5 things that would've made the Galaxy Note 8 a better phone


So, the Galaxy Note 8 is out and it's as awesome as expected. Top notch hardware, super shiny design, all the software features Samsung could come up with and then some, a new telephoto lens camera with OIS, so on and so forth. It's the bee's knees in every aspect for sure, but there's no perfect phone out there, right?

Yup, there isn't. So, we took out our nitpick glasses and scanned the Note 8 for anything and everything that rubs us the wrong way. We have to say, it wasn't easy, but here are 5 gripes we have with the Note 8. Got some of your own to add? Drop them in the comments down below!

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Galaxy Note 8
  • Display 6.3" 1440 x 2960 pixels
  • Camera 12 MP / 8 MP front
  • Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 835, Octa-core, 2350 MHz
  • Storage 64 GB + microSDXC
  • Battery 3300 mAh(22h talk time)

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2. Plasticsh1t

Posts: 3109; Member since: Sep 01, 2014

And less bloat. More power.

3. maherk

Posts: 6965; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Stereo speakers, smaller screen, 128gb as a base model, all colors available in all markets on day one, wide angle lens instead of the telephoto lens, less bloatware. But yeah, the #1 con in my opinion is the price, I don't care how much Apple charge their costumers, but it's crazy that we have reached the $1000 mark now. I can afford buying it, but I won't ever pay more than $700 for a phone, not even the S9 next year.

7. mikehunta727 unregistered

We are in the era of "ultra premium" smartphones lol so they can charge an arm and leg. $1,000 phones is absolutely nuts

18. kiko007

Posts: 7518; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

The ONLY two companies who are able to get away with those price tags are Samsung and Apple. If any other OEM steps in that range, their entire Mobile Division could go under, so I don't expect to see such prices from LG or HTC anytime soon. Although, I'd imagine many don't want to seem "inferior" to Samsung, so they may match out of obligation.

25. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

They get away with it, because you keep buying it at the price. What price is to high? When you consider what laptops cost and what they offer, $800 for a laptop is acceptable. Phones don;t do what OSX or Windows laptop can do on the same level. Its a stripped down version of the real thing. Yes smaller mobile computers are more expensive, than big heavy monsters that are available. But no phone is worth $1000, I don't care who's name is on it. Of course if you wnat to pay to play, you got to come up with the cash. But I want value for my money. I don't buy just because it exists. I am right now 95% sure, I won't be buying the Note or the next iPhone, because $1000 is ridiculous for phones that haven't changed must or enough to justify the cost. If we didn't pay for it, they won't do it. I will wait. The Note price will drop by the holidays. Even with monthly payments, I have rules on how much I want my phone bill to be, if I decide I dont want to buy the phone outright. Right now I have 6 lines on 2 carriers and I already pay $500 per month. I don't need a bigger bill. Its just not worth it. The Note 8 for me is not good enough for a $100 price increase even with what new things it has. I think after the Note 7 issue, it should have stayed the same price as a benefit to us Note users sticking with the brand and the model. But the iPhone with its catch-up features to the S7E is not worth $1000 and the Note 8 isn't either. I won't be buying either. I can buy a Note 8 a year from now brand new for less than $700. I can most certainly wait until then.

45. TerryD

Posts: 554; Member since: May 09, 2017

It looks like when a new phone comes out it gives the networks a chance to hike the prices. New S7 Edge on release day - £50 a month New Note 8 on release day - £66 a month note 8 costs about £69 more so over the 24 month period thats an extra £315 someone is making. Same thing happened with the iPhone, price of the handset was supposedly the same (for the 6) yet my missus ended up paying £10 more a month

30. gersont1000

Posts: 473; Member since: Mar 13, 2012

Even worse, companies like LG or any other will have an easy time raising their prices because as long as they are cheaper than Samsung or Apple people will go to them as a cheaper option but still paying more than before.Instead of, say, a $650 release price they can start at $700 or $750 and people will be glad it's $200 less than Note 7 but will still be getting screwed as a side effect of the overall price increases (and smart consumers will just wait a while for the prices to go down).

