Verizon's Infocenter shows yet again a September 8th launch date for the Motorola DROID BIONIC
Again, we can clearly see that the handset is expected to hit landfall on September 8th with a Minimum Advertised Price (MAP) of $299.99. Now that it’s showing up in Verizon’s very own internal InfoCenter system, it provides additional proof that the handset is undoubtedly coming on that date – plus, it’s the centralized hub where employees are able to learn more about it along with other Verizon devices. Besides it arrival in InfoCenter, there isn’t anything else particularly new that we didn’t know already.
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2. bossmt_2 (Posts: 445; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
If the pricing point was cheaper, I'd say yes it's an easy buy for me, but as it is I may wait out for the Nexus Prime.
3. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4767; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
This phone is like the legend of King Arthur's Excalibur. I will believe it when I see it! lol
4. vantenkiest (Posts: 308; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)
I rather wait for the HTC Vigor or Samsung Galaxy S 2 ...
14. mobile junkie (unregistered)
Yes, I agree. Looking at the tentative specs I don't see anything to get that excited about, and that same old square design is getting old. The Samsung Galaxy S 2 sounds like it could be worth the wait but my cutoff date is Oct. 8th. I have the original Droid with the only issue being storage space. i had to delete quite a few apps so the phone could operate properly. So If I don't see the Samsung Galaxy S 2 by Oct 8th I may have to consider the Bionic or even I hate to say it the IPhone 5.
45. mwebber473 (Posts: 5; Member since: 24 Aug 2011)
I wouldn't consider the IPhone as a future phone for me. I believe that Apple has pretty much reached it's peak in terms of features with the IPhone. The Andriod having several different phone manufacturers is only now beginning to scratch the surface.
26. Knicknevin (Posts: 145; Member since: 18 Mar 2011)
Here Here!! With the information coming out about the SGSII, Vigor, and the NPrime; the Bionic seems rather lacking. Although, with G taking over M, perhaps they might finally get rid of Blur and make the devices easier to use?
6. Gcombs (Posts: 133; Member since: 22 Aug 2011)
Just another Droid X update/look alike. Its time we get some different smartphone designs. Its becoming quite (RIM)ish like with their Blackberry line same old ass form factor.
7. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
$300 for contract is getting pretty expensive. $200, ok for a flag-ship phone I can swallow but $300?
I think I will wait some more... more options and the price will probably lower. I am in no rush, my OG droid still gets the job done well enough.
Even the iphone had trouble selling at that price point. Though its pretty obviousl 200 will always sell better then 300.
9. Sniggly (Posts: 7297; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
You do realize that high end phones used to be three to four hundred dollars with regularity, right? That would include the epically s**tty Samsung Glyde.
21. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
yes and 1 year after the Glyde, the Moto Droid released as a premium phone for $199.
The price has gone up in the last year to $300...
Not sure if its the actual prices of phones or if just the carrier subsidy went down.
All I am saying is that for $300 on contract, I would think twice or possibly even look at no-contract. Actually no-contract is pretty pointless... since you can't really move carriers anyways.
Its a personal decision. $300 is $15 per mo on 20 months.... $200 is $10
25. Sniggly (Posts: 7297; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Okay, but consider what you're paying foe with the higher premium, a 4G phone with dual core processor, gig of RAM, Gingerbread (probably upgradeable to ICS), etc. It's basically what a premium laptop would've been about 4 to five years ago. In the palm of your hand.
29. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
Sniggly, sorry but "higher premium" then what exactly? Higher premium then my OG droid which is probably worth $50-100 now?
Again the OG Droid was a "higher premium" phone back in 2009, wasn't I paying for higher premium when I got it for $199?
It is all relative. Most of the time, especially in the tech world, new tech is pretty much the same price as old tech was when it was "new"...
I am sure there are reasons for the higher cost... some greed or maybe unavoidable costs... I don't know.
Sure dual core may have more of a premium then top end single core a few years ago but 50% premium?
I just know that I would not balk at $200, I will at 3.
31. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
If you went into your local car dealer and bought a model, top of the line all the extras last year, and go in this year for the exact same car.....You would expect to pay the same as you would have paid last year?
