Teardown shows Apple once again pays $200 to build an iPhone
15. Finalflash (Posts: 3087; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
That is the biggest advantage of an iPhone. Ask any ifan, it isn't about what you get from apple it is about what you give to them. Apple making massive profits off your back is the greatest advantage of the apple ecosystem. It is the last thing left that apple is ahead in. Now if only they could somehow patent profiteering and then all apple fans can rejoice on a permanent advantage instead of ones they keep losing to the competition.
39. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
It amazes me that tech enthusiasts seemingly, are the most ignorant to how this company has operated for 30 years. Looking pretty doesn't equate to strudy. And a product that is carried an average of 14 hours a day, shouldn't be delicate.
In the 28 years of owning cellphones, I have never once had a problem with plastic. Not once. In fact, my Evo 4G is still going strong today for my Nephew.
48. palmguy (Posts: 536; Member since: 22 Mar 2011)
Gave my son my 2011 sprint moto exprt(moto pro for vz). Put it on page plus. It has been dropped a million times without any case. A lil chipped around the screen but works just as well as the day I received it.
57. TheMoltenD (Posts: 109; Member since: 13 Jul 2014)
Steve Jobs was the greatest con artist in history, make them a device with other companies technology, make them feel like they are special for owning it and sell it for 2x what the competitors are selling similar devices for.
27. vincelongman (Posts: 4425; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Also don't forgot most important feature, the Apple logo
52. engineer-1701d (unregistered)
what r&d its a old m8 prototype that was not used. why do you think the camera lens sticks out so much.
68. Af1rPA (Posts: 688; Member since: 12 Jun 2014)
The same R&D team who allowed the iPhone 6 to bend in peoples pockets? $0.50 on R&D.
31. EnigmaticPsychotic (Posts: 62; Member since: 26 Nov 2013)
I think the Glass pricing was more about getting the right people on to the new ecosystem.
34. Finalflash (Posts: 3087; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
iFans don't get the fact that glass is largely a beta and development release right now for a moon shot project and future tech. They see the large price tag and feel jealous that they can't pay that kind of money to apple for tech from 5 years ago.
46. deepblack (Posts: 50; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)
Google uses money to invest their product.
Apple does nothing.
49. Pattyface (Posts: 1612; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)
Nope Google does all the right things, is never wrong and its products blend
32. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
most expensive parts ever.
63. aksa123 (Posts: 320; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)
To cover up the multi-billion sapphire glass research.
2. seanwhat (Posts: 280; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
Can't believe they still get away with this. It's sad how many people come under the category of 'blind followers'.
19. frustyak (Posts: 209; Member since: 08 Mar 2010)
It seems to me that Apple gets singled out for this, yet Samsung, HTC, LG, Ford, General Motors, Volkswagen, etc do the exact same thing. It simple economics. Sellers want to sell their wares for as much as they can. Buyers want to buy the wares for as little as they can. Somewhere in the middle is where the seller is willing to sell for what the buyer is willing to pay, and that's what the item is worth.
It doesn't make iPhone owners 'blind followers' anymore than owning a Galaxy S5 makes someone a Samsung 'tool'.
24. Jobayer (Posts: 167; Member since: 22 Feb 2013)
I don't blame much on Samsung making so much profit since , it is always pushing the boundaries of tech . Sumsung is also one of the top spenders in R&D . You'r right it's doesn't make anyone fool for choosing Apple or Samsung . And it's good to have completion in the market but it would be more delighting to see them contribute to pulling the boundaries of tech .
62. joey_sfb (Posts: 5741; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Most companies will re-invest a large portion of their profits back into their businesses in the form of R&D, advertising and forming business partnerships. Its important because this create jobs for moms and dads.
All I hear from Apple side is they hogging up money in their Apple treasury. By this simple but extensive action could create an unbalances economy.
26. seanwhat (Posts: 280; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
Yes it does. They're blind followers because they don't consider any of that stuff, they just buy the phone. i know that because if they did consider any of that stuff, they wouldn't buy the phone and we wouldn't be having this discussion because they'd realise how much apple .rip them off compared to other companies.
33. vincelongman (Posts: 4425; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Exactly, that's an important reason why the Nexus are growing in popularity
Much fairer prices and quick updates
Though Google still charge $50 for a small upgrade in storage, but can't really complain since the initial price is much lower
47. PBXtech (Posts: 1032; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
Costs get hidden in subsidized pricing from the carriers. It also explains why they sell massively in the US compared to other countries, the US subsidizes just about everything on the four top carriers.