51. maherk

Posts: 6965; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Totally agree with you on this one. While yes they will still be cheaper than Samsung and Apple phones, they will still be pricier than they used to be before. Example for that is Huawei, here in Lebanon, the P8 which was their flagship at the time used to cost $300 less than Samsung's flagship, you could buy the Mate S for around $450. Now, the P10 was released for $540, P10+ for $620, Mate 9 Pro $770. The P10 and P10+ are still cheaper than Samsung and Apple phones, but they are around $200+ more expensive than they used to be less than 2 years ago.

21. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Stereo speaker son a device this small is stupid and I for one am glad Samsung hasn't made this move. Agree that 128 should be the base. The phone has a wide angle lens, all you have to do is take the photo in the 16:9 setting and not 4:3. Apple doesn't even give you that as an option. The Galaxy alreayd has less bloatware. The phone comes how it comes. If you like Vanilla Android, then buy a phone with it. Samsung phones are the top sellers because of what they do. They do what they do because of TouchWiz. If you want less bloat, buy a cheaper Samsung or pick L:G or anyone else. The beauty of Android is, there is no one size fits all and all those things that matter to are available elsewhere.

52. maherk

Posts: 6965; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

If Apple, HTC, Huawei, and plenty more OEMs already found a way to activate the handset speaker and use it as a stereo speaker to go along with the bottom speaker, then I don't see why Samsung can't do it. Wide angle lens as the one found on the G6, so no, it's not what I was talking about. No it doesn't, I've been using Samsung phones for 7 years now, and they keep on adding new bloatware. That's why I had to pay for the Package Disabler Pro app. And where did I say I prefer stock Android? Almost everyone on this site knows that I hate it as I find it useless and ugly. Just because I want Samsung to stop shoving their crappy apps into our faces, doesn't mean I don't like their UI.

63. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Samsung can, but they don't want too. Again, are you really into audio? Here is the specific issue of why its dumb. Stereo sounds movies audio between both and also plays music at the same time through both. The value of music is 0 - 256. Anything from 0 and 128 is played left and anything above 128 is played on the right and even values play through both. Here is why its dumb on most phones. First lets take the iPhone The iPhone has one speaker that faces up and the other faces down and away. So if you were holding the phone, one speaker is throwing sound at you, while the other way from you. HTC had it right because both speakers fired in your direction. But it was still dumb and here is why. The space between both speakers isn't far enough apart to hear the stereo sound distinctly. If you took a speaker and drew it on paper and you take a triangel and draw one point from the speaker, this is how sound travels. Because smartphone speakers are so close, the sound from each will cross each other, before the sounds reaches your ears. This means you ears won't hear many distinct stereo sounds, unless their values are at the edge of the spectrum. Meaning, in order to here a sound meant for just the right ear, the sound would have to be closer to the value of 256 vs closer to 129. Understand so far? On a mobile device, the deice needs to be at least 8" wide and the speakers would need to be at least 8" apart. The larger the speaker the farther apart they need to be. Which is why when you have surround sound, the speakers are spaced even wider than how the TV sits. Its done this way so that each speaker has the needed space, to have its volume and not have sound cross at ANY point. All stereo speakers do on a phone is make it louder. I don't need louder. The phone comes with headphones. I suggest this over stereo speakers on a phone, or get a tablet. Just because some OEM's do dumb sh*t, like remove headphone jacks, doesn't mean they all have do dumb sh*t. Samsung phones have less bloat vs older models like the S4. There are more apps and services but the phone also does more too. You can't expect a phone that does a lot to have zero bloat. Again as I suggested, it sounds like you prefer a phone runnign Vanilla Android. LEss bloat, stereo speakers and all that other stuff you like is available. If Samsung isn't for you, everything except what is specific to Samsung apps can be moved to another phone. Something iPhone users can only dream of having.

58. thxultra

Posts: 459; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

Can't agree more. The built in speakers are garbage on any phone. If I want to listen to something where I care that it is in stereo I use headphones. If I want to play it back louder I use a bluetooth speaker. I can care less if the phone has built in stereo speakers.

