Apple might need to reveal iPad sales to prove Samsung tablets have hurt them
posted by Victor H. / Sep 06, 2011, 8:07 AM
Apple has managed to fight Samsung pretty successfully in Germany as we’ve seen recently, but getting an injunction on Samsung sales in the Land Down Under might prove harder as an Australian court may need to have Apple reveal sales figures for its iPad in the US and the UK. The data would help Apple better reason its case in court, while otherwise Apple’s claims would remain without any factual weight, Federal Court Justice Annabelle Bennett noted in Sydney Federal Court.
“Unless Apple puts on evidence showing the impact in the U.S. or U.K., I can’t draw any positive assumptions,” Bennett stressed.
At the same time, the judge doesn’t force Cupertino to unveil sales figures and denied Samsung’s plea for that.
Samsung represented by its lawyer Neil Murray made the opposite case saying that if people want an Android product, they will buy it. The huge battle has grown to downright ridiculous as Samsung is making a point that Apple has stolen its iPad design (pictured above) from the 1969 Stanley Kubrick movie “2001: A Space Odyssey.”
The latest victim of the Apple Samsung legal boxing match was the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7, which got unveiled at IFA and then quickly removed from the stands as if the announcement never happened. What’s your take on this Australian development and which company are you siding with?
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apple needs to get over themselves. compete with ideas or get out of the race.
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 8:12 AM 20
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Um, its 2001: A Space Odyssey, not 2012: A Space Odyssey. Wow.
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 8:14 AM 8
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A mistake of an apocalyptical significance, if we are to believe the Mayans. Thanks!
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 8:51 AM 3
apple needs to learn how to loose .. not go running to mommy(the court) and cry.
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 8:20 AM 11
i bought a MacBook Pro just not long ago, because I liked Apple and their products. In light of their proposterous recent compeitive behaviour I refuse to sympatize with Apple in its design game. They're going to lose all my sympathies if they go on like this. Period.
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 8:32 AM 10
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If Samsung is being sued for "hurting Apple's sales", then Nokia and RIM should be suing Apple for the same thing. I think we all know the intent for Apple to seek an injunction, but the operative wording used, is just plain childish. John B.
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 8:56 AM 8
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With ALL the money Apple is making off the iPhone and iPad...I dont think they can prove Samsung is hurting them financially. Didnt Apple set record sales with the iPhone 4 last year....despite the Galaxy S1 selling so many phones last year too? Samsung and HTC made huge profits last year...and Apple STILL made huge profits themselves. Apple just needs to give it a rest.
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 11:30 AM 6
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Bang on. I remember reading somewhere that those purchasing Android devices are actually wanting an Android device.... So lemme get this right.... for Apple's complaint to ring true, Apple makes the assumption that every individual person hunting for a tablet is getting in their car, thinking only that they want to go to their local tech shop to ONLY buy an iPad. But then by chance, the individual gets to the shop and has the opportunity to have a play, trial and compare the iPad to the Galaxy Tab 10.1 - and by chance the individual selects the Samsung 10.1 Tablet because they like it - Apple is then being screwed?? So Riddle me this - SINCE WHEN THE f**k DID APPLE BELIEVE THEY HAVE CONTROL THE OVER THE MINDS, DECISIONS AND SPENDING HABITS OF EVERY INDIVIDUAL ON THE f**kING PLANET???????????????????
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 9:26 PM 2
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"So Riddle me this - SINCE WHEN THE f**k DID APPLE BELIEVE THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER THE MINDS, DECISIONS AND SPENDING HABITS OF EVERY INDIVIDUAL ON THE f**kING PLANET???????????????????" They probably have employees hanging out in online forums...lol If I worked for Apple and saw some of the comments online...I would think it too.
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 11:37 PM 1
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So if someone hurts apple they go to cry to every courthouse in the world ?
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 9:19 AM 6
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I'm the biggest apple fanboy but I honestly would like for them to lose some of the these lawsuits so they would have to choice but come up with BRAND NEW ideas and it would be a win win for Apple and Customers.
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 9:31 AM 9
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We should be glad Ford didn't sue anyone making something with 4 wheels and a frame. If it had been Apple, they would have claimed to have invented the wheel and sought exclusivity.
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 9:50 AM 7
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Look this is all just silly. I feel like Apple just needs to make a better product & that is it. IF anyone can confuse an Apple iPad to a Samsung tablet, they are just stupid beyond any comprehension. Let Apple & Samsung battle in the innovation arena, not in the court house. This NEEDS to stop!
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 10:04 AM 8
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I understand how annoying itbis how apple is suing all the time. And just for the record I have an iPhone and android phones. I love samsung branded phones and apples. Also like motorola. That being said you have to admit samsung products are following the design of apples stuff. I think apple is in the right to try and protect everything that they have fought for. I personally don't think that the way stuff looks and acts for the most part should be able to be pattented. And I mean for the most part. I think how it works mechanically should be. I am an American and for the most part I gonna side with the American company(even though apple is Mosley outsourced and that in itself is kinda wrong) we are talking billions of dollars her over the years so I do think there is merit to al this bull crap. And it won't stop. It's a big game. All companies do it I believe. I also think that most know what they are doing and even expect to get sued and pay some money. As long as there are profits
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 10:18 AM 2
This isn't "expect to get sued and pay some money". This is freaking "Get sued and are forced to remove their products from the freaking shelves until further notice". And who gets to suffer? That's right - the customers. Besides Apple did not invent the Tablet, or the smartphone or the capacitive touchscreen or anything like that. They might have patented all of this crap - but been only successful in doing so due to the incredibly stupid EU patent system.
posted on Sep 06, 2011, 12:12 PM 2
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