Apple to seek $40 from Samsung for each phone that allegedly infinged on Apple's patent

Apple to seek $40 from Samsung for each phone that allegedly infinged on Apple's patent
Apple and Samsung are about to head back to Judge Lucy Koh's courtroom for the sequel to their epic patent trial. After part of the damage award was vacated, and a new trial for damages held, Samsung owes Apple $930 million. The next trial, which includes more relevant devices like the Samsung Galaxy S III, is scheduled to begin on March 31st.

Back on January 23rd, Apple and Samsung met in United States District Court for the Northern District of California, with both firms trying to get the court to dismiss each others' claims. According to a transcript of the January 23rd meeting, for the upcoming trial Apple plans on demanding $40 from Samsung for each Samsung phone that allegedly infringed on one or more of the five Apple patents at the heart of this legal fight. These patents deal with unified search, data syncing, slide-to-unlock, the phone number tapping feature, and autocomplete.

The $40 per unit figure is not something that Samsung would ever agree to pay. It is interesting that in 2010, the year before this litigation commenced, Apple offered license to Samsung its entire IP portfolio for $30 per unit ($40 for tablets for the first 24 months) and the Korean manufacturer refused to bite. It is too bad that both sides can't follow the example recently set by Nokia and HTC. With the latter in danger of having an injunction placed on its Android devices in Germany, both sides reached a global licensing agreement. Perhaps there is just too much bad blood between the two rivals, and neither side wants to be the first to blink. Too bad really, because there is surely enough money going around for both to sign a reasonable licensing agreement and still make enough profit to satisfy stockholders.



source: SCRIBD, FOSSPatents via SlashGear

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38 Comments

1. akki20892

Posts: 3902; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

40$ multiply by Millions, damn too much. Samsung in bad position right now, positive is they sell a lot phones and negative is they going to give 40$ from each phone if apple win this trial.

4. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

I love how originally they asked for $30 per device, and now it's $40 after the S3 and S4 broke records.

7. rantao333

Posts: 346; Member since: May 21, 2013

i also love how Samsung rejected the offer and now apple request more.

9. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

$30 a device is a total scam. I would have flicked Apple off and walked out of the room like a boss.

14. TechFreak123

Posts: 85; Member since: Feb 25, 2014

I would send several trucks filled with cents.

24. sgodsell

Posts: 7433; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

I love how Microsoft is willing to sell WP for $15 per device. Yet Apple thinks their iOS is worth $40. What a joke. But then again hardly anyone is buying WP. If the lawyers are smart then there is no way on this planet that they can get anywhere near $40 per device, especially since you can't get iOS on any other device. They will be lucky to get a dollar.

28. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

It is actually funnier because MS has serious patents all of which combine for about $15 for a cross licensing deal for more than just their Android related patents. Apple wants $30-40 per device for rubber banding and rounded rectangles with screens. That is why Apple is the king of patent trolling, because they don't want a deal, they just want to stifle competition. They probably don't deserve more than a few cents for the patents they have and no one is being sued as easily now because everyone stopped rubber banding and came up with better or equivalent methods.

34. darkkjedii

Posts: 31289; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

39. mrfwy

Posts: 20; Member since: Feb 17, 2012

Samsung pays Apple, Apple pays Nokia...What is next?

31. Ashoaib

Posts: 3297; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Forget apple, they are greedy bast**ds... no need to pay anything to apple... its better to waste money in legal bettles instead of giving it to apple... apple should start a begging business

32. taz89

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 03, 2011

This is what apple wants doesn't mean it will ever get it.. When you in court your demand the highest but you rarely get the highest. Samsung will always say no these ridiculous prices, Samsung know they are better off losing in court and paying a billion dollars here and there

2. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

Apple is officially smoking crack if they think $40 is justified.

3. power_x

Posts: 264; Member since: Aug 28, 2013

EPIC PATENT BATTLES OF HISTORY APPLE INC VS SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS B E G I N

5. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Lol! With a profit margin of $700 US for iPhone and $250 US for iPad. US $40 is dirt cheap in Apple's context. One word sum it up, BULLY!

6. express77 unregistered

one should stop stealing and one should stop overcharging and trolling.

8. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

Read on the patents Samsung is accused of. You'll see how greedy and low Apple really is on the business side.

11. express77 unregistered

i read somewhere about rounded corners and slide to unlock. can u give me link about it details?

29. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Don't forget about rubber banding.

35. darkkjedii

Posts: 31289; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Very greedy, very but who isn't? I can't even get mad at em, cuz the out greedy the greedy at being greedier than the greedy.

36. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

I love Apple products, especially Macs, but damn they're so petty when it comes to business practices.

38. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Are you actually here to defend apple's greed. If Samsung is the one that is charging Apple would you still feel the same way?

13. willard12 unregistered

Slide to unlock, auto complete....exactly which is the company that's stealing? I don't believe these are Apple inventions. Besides, isn't stealing what great artists do?

30. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Key difference, great artists with giant legal teams and home ground advantage do.

16. tedkord

Posts: 17410; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

The overcharge steals as much as anyone.

10. wiiandds

Posts: 64; Member since: Mar 15, 2013

has anyone realised that of the patents apple is complaining about are software based and cant be patent. what a jock apple, make better phone and a lot cheap and stop your complaining.

12. willard12 unregistered

Apple wants Samsung to pay $40 per device for Apple's patents. Apple wants to pay $1 per device for Samsung patents.

17. tedkord

Posts: 17410; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

$1? Apple offered $0.001 per device. They told a judge that if she set a price over $1, they wouldn't honor it.

23. vincelongman

Posts: 5723; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Also Samsung's patents are around 3G/4G tech Apple's patents are rounded corners and slide to unlock, none of which Apple invented, they just patented first. The patent system is severely broken.

25. stealthd unregistered

Design patents don't cover inventions, they cover the ornamental design of products, to keep copycats/ripoffs/clones off the market. Samsung sued over 3G/4G patents Apple already paid to license.

37. vincelongman

Posts: 5723; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

The first S and a few other of Samsung old phones do look far too similar, too the 3GS. But for the S2, S3, S4, S5, Samsung's tablets, Samsung's design looks nothing like Apple's. So I don't see why the court is allowing Apple to use their BS generic design patent to sue so many of Samsung phones.

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