ARM teases Huawei Ascend P6S, promises 'smooth gaming' from its Mali-450 graphics

ARM teases Huawei Ascend P6S, promises 'smooth gaming' from its Mali-450 graphics
Yesterday we learned ARM execs had a meeting with Samsung to put the final touches on its 64-bit Exynos chipset, and today the ARM-related news from the SIGGRAPH ASIA 2013 expo keep pouring.

ARM itself posted on its Weibo account a picture of the elusive Huawei Ascend P6S, an heir to one of the world's thinnest and most premium Android phone builds, which will sport a new processor.

Just like Samsung, Huawei makes its own mobile processors, under the HiSilicon brand, and the Ascend P6 sports its K3V2E variety - a quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor fabricated at 40nm, that uses a rather puny 16-core Vivante GC4000 GPU. For the Ascend P6S, however, Huawei is using a brand new setup, called Kirin 910 - again a quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 endeavor, but with a much faster Mali-450 graphics processor. 

Not that it will be of the graphics ranks put forward by Snapdragon 800 or Apple's A7, but the chipset will be a great improvement over the current silicon Huawei uses for its flagships, and, most importantly, its compatibility with games and bechmarks will be much better. In fact, ARM touts a "perfectly smooth gaming experience" from the Ascend P6S in the leaked picture.

source: ARM (Weibo)



1. _Bone_

Posts: 2155; Member since: Oct 29, 2012

Yay! Bring on the future. I way quite happy with my Huawei before switching to the Nexus 4.

2. JakeLee

Posts: 1021; Member since: Nov 02, 2013

Mali = Intel IGP. Worst choice for gamers.

3. aayupanday

Posts: 582; Member since: Jun 28, 2012

PowerVR = Best Choice for gamers :)

4. hmd74

Posts: 539; Member since: Jan 31, 2013

Adreno = For the Best ;)

5. cezarepc

Posts: 718; Member since: Nov 23, 2012

PowerVR = Best Choice for Gamers (only if devs optimize their apps for it). Adreno = Not the best BUT so popular that devs optimize their apps for it, making end user experience smoother than an otherwise more powerful PowerVR Mali = standard performance That's why I choose Adreno as GPU of choice, just like why I choose Toyota. There's just so many of them you'd never have problems with apps (phones/tabs) or parts (cars).

7. _Bone_

Posts: 2155; Member since: Oct 29, 2012


9. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

Correct me if I am wrong but considering PowerVR is used in all Samsung top shelf products and all Apple ios devices. And as we know together they both occupy almost the entire phone/tablet market ! I think they might have more developer support than Adreno !

11. cezarepc

Posts: 718; Member since: Nov 23, 2012

Alright, I am correcting you. 1. Samsung uses either Exynos chips (Mali) or Qualcomm chips (Adreno) in their top shelf products. Their exynos chips have been limited lately to Korea and some other handful nations so bulk of their top shelf phones are using Adreno. And their low to mid range phones (which is actually what makes the bulk of their sales) use Snapdragon in atleast 1 version. 2. Yes apple uses PowerVR. And iPhones have tremendous dev support. Why do you think gaming is so much better (in terms of smoothness) on iOS devices? I guess I was referring to PowerVR in android where apps are not optimized to a specific chip. Some apps are optimized for Tegra, some for Qualcomm chips, etc. Since Adreno chips are the most used chip in the android realm it makes sense for devs to optimize their apps for it.

12. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

+1 nice points. Thanks

16. Patbean

Posts: 2; Member since: Dec 02, 2013

Remember Mali is not just one design the Mali 400 family we are talking about here I would describe as standard But the t604 the 62x and t658 are a large stepup and the new 700 series looks like being an order of magnitude better. I think mail will become the standard for Arm based systems because they are cache coherent and can do so called gpgpu that is offloadingsome general purpose tasks from the cpu to the gpu

6. brrunopt

Posts: 742; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

haven't been living in a cave ? i suppose you haven't heard of the HD5200

8. vincelongman

Posts: 5628; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

That performs sightly better than the GT 730M or HD 8770M. Still only low-mid range laptop graphics.

13. brrunopt

Posts: 742; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

1st - the HD5200 performance is between a GT740M and GT750M 2nd - you are comparing a dedicated GPU to a integrated, they are in different categories ; 45W vs 80-90W... In the integrated GPU class the HD5200 outperforms any AMD integrated mobile GPU

14. cezarepc

Posts: 718; Member since: Nov 23, 2012

+1 HD5200 King of integrated GPUs.

10. Genersis

Posts: 219; Member since: May 29, 2013

Has the Mali-450 been in any other devices? I'm curious about it's performance.

15. Patbean

Posts: 2; Member since: Dec 02, 2013

My cyclone voyager 2 has a quad cortex a9 and a Mali 400 quad and has a amtutu score of 20400. Not bad for a sub 200 UK pound tablet. A lot of soc designers are moving to Mali mediatek Samsung and hisilicon . This has got a lot to do with why imagination technology share price has fallen from 7 pounds to less than 3 pounds.

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