3. fzacek (Posts: 2486; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)
What a rip-off. Apple is milking so much money out of consumers by charging $200 for a little more storage. Shameful...
22. elitewolverine (Posts: 5183; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
A little more?
A 128GB card from Amazon for a class 10 extreme with tops out at 90MB/s transfer rate with adapter, meaning not phone speed but pc adapter speed, costs 130$
The memory in a phone, goes through more testing, yields are much different, materials used different, and the transfer rates range upwards of 200/MBs blowing sd cards out of the water by more than 2-5 fold in speed.
And they charge 200$ wow so evil of them.
44. BlankSpaceNai (Posts: 127; Member since: 23 Apr 2014)
Ha ha ha ha. I love when people try to do this..
You have to consider that the format apple uses for their devices are very specific in order to grant you that transfer rate, its a simple way of 'zipping' a file in order to create an easier to transfer file, then unzipping it at its destination instead of each one, one at at time. Thats not worth $200 my friend. Not only that, but the file types used in apple devices are rather different, sometimes larger than the normal.
You have to remember that apple doesnt do things the same way as everyone else. Although the numbers LOOK impressive, it doesnt mean that everything is the same under the hood. Does this mean apple is better? FOR apple users Yes, this is fantastic, for everyone else, you have software messing with all your stuff in order to make it 'better' for apples software.
58. elitewolverine (Posts: 5183; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
ha ha ha ha back at ya. You really did try hard, commendable but really, all you had to do was google or bing or yahoo or....
This is even realizable on Android. I don't even have an iPhone to compare it to, so it is not me trying anything, this is REALITY.
This was rather easy to find.
Yes please tell me how awesome 'zipping' files are. Here if you install a game to this memory card (notice this cause it is not noted what speed etc he is using), while it is being read, to load objects, items, etc into ram. You will notice 6x times performance hit in the read section. Think about that. 30seconds to load a level? Nope try 3 minutes instead.
Also know what the funniest part about all of this is....
Even the Galaxy S5, the flagship of Samsung doesn't support UHS-I, which is what you need to get the advertised speeds of your memory cards. Which means you wont ever get above 20MB/s write unless it is a peak fluke. This could also be found on xdadevelopers for android bout people unable to get 20MB/s on their S5's.
67. BlankSpaceNai (Posts: 127; Member since: 23 Apr 2014)
Then tell me, since your so intelligent.
Why do you need such speeds? Your pictures? your 20 second videos to transfer to your pc? Yes, because my transfer rate of my enlarged formatted files that I cant even get a true to life compared to standard sizes, I'll just believe that. So if you have to wait 30 seconds for a level to load or '3 minutes' according to you. The question isnt why its taking so long, but what the hell are you playing that requires that much.
See, You can throw anything you like, but the fact remains, unless you can find a standard usage that requires your 'speed' that your trying to sip with your wine, it can be ANY number you can think of, and it wont matter at all.
Technology is supposed to assist you in your daily life. What you consider needed for you to make your standard way of living easier. Your screaming about a speed that, for all intents and purposes, arent needed in 95% of society. For hard core media enthusiasts, yes, the transfer rate is extremely important, but they WONT BE USING THEIR PHONE TO DO IT.
So if you like, please try again. It will be fun, but I can pretty much bet money that your facts are all based on what others say, not on a business/practical/functional case in which you would use it for a common situation. When you use links to back you up, it seals you in the coffin with people who actually do use their devices. IT shows your ignorance in your facts, because its based through someone elses report, not your own. Its based off someones opinion of how THEY use their devices, not your own. Not just that, it shows you cant take a situation yourself, you need someone to back you up, which shows your inability to justify your case with hard solid situations that actually MATTER. Common, apple people are all about this, you should know better.
^^ But your free to try our home game.
70. elitewolverine (Posts: 5183; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Sure I can, but I don't have a website, nor do I simply care to create one.
What you have done is gone the route of - oh crap he was right, oh crap internal memory is of higher quality (proven fact I wont do the research for you), FASTER, MORE RELIABLE, and as such demands a premium.