54. cocoy

Posts: 463; Member since: Oct 30, 2015

If it has a flat screen variant, I am willing to shell out 1k dollar for it. Unfortunately it has a curve screen only. Same reason why I don't want to grab an S8 even if it was being offered for me by my carrier for a small monthly amortization. I'd rather get an LG G6 even if the UI is a bit off for my taste but it can be augmented by Nova Launcher. I was hoping that it has a flat screen variant. I'll wait for V30 and Mate 10 or maybe Sony will release something with minimal bezels this year

70. darkkjedii

Posts: 31328; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

I just preordered mine. I can easily afford it, and it's the phone I want most, so it was a no brainer for me. The price is a little steep, but I'm not waiting for it to drop, or to get one on Craigslist. Phone world, where you sold your Note will have the unlocked version, but they'll mark it up.

4. jellmoo

Posts: 2628; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

I think that numbers 1 and 2 would have made me a lot more interested in the Note 8. I came to tolerate the curve on my S7 edge, but don't actually like it. And while the fps placement has been discussed to death, i still don't like it. It's two simple QOL items, but they impact your constant use of the device.

46. TerryD

Posts: 554; Member since: May 09, 2017

Yep, they need to sort out this front fingerprint scanner business pretty soon or they'll be losing customers. The curved screen looks great but I'm dreading getting a crack in it

9. redmd

Posts: 1943; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

1. Samsung has the A series if you want flat screen phones. Flagship = curve screen. Samsung has moved on. 2. Middle back FPS would have been reachable to many, but the current location isn't that bad. It will grow on you. And oh, the smudge-my-camera lens phenomenon never happened to me. 3. It's a trade off. Bigger battery might result explosions again costing billions of dollars of lost. They might focus on software efficiency.

13. adecvat

Posts: 647; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

3. UMIDIGI S2 PRO with same copied design has 5100 mah battery

86. AronWunarso

Posts: 244; Member since: Feb 21, 2016

It has 5100 mAh battery because its components.

55. cocoy

Posts: 463; Member since: Oct 30, 2015

Yeah but that A series isn't the flagship phone of samsung. Flagship phone receives update first and has the best software and hardware the pro mode setting on the camera has no time exposure option on budget phones of Samsung which is a no no for me.

14. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

5 reasons that makes PA's reason B.S.: 1 - Samsung makes phones with flat screens. If its important to you buy those or pick another brand. 2 - There is nothign wrong with the FPS location, no matter how many times you say otherwise. No phone was ever criticized for having the FPS on the back. So what its higher to reach. You don't have to lock your phone with it. So constantly repeating this BS, isn't gonna change anything. 3 - The battery size is fond. You have never criticized Apple for the iPhoen 6+, 6S+ and 7+ all having less than 3000MAH batteries considering its size. NEVER. So showing us your bias hypocritical BS isn't gonna be tolerated either. You're gonna get called out. 4 - The BS about the UX is just that. It works for us and it can be turned off if you don't like it. No one is making you use it. Again bitchin' about something so lame is, well just lame. Complaining about something you can turn off is complete stupid. Its like an idiot in a car complaining about what's being played on the radio. You can turn it off, or if you can't, you can get the fk out! 5 - As expensive as the iPhone is, with far limited features, low resolutions, lower IP certification, no headphone jack, even smaller battery, no latest hardware tech like BT5 or Gigabit modems and similar, you've NEVEr com[plained about the price. Apple bought Beats, but still shoves their cheap-tastic headphones in the box, and then try to also sell you wireless cheaptastic versiosn of the same. Samsung buys a audio brands and shoves premium higher quality headphone son the very first after squistions. The last Note was $850. Now you have new cameras, smaller dies, which are most costly to make, safer batteries, IP68 which is expensive to do on metal products, premium headphones and you don't have to buy any adapters because all you need is in the box. Is it worth an extra $100? The phone is already 0verpriced. However the next iPhone is gonna cost a starting price of $1000, are you gonna mention the price being to high? Since you never have? You made an article claiming the Galaxy S7 Edge isn't worth $800. So since the iPhone has less of everything the S7E had, how is it you haven't wrote an article saying the iPhone isn't worth $800. You can say whatever BS you want about Samsung, I'm not defending them. What I get pissed at is you tabloid tech writers, don't say equal justice for Apple, or anyone else for that matter of fact. Either say the same about all when it applies to all, or you basically come off as egotistical turds, who just attack Samsung for no reason whatsoever. Poor Jonny V, YTF did you come back to this hell hole? Did you not like AA?