It's called inflation
35. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
what? your logic makes no sense. you evidently don't remember the days of phones like the LG Voyager costing $400 ON CONTRACT. i do so i'm not complaining about $300 for a phone that's vastly superior to phones like the Voyager and the Motorola Droid.
40. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
Darth8ball - If inflation where you live is 25% per year, I feel sorry for you. Hope you get at least that much in a raise for cost of living each year. And yes cars generally cost the same from year to year. Just like video cards do and other computer equipment. The difference is that the equipment improves in performance, while last years model goes down in price.
Yes there is inflation, cost do go up but not by 25% per year.
ThumActually - Yeah I remember when a computer was 3-4k... The voyager was 4 years ago, a life time in technology. If I were to do the math... voyager 4 years ago... $400... Droid 2 years ago $200... That would mean the bionic should be free????
Am I saying the bionic is way over priced, maybe a little. I know I will think harder in pulling the trigger, that is all.
But YOUR logic is what doesn't make sense, given the history of technology pricing. At least sniggley alluded to possible reasons why the price for top tier phones have gone up instead of the trend of going down (or relatively the same)... Dual core... could the process be sooo new is drives the price up? Or at least costs more then just speeding up single core chips with each generation... maybe.
41. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
dude, do you just say things without thinking? how is it can you get a newer & vastly superior Flagship device cheaper than last year's Flagship Device which technically didn't bring anything new but a shiny new OS? construction is a factor you know. you have all this new stuff in phones like the Bionic and to actually be able to turn a profit you have to price it higher to justify building it or paying whoever else for their part in building it. there's no pattern as you see it.
48. Droidman80 (unregistered)
As I recall the voyager and those phones never hit the $400 mark except at full retail. Check your facts. The voyager at FULL RETAIL was $430. Contract was somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 or possibly lower. I personally have been waiting for the Bionic since January and am definately going to get it when it comes out.
49. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
well actually i was a Benjamin off. phones at that time like the Voyager and the Razr 2 were $300 on contract with a $50 mail in rebate. i was a little off but my point is still valid.
36. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
I know, right? iPhone was expensive at first, but as the tech got better and improved, it became cheaper. Now you can get an iPhone free and it's always going to be better than anything Android can offer which is malware, inconsistent updates, forced closes, crashing, lockdowns, horrible build, and so on.
47. StillStuckWithDroid (Posts: 65; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)
whatever homo boy.....keep thinking you year behind the times technology is the best. Everyone knows your a moron
8. alecgale (Posts: 55; Member since: 29 Jun 2011)
I would have gotten the bionic like a month or two ago now i am no longer interested and am looking forward to the SGS2 HTC vigor or nexus prime
12. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
I have to agree with alec, with one small question. I was fired up to get the Bionic Etna. I think this release of the Bionic is the Targa version of the Bionic namesake. Although disappointed and frustrated I now have gone on to waiting for something else unless I try it on Sep. 8 and it totally blows me away.
24. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
They delayed the Bionic (cancelled the Etna) to make improvements, which we now see with the Targa Bionic. They doubled the RAM, switched from the Tegra 2 to OMAP 4, and have apparently improved battery life and fixed whatever bugs the Tegra-LTE combination caused. If they had released the Bionic a month ago, they would have had a major win on their hands. But now that the Nexus Prime, Vigor and GS2 are on the horizon, people aren't impressed. Too bad, I like Motorola and the Droid brand.
11. Donovan (unregistered)
I am seeing all the posts for the Driod BIONIC and nothing really on the Samsung Galaxy S 2, yet everyone is talking about it. It is my understanding that the Verizon flavor is called Stratosphere with an "expected release date of Sept 8th" too. Any specifications (I know this is all subject to change at a drop of a hat) other than what is posted for the AT&T versoion? QWERTY no QWERTY? Thank you in advance for any information.
I am not 100% sold on this phone especially with a $300 price tag. I will probably wait till the IPhone 5 is released as I suspect the BIONIC price will drop signifigantly at that time.
16. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
dude, the Stratosphere is not the Galaxy S II.
it's this thing.
32. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
I believe the Samsung Function is the GS2 Verizon brand name. Now if my hunch is correct, and again it's just a hunch. The release of the GS2 whatever it is to be called on Verizon and AT&T will be on hold right now under heavy pressure from Apple. Those are the two carriers that carry the iDiotPhone and Apple doesn't want this phone to be in circulation.
13. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
I can name 3 phones that will be better than this: HTC Vigor, LG Revolution 2, Samsung Galaxy S II. Wait maybe a month longer and all 3 of these will be out.
17. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
the only one i'd say MIGHT be better is the Galaxy S II but that's only because LTE is not confirmed. the Vigor will surely be impressive but it definitely won't be better than the Bionic and the Revolution probably won't be unless it has stock Android and it's not Binged. then it would have a chance.
19. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
Dual core, 4.5 inch 720p screen on the Revolution 2 and the Vigor. And they don't have MotoBloat 'nuff said.
20. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
the dual-cores in either probably won't be as good as the OMAP4 in the Bionic and if that 720p screen comes with more extensive battery drain it'll be worth sticking with qHD for the time being. think about it, the "Revolution 2" will have a bigger, higher resolution screen, LTE & a dual-core processor and it's supposedly as thin as an iPhone 4. think the thing is going to have battery life even comparable to the rumored 15 hours the Bionic gets? plus the Bionic has Webtop which is a really good feature for an LTE phone because essentially it doubles as a 4G enabled netbook and it'll likely get ICS MUCH quicker than the models you mentioned because it has an OMAP4 processor which is the only one officially supported by ICS. oh and if the "Motorola Application's Platform" is anything like it is on the Droid 3 which i OWN btw it'll be a much better experience than you can get on ANY other Motorola phone currently availiable oh and there's also Motorola's reliability when it comes to sound quality and wireless radios. need more?
22. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
If ICS is anything like Gingerbread has been, we will not see it on most phones until late 2012 or early 2013 anyway, so I'm not too worried about the whole ICS thing TBH. Battery life is of no concern, honestly. I've dealt with the Thunderbolt and managed to get it to last all day on a single charge, worst case scenario I'll purchase a back up or 2. And I have a laptop, I can use pdanet I really would never use webtop. You may be correct that the OMAP4 processor is better than the rumored snapdragon processors, but it wouldn't be noticeably better for what I would use it for. I hate the qHD on both the X2 and Droid 3, it is good on battery, bad on the eyes IMO.
27. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
okay, whatever you want to do is fine, i don't care but the Bionic still has everything i mentioned over the other releases this quarter. like i said, it'll still get the update quicker no matter how long it takes for the updates to start rolling out i'll bet you the Bionic is one of the first ones if not THE first one other than the Nexuses of course. the Thunderbolt only has 4G LTE as a big power drain and it has terrible battery life when not dealt with. well OMAP is still better. that's your argument right? the other phones are better. you aren't really telling me how they are better, you're telling me why you could do without the better features of the Bionic. it's not bad on my eyes. i got used to it. especially considering it saves battery life.
37. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
4.5 inch 720p HD screen. I said that earlier in my second post of the thread. With apps like Netflix, the Verizon Video service, and other video streaming this is a HUGE selling point for these 2 phones. That is enough to make them better. They don't need a laptop dock. Who wants to spend $200+ on an accessory for a $300 phone anyway?
39. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
yeah, i saw that. i think qHD looks fine for video playback. it won't make them better if battery life is the trade off to have those fancy screens. because one you can have the netbook experience without having to get tethering or paying for data on another line and two while you're watching Netflix on your tiny 4.5" screen i'll be watching Netflix on my Laptop Dock and if i wanted to keep watching what i was watching on the go i'd have the battery life to finish what i'm watching and not have to sacrifice having my phone or have to change batteries all day
44. beatlesfan (Posts: 150; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
the 4.5" screen is perfect for video on the go or while not at a TV. The laptop dock defeats the purpose of a mobile phone, which is to be mobile. If I am at home there is technology such as DLNA, HDMI, etc. and with full HDMI mirroring, I could watch the netflix movies on my 55". Here battery life is absolutely nothing because you can plug the phone in to charge it. I know you are a Moto fanboy and everything, but you have to admit that the Vigor and Revolution 2 spec for spec beat the bionic. 1.5 ghz dual core + 1 GB ram > 1 ghz dual core + 1 GB ram. 4.5 inch 720p HD > 4.3 inch qHD.
Also, I would rather pony up an extra dollar a day for tethering that can be stopped at any point than pay $200+ for an accessory for my phone.
46. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
you're still not getting it. there's still a degree of mobility with a laptop dock and i can still take it out and watch it on the go while the 4.3" qHD screen with the Bionic's superior battery life will let me ACTUALLY watch something. the 1.5GHz dual core will probably just be an MSM8660 that's not underclocked and that still won't even beat a 1GHz OMAP4430. you know there will be cheaper bundles so don't give me that.
15. twhit (unregistered)
Please explain how these other phones are better? first of all, you haven't seen any of these phones, the samsung s2 doesnt have better specs. So basically u are judging a phone off of rumors.
23. asgasfasda (unregistered)
Bionic vs GS2? It all comes down to preference in screen(I personally can't ever go back to regular screens, Amoled looks incredible), battery life and the big deciding factor(IMO) is the LTE. If the GS2 doesn't have LTE that is a 100% deal breaker. Again, after tasting these godly speeds I can't go back to 3g, I can update like 15 apps in about 1 minute, load web pages in 3 seconds, use streaming apps without the need to ever buffer. I just can't wait til 2 years from now to see what phones are going to be like. Holograms please.
28. PotDragon (banned) (Posts: 214; Member since: 22 Jul 2011)
So tired of this....
The Bionic is coming on Verizon....The Nexus Prime is not.
It is not like you have a choice.
We KNOW...not guess...not assume...not rumor...KNOW the sgs2 is a 3g phone. If you are cool with that for the NEXT TWO YEARS then go drop $300 for one. In Oct.
I am done waiting. Bionic is the one.
30. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
Sadly I am thinking as a Verizon customer, you are right. Though I think I will wait for a price drop.
33. StillStuckWithDroid (Posts: 65; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)
all of these conversations really pointout one major thing
Motorola REALLY SCREWED UP THE RELEASE ON THE BIONIC!!!!
I am in the same boat with many here and on other sites....the Bionic was my next phone....no doubt about it. I have been a Motorola fan for many many years.....from their phones to the Motorola surfboard....bluetooth headsets....so on and so forth. I was just holding my upgrade waiting for the Bionic....$G...Duel Core....oh baby
and I waited
now......Sorry Motorola....you can release it now but with the choices that I have coming (Vigor,Function,Prime,Rev2) I can not commit to it at this point....I have to see these other phones first.
you BLEW your window of opportunity with MANY of the customers you were dying to get......they COULD have had a nice 4 month window to DOMINATE the market and blew it. Somebody in the senior management needs to be shown the door for this major gaffe. I bet the sales on the Bionic will be less than HALF what they expected and they have no one to blame but themselves
34. StillStuckWithDroid (Posts: 65; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)
as an add on......with making people wait like you did and push the release so close to the next wave of super phones...to come out and price it at 299.00 was just damn ignorant
42. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
it seems nowadays that the frequent release of smart phones has created a culture of people who don't buy phones to use them but they buy them to have some sort of bragging rights to make the next persons phone seem inferior. at first, to numerous people, the Bionic was a must have but now its like its old news & the phone hasn't even released yet. SGSII (which i think is ridiculously overhyped - same form factor as most of the Samsung smart phones out there, just enhanced options under the hood just like the Bionic - so i don't get the how the situation is diff. for the SGSII, Vigor or Prime) this is all people talk about on this site, which is leaving very little room for Android-users to chastise iPhone users for the dedication to iOS. new phones to replace the current tech is always going to be the case. All manufacturer's are guilty of slight changes & similar designs to their previous models.
As far as pricing goes, why would anyone expect the same cost for something that is newer technology? You want it all...you're going to have to pay for it. 4G radios cost...that HD video capture and all the high end processors cost. Its amazing to me how people don't want last year's tech in a device but they expect to pay last year's prices for new tech. Kinda selfish i think. Last time i checked...32GB iPhone's are selling pretty decently as well as Droid Charge at the $299 price tag. If its that important to you, you won't let a $100 differential stand in the way of something you really want...i know i wouldn't.
50. Come'On Man (unregistered)
Man this looks just like the Photon for Sprint, I am so tired of waiting for this phone. DON'T GET IT TWISTED I love Android but I think I may have to move over to Apple. I have had the OG X and now the X2. They both are freezing, random rebooting, getting hot, force closing and error messages. Just too many problems to keep up with.