SO, going with your OWN claim that 95% of the people wont care. You are right. Hence why android being 'powerful' is useless, it is useless unless in the hands of an enthusiast, and if you are going to go that route, most likely they have a real pc to do their job. It is why for me android is nice, but not 'needed'. I have my note 3, not cause I needed a phablet, but because I 'wanted' one. I have 3 desktops, 3 tablets that do way more work than my phones will do at this point in time. So for my own claim? My own situation....it matters 0, zilch.
What matters is I have links with proof, you do not, nothing more than you blowing hot steam at being wrong for specs, and my hot steam that comes next.
71. elitewolverine (Posts: 5183; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
What matters, is people who think that a 128gb card you find on amazon is on any way par with internal storage. The only thing it is on par with is space. I proved that. Point in case, my point which you can scroll up, and READ, was stating that 200$ upcharge for internal memory, which is, more reliable, faster, and ultimately SUPERIOR to sd card storage in specs, is not a evil rip off like people are lead to believe.
Want real situations?
My job - I deal with android daily, .com errors, gap errors, crashing, sd card failures are the BANE, of my every single day, 10hr a day existence.
User experience - 19yr old comes in with a s5, complains that their device is running slow. I come to find apps have been installed on a old sd card. You know how everyone defending sd cards here are doing, that thing of, oh I have this card for 4 yrs crap, and it is the root CAUSE of their reasons for slowdown and crashing. That is how it affects me. How it affects return rates for Samsung, return rates for my job, and ultimately a user customer experience.
See this one is important, in my line of work, people actually think I have their gmail password, they think after they do a master reset I have a magic tool that can bring back their deleted pictures. Oddly I almost do, but its never 100%. Or when their sd crashes. They blame the carrier, me, as if me - our company selling them the phone is the reason their piss poor excuse for judgement like you have just done, means it is my fault their 4yr old sd card has died.
It is the reason misinformed folks, who use an app, run low on space, move crap to the sd card, then blame me, that it is my/our fault their device is now slow, choppy or getting sd card read errors.
You see, I can line this comment section with a matter, solid, recorded evidence of interactions EVERY day, of miss-informed people like yourself.
"Oh hey I got a 50$ android droid with 4gb of ram, I don't install many apps, I bought a sd card for 30bucks, 32gigs, how come im still low on memory and crap runs slower." Her let me explain why. Oh wait 'BlackSpaceNai' said your user experience doesn't matter.
72. BlankSpaceNai (Posts: 127; Member since: 23 Apr 2014)
And now we get to this part.
Lets see...where do I start...
"Hence why android being 'powerful' is useless, it is useless unless in the hands of an enthusiast, and if you are going to go that route, most likely they have a real pc to do their job."
Heres the thing about onboard technology, this being your processor, your ram, etc etc. This determines the overall stability of the device. You buy a powerful PC to handle a large amount of different situations or programs. You buy an SD card to STORE things. Its meant for one thing, storage. How fast it goes does not change the fact that it STORES things. If the transfer rate is that important to you, there are many other ways you can perform the SAME function. The speed of the TRANSFER rate between devices when it comes to a removable card, is the fact that you can switch it from device to device. Thats why the SPEED of the card is only important to a small group!
The Device or Phone in this situation is a different story! Its something that requires LONGER and deeper usage of. It needs the power to back up a NUMBER of users from small to heavy. Androids arent powerful just to be powerful, its to satisfy a large number of DIFFERENT people, creating a sense of individuality because it doesnt matter WHO you are, the device is meant to support its user, while Iphones are meant to conjoin everyone into a single TYPE of user by controlling their usage entirely. See the difference?
Next, your entire other lists of reasons..like the 19 year old having a slow phone. First off, really.....
Second off, there are a number of OTHER reasons his phone can be slow. What model is it? Whats his usage? Maybe hes overgrown the phone, maybe it needs to be cleaned, maybe the ram is full, maybe he needs to be trained on better management. Those are all POSSIBLE REASONS, for his phone to be slow, and even more, its probably the real reason than he has apps on his sd card..really man..
Ive been in your shoes before, Ive dealt with people and STILL DO who have the exact same problems as you've listed. You believe you know the issue, but your looking at it from YOUR point of view, not theres. You have to realize that everyone uses their phones different and its up to you, to use your knowledge, to walk in their footsteps to see where things have gone wrong, NOT JUDGE THEM FOR NOT HAVING YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
When you try to sound like you know what your talking about, when you assume that people are doing something wrong, all your doing is showing how biased you are towards them. You believe your more worthy of them of that technology, but when someone can prove you wrong, you grow immediately nasty but in reality, if you would show EMPTHY towards those customers, you wouldnt be blamed, they would trust you because they feel you understand them, not that your better. Look at this, Im giving you advice on how to do your job better....Be humble first.