28. kiko007

Posts: 7518; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

"Either say the same about all when it applies to all, or you basically come off as egotistical turds, who just attack Samsung for no reason whatsoever." Additional five features that would've made the Note 8 better for TechieXP: 1) Mandatory Auto-correct... 2) A tracking feature that would hunt down any nearby iPhone users and present pre-recorded evidence as to why they are inferior humans. 3) Citations... for all the essays to ensure full credit for school. 4) The cast of Hawaii Five-O executed live on Samsung's livestream. 5) Pussy. Doesn't matter who's, just someone's. Anyone's even. Dial up hooker functionality in Bixby when?

88. AmashAziz

Posts: 2934; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

You're a Savage!

36. dimas

Posts: 3383; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Dude why so angry? I also use samsung products but I agree to some of their opinions. And why are you so salty with John V coming back to PA? I mean, does it really matter if he came from other tech blog sites? Stop doing shotgun approach to the writers, it's not helping the tech community. Years past and you still talk like a toddler, remove your tailbone and grow up.

68. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

First off I like Jonny V. Because when he isn't cornered he can and have done good reviews. Its how he attacks Samsung that I hate. He left and went to Android Authority, which I felt was so he could express himself about Android and Apple openly and without bias vs the pressure at PA to basically hate everything Samsung and love everything Apple; even if you feel otherwise. You can clearly see this is fact in the articles and by their own admission which I have too. John is a Filipino and so is my wife, and in general Filipinos are very cool people. Even though I haven't met John, I have seen him in person from a distance and I seen how he is in public and he is just a very cool person. Any place where you can only be, if you are part of the "in" crowd is not where you should be. If workign a job means you can't be yourself, then you shoudlnt be at that job. John only uses this hateful vernacular on PA. When he went to Android Authority, he didn't act this way. Comes right back and he was the same as when he left.

90. Fellwalker

Posts: 538; Member since: Apr 04, 2014

1. This is about the Note. Please explain which other phone Samsung makes in a flat version that uses the s-pen. 3.it doesn't matter who they criticised or didn't. This is a pathetic amount of battery for a flagship that is going to get heavily used. I won't be buying one with that little power.

26. Hallyu

Posts: 790; Member since: Jul 21, 2015

This ugly slavery Apple's puppet site is getting more funny day by day. Hire me, I will find not only 5 or 8, but more than 50 things that would make a phone better than it is. Seriously, what is your f**king point, iPA? Last night you insulted Samsung on its biggest launch day, and now you are contradicting the fact that the Note8 is widely praised as the phone of year by major tech community. Where's you dignity in professionalism? It's becoming really digusting, SOTP IT!

38. dimas

Posts: 3383; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

That's why you'll never get hired as writer, you're too biased with samsung. You hate apple fanboys? Guess what, you're also a hardcore samsung fanboy. You're no different from them. A pot calling kettle black, be civilized and stop being a jack ass.

65. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

First off. you don't have to like all tech equally. But you don't have to hate someone else's tech, because you like another. You can like both Apple and Samsung, and like one more than the other. But if you say something about one OEM and its true of another, you should say the same for both, no matter which one you like, prefer or biased too.

31. dimas

Posts: 3383; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Battery capacity and small internal storage is the main reason why I'm passing on the note 8. Everything is great with this device especially the dual camera but for a large body and expensive price tag, big battery and storage are the only things I am expecting from samsung. I'll hold on to s8 and just wait for s9.

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