, they simply used it as a selling point. And with the way business is today, if you don't have it as well you're falling behind, whether the feature is useful or not. It happened with 720/1080 screens, 3D, 4G and LTE, and now with wearables and water resistance. Every time someone comes out with a new feature, the industry jumps on it and it's the next must have thing. How useful they are could be determined by the consumer, or they could very well be following the "heard mentality" and buying because they think they need it when in fact they might never use it.

59. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

He's just a blind sad lil fan boy. probably in his teens or something. He worsphips APPLE and hate's copy cats you can always ignore people like him.

63. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

Wow you do the same but with Android, irony

36. wilsong17 unregistered

idiot 64 b mobile was in progress since 2012 or 2011 they made report about it do a simple google search

70. PhoneArenaUser

Posts: 5498; Member since: Aug 05, 2011

Mxyzptlk as always is unable to reasonable his bulls**t statements...

65. tedkord

Posts: 17365; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Because the tech in smartphones hasn't followed the tech in desktops, right? ARM announced 64-bit CPUs a year before the iPhone 5s was announced. In fact, if ARM hadn't done the initial legwork, there'd be no 64-bit A8.

67. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

Intel had 64 bit long before that. My old Asus laptop that I bought when Vista launched (don't laugh) was 64 bit. I still use it so I know it's on there. And Vista launched quite a few years ago. But your point is correct. The PC industry comes out with something, and when they can jam it in a smaller mobile device, they do. Same with WiFi, first on laptops, then on smartphones.

24. Iodine

Posts: 1483; Member since: Jun 19, 2014

Ok so if they were just coping all those features from android for the last 2 years how will you explain to me that google is coping those features back wothleslly, as they already have them ? And aehm they copied an 64-bit architecture from who ? Oh from the distant future I forgot....

49. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

As I said earlier, 64 bit is a natural progression for the industry. A smartphone is basically a mini laptop with calling capabilities, and laptops have had 64 bit for years now. It's no different than moving from a single to dual to quad core processor, as the demands on the device get stronger, a more powerful CPU is required. The problem is, we aren't at that time yet, which is why even almost a year after it was offered, the industry is moving at a snail's pace to optimize for 64 bit. If we were in a crunch, the progression would be much faster than it is.

18. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

Funny because if you really want to go there, the S2 has been sporting the features of iOS 8 for three years now.

22. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Do you want to do this PapaSmurf? You've never given me any trouble about my Samsung comments.

46. StraightEdgeNexus

Posts: 3689; Member since: Feb 14, 2014

Of course, In the small world of an iSheeeeep, his tech knowledge is limited to Apple's A chipset, or terms like "desktop class", "64 bit", "Axx is twice as faster than Ax", "Retina". Infact he gets so sheepppy that he forgets Apple A7 is manufactured by Samsung.

66. tedkord

Posts: 17365; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

HAHA. Was that supposed to be intimidating? He's right, by the way.

19. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

also heard they are usuing outdated software too.

28. vikingsfootball09

Posts: 112; Member since: Oct 02, 2013

TO Verbalize and Mxyzptlk >>> apple doing 64bit with just 1gb of ram is nutz...not fully utilizing 64bit. copycats? i think it makes more sense to have 3gb or more system ram that to have 512mb or 1gb. - didnt apple use 4g/lte after android used it first? - while apple was still using 512mb memory, android was using as much as 2gb...then apple finally stepped up to 1gb, while most android are now using 3gb - while apple has been stuck at 4 inch screens before the 5s, most android have been doing atleast 5inch. now apple is finally gonna go the 5+ inch screen with their new iphones - while motorolla atrix had fingerprint scanner more than 3yrs ago, apple copied on their 5s - what about apples supposedly iwatch rumors over a year ago that apple fanbois were saying android will copy...but guess what? smartwatches were available even before apple hinted of making one of their own...and samsung is already on its way of making its third generetion of smartwatches. - everything about ios7/8 is more like android than it is ios itself - the list goes on and on and on my is a copycat that apple fanbois like to play dumm n dummer...OMG OMG!!! HAHAHA!!!

39. Iodine

Posts: 1483; Member since: Jun 19, 2014

You are bashing them so little it actually looks you praise them ! You are embarrassing the God Android !

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