73. BlankSpaceNai (Posts: 127; Member since: 23 Apr 2014)
But if you would like to continue to argue with me about how SD CARDS ARENT THE REAL WAY YOU DO THINGS!! HARUMPH, IT SHOULD BE THIS THIS THIS. Feel free. I will gladly continue to argue with you about how an SD card should work for everyone but then I could turn it around. I could easily say...well..if everything should work like the iphones storage does, why doesnt it have sd card support? Because it would mess with the internal storage, or because it would give too much control to its users?
I could say, well, the speed is so important for everyone, why isnt it a main subject of apples major benefits? Why are you the first ones to talk about this issue? Why does no one fully utilize this massive strength of the iphone? I know I would, but I dont, why?
I might say, oh, your insulting me about how someone bought an sd card to expand its storage, but your insulting it on its speed, yet your arugement IS THAT THEY RAN OUT OF ROOM, which is nothing to do with the ORIGINAL reason of 'why is the speed important enough for you to INSULT the use of the SD card?'
When your speaking with spite instead of clarity, you can make a lot of large loopholes, you might even fall into one, say perhaps, try to nitpick a line I say that would lure you deeper into your pool of knowledge that might make you believe you can trump me with 'facts' but the original question of why remains. Why is the speed important. I can answer that question for you if you like, but I'd like to see what you try to pull next ^^ its quite enjoyable.
78. elitewolverine (Posts: 5183; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Again you have failed to even comprehend what I stated. You asked how it affects me. Given. Next? you simply failed to read the 19yr old had a S5. In fact, IT WAS HIS SD CARD, that was the problem with stability and slowness.
Lets go step by step since you keep going on and on about user this and user that.
19yr old, galaxy s5, up until a few days ago was running just fine, installed some apps on his sd card, next few days it starts to run slow and glitch. He has had this card for 4yrs. Low and behold, I move app he was using back to main memory no issues, moved it back and forth 3 times and each time it was the sd card. No further explanation needed. Also if you seriously think I didn't check the things you mentioned, I laugh, mainly because you have still failed to grasp my ORIGINAL COMMENT.
Android has long offered the benefit of moving apps to sd cards, other than security reason, you know why some app developers do not allow this? SPEED, say it again, speeeeeeeeeed.
Why is it important? Buttery smooth user experiences are what people feel and see. What you think is a simple non-existent 1 second hiccup, is something so large, that android with it's kitkat spent months trying to make it more smooth. You cannot have this smoothness if your device is literally loading the information anywhere from 5-10x slower.
You also answered your own inquiry, sd cards are meant for storage, need a cookie? You still have to move files. Whether that file is attached to a game, an application, a movie. How many speed tests crop up on this site alone comparing device a to b.
Also the point of offering an sd card, to go with your other 'claims' is so that you don't out grow your device.
Also your talk about 'humble', you have no clue how I deal with customers, I will leave it at that cause its just more filler for your post to again circumvent my ORIGINAL comment.
200$ for memory, that is MORE reliable, FASTER, has LESS fail rates, than a 130$ stick you cant get to 1/5 the speed of my nokia 521 and your spanking new s5 is not robbery.
If it was just that easy, if speed did not matter, then Samsung would ship with no internal NAND storage, and basically have a CHEAPER sd card style system do the work. And what I have talked about, is why they DONT.
Also a cpu, just as a fyi, spend a lot of the time waiting on ram/storage. So when you see loading screens yes a cpu can help, but actually faster storage helps MORE.
Do a simple check on syrim load times on a ssd vs a standard hard drive, with all things being similar.
80. BlankSpaceNai (Posts: 127; Member since: 23 Apr 2014)
Somehow your taking this wayyy more defensively than I thought, which was expected, plus your trying your best to make your comment seem justified when its just elitist in general.
First, Let me help you with your arguement.
SD card transfer/read&write speeds are important for a few major key things. Speed is one. But the concepts of this are based on the size of its file. This being a concept of displaying pictures rapidly and professionally. This is very important for people who have a very fast lifestyle, like say a photographer. The reliability of this allows quick and easy use for people in need for conducting demos, music, pictures, or even in business in order for larger files to be read and load quickly. These are its uses, and from a different standpoints, its not a requirement, nor is it to be considered the norm simply due to the fact that for its price point, it doesnt offer enough for everyone to utilize.
I believe you and I are arguing over different points. While your continuing to go back to why the SD card is good, I continue to point out why its not important for majority of people. You can scream how great something is for your entire life, but until it has an actual, instant effect for people, it wont matter to them. Your 'original' comment was to speak on the differences of internal and external speeds according to storage. Yes, there is a clear difference. That much is true, but its not something that needs to be addressed so promptly as you say.
For an average consumer, they only care about how much room they have in their phones for the latest pictures of that cute funny cat across the street. The next above average person wants to know just how much room they can fit for music, pictures, movies, files, etc. Above that would be the type of files stored, and its compatibility with other devices. For your 19 year old kid, your example truly means nothing because thats a simple example of app support, not sd card support. Did you tell him he shouldnt store ALL his apps in his SD card? That they run faster when on the internal storage? How is that an issue with SD cards then? It doesnt change their purposes or their uses.
When you hunt for 'problems' it just shows your pride in a nasty way. You may continue to speak about the speeds of cards all you like, but it doesnt matter at all until its there is something that requires it that everyone will respect. Im a tech geek myself, I understand what your trying to say, but you come off too prideful, elitist, above the rest. Your going on with lists of facts, but thats what people hate. If you have facts to prove your point, thats not for us, thats for you. That's something for you to nod at and say 'so I am right on this part' but its not a weapon to swing around to say "I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG, YOU ARE WRONG"
There are hundreds of other reasons to list, but when your trying to beat me in a battle of 'wit' I suppose then continue to rant.
81. BlankSpaceNai (Posts: 127; Member since: 23 Apr 2014)
If anything, this is a perfect example of the differences between Android people and Apple people.
While we scream about why apple people are 'dumb' or 'bahhhh' or whatever. That they dont know technology, that they are being scammed or robbed, Im guilty as much as everyone else in judging people for the phone they choose. Apple consumers dont care though, thats all it is. They are happy in their choice, even if we feel its wrong.
But Android fans, us? You? we have something thats way worse. Something that we need to get over if we want to be respected more, not just here but other places...
We have to always be right..no matter what, and thats an issue you suffer from as well, as well as I. We dont know when to stop, we always feel like we're fighting for the right thing. Not all of us are like that, but its a blaring flaw on our side, and it makes us look elitist, and like jerks.
Think about that.
83. elitewolverine (Posts: 5183; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
It becomes simple, and no rant needed. This is the facts that you nor I can deny. Internal Storage is Faster, More Reliable, More expensive, and as a user experience better in terms of performance. Yes this is noticeable right out of the box, it does not take a genius to realize this. I proved this in my skyrim example and can continue to do so doing simple google searches how faster read/writes, as a whole, offer much better customer experiences, no ands ifs or buts. Because if it did not, android would come on 2gb internal storage and offer a sd card as its sole means to operate, because 2gb internal plus a 4gb-8gb sd card is cheaper than putting 8gb of internal storage.
You keep going on about 'for the majority of people'. When the majority of people WILL notice performance. When the majority of people will run into storage concerns with todays 4k video recording, picture taking, and app storage, where a game can take up to 1gb of internal memory and when your S5 comes with 10GB, that memory isn't gonna last forever. And your argument about 'majority' is why apple doesn't include an sd card, because the majority simply want it to work, they don't want to have to buy an sd card, worry about it failing and more, purchase more on top of the original phone, so apple does it all in one, with added benefits that benefit ALL users and not just a subset.
So I will end with my original statement that YOU responded to:
128GB for internal storage that is faster, more reliable, lower yields and overall a bigger gamble. Charging 200 vs 130 is not shameful.
If you respond it might as well only deal with this above paragraph, everything else is fluff, long winded for no point except to escape and deny the original concept that I presented, that you responded to.
53. engineer-1701d (unregistered)
what the hell are you talking about you may want to check the internet not the amazon internet that has higher prices then most. my 128 card cost 98 bucks.
60. elitewolverine (Posts: 5183; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
If you have to search that hard for a sd card, then it has proven apples point. Amazon is the largest online retailer, most people will go there.
It is all mute, in the end sd cards do not offer the read/write speeds anywhere near internal storage speed.
my 521 nokia, gets 161MB/s write speed, and with a 64gb 40MB/s card that was had for 20-30 some odd bucks, it get 15MB/s on write. Read is even a bigger gap, posting 300+ read speeds, well above even the highest sd cards you can buy and get in your phone.
56. av911 (Posts: 190; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
And when you get a new phone next year, you'll have to pay the $200 again, when I can just move the 128GB microsd card over to my new phone. And if I want additional storage, I can buy more microsd cards.
What a great deal Apple is providing!!!!!
59. elitewolverine (Posts: 5183; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
I could care less, don't own an apple. Before my 925 and Note 3 I wont be buying one.
This is a simple reality that the idea of just buying an sd card, and popping it into your phone is somehow on the same par, performance wise as internal storage.
It is not. Not from quality, not from speed, and surely not cost.
64. iushnt (Posts: 1687; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)
What to do with that transfer rate when everything are sandboxed in iPhone?
5. Sakeem (Posts: 459; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
Can't be mad at that. Expenses down, profits up. That's the goal of any business. Actually that is my goal. Keep my monthly expenses far less than my monthly take home.
7. Commentator (Posts: 3685; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
What?!? You monster! You mean you're NOT offering to pay more for gas, food, and shelter than they're asking from you? You're totally ripping those people off! What a bunch of blind followers!
6. CLmaster (Posts: 69; Member since: 06 Sep 2014)
I know Apple charges obscenely high prices, but it's important to remember it is not just about the hardware, they also spend money on software, services and research and that's a daily expense. So it isn't really like they're earning 450$ for each... Exactly like with Samsung, HTC and others... But it's true that they overcharge compared to others
8. Commentator (Posts: 3685; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
It's also important to remember they're the most profitable company in the world.
For the record, who cares if they charge what they do? It's not like they're charging exorbitant prices for medicine to sick people, or food for starving people. Smartphones are basically an impulse-buy at this point.
54. engineer-1701d (unregistered)
they dont spend money on software its the same os with a few color changes here and there and only opens apps. devs pay apple. what services you pay for itunes music so you pay more. think for a second.
66. CLmaster (Posts: 69; Member since: 06 Sep 2014)
color changes and itunes music... you're brilliant
9. blackberry_Boy (Posts: 213; Member since: 27 May 2014)
Smh that's a shame How much things actually cost but we pay hundreds maybe thousands for a item that is old in weeks wonder how the cost industry is a Bentley cost a couple hundred thousands but maybe 5000 to build that's a better concept to wrap your mind around.
11. shinywindow (unregistered)
same people who believe in aliens and global warming/ climate change. sheep will be sheep.
55. engineer-1701d (unregistered)
thats stupid so we the humans are the only life in the galaxy right, and the bacteria on mars is not real, and global warming is happening i am in that field of work dealing with it, its cause by more activity from humans thats all.
so take back that remark.
12. zunaidahmed (Posts: 809; Member since: 24 Dec 2011)
One thing not to forget Apple creates their own os which cost money(a lot more compared to....), while the other companies don't they just tweak it.
20. nathan.carter (Posts: 416; Member since: 11 Aug 2014)
apples os does not cost that much to create. why do you think it has been the same since 2007?
13. pavsidhu (Posts: 214; Member since: 20 May 2014)
We can't really complain, people forget Apple is solely a business.
14. geordie8t1 (unregistered)
what do you expect, this is apple, they are one of the best in the business at milking the customer at extortionate rates for often inferior products, but at the end of the day they are a business so it is terrible but it can operate however they want, it is actually the blind followers that are the blame, if they stopped buying the devices then they would have to reduce the cost, but that will never happen, people will buy regardless, and the phones are most often bought on contracts so the customer doesn't see the amount up front, its almost like hidden away the overall cost! this is why i will never have an apple product....actually it is because of their closed ecosystem and locked down os and incompatibility with non apple products, a flagship droid will always be leaps and bounds ahead of apple in terms of usability and functionality, i dont care to much how a phone LOOKS and much more about day to day and intensive tasks
17. nathan.carter (Posts: 416; Member since: 11 Aug 2014)
Just say it out loud. Apple is good at brainwashing people into buying a cheap peice of aluminium. Id hate to see what would happen to the plastic version. They would have to inject it, in order for it to stay one peice.
38. Garmac (Posts: 21; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)
Well Samsung tries really hard to brainwash people into buying a cheap piece of plastic as well, they are just not as successful as Apple; beside it's still plastic... maybe they need to switch to aluminum