Sprint raises ETF on advanced devices to $350 on September 9th?
Currently, Sprint has a $200 ETF on its devices and a Sprint representative could not confirm or deny the new, higher fee. With more and more higher priced smartphones hitting the market, the carriers have more to lose from a customer who breaks his or her contract, thus it makes good business sense for them to raise the ETF. Of course, on the other side of the equation are account holders, some of whom dying to break a contract in order to pick up the latest and greatest model at a subsidized price.
Before you lock yourself into a 2-year contract, make sure that the phone is a model that you wouldn't mind having for the next 2 years (even though some carriers will allow early updates, it is best to assume the worse case scenario), and that the mobile operator that you are chaining yourself to is one that will provide good cellular service in the places you go to, and offers the features that you want on your device. Also, know yourself! If you are the type that must have the latest and greatest new smartphone that is launched, it might be best to wait just a little bit longer to get the phone you really want. Just realize that it is the nature of the beast that as soon as you buy that new handset with a dual-core processor, a new model will be announced with a quad-core processor under the hood.
1. NYTEACH (unregistered)
I'm sure it's iphone related. Hope tiered data isn't next
5. theBankRobber (unregistered)
No your wrong about it being just the iphones fault. I mean both HTC EVO 3d and Motorola photon are more then $500 off contract. The SGSII will be up their and if sprint gets the iPhone, you already know it will cost more off contract then any of them. When my wife got her EVO 3d, it showed on the paper they gave her a $350 rebate. So if she canceled her contract, it would be $200 etf, which means sprint will lose $150 on the phone. It just makes sense.
6. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Unlike a Crapdroid, an iPhone will last you for two years or more since Apple continues supporting their devices unlike places like HTC and Samsung who stopped supporting their devices that are a year old. Lol, people get an iphone and be ahead of the curve.
7. att.arn.rno (Posts: 9; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
::sigh:: Actually has a point - A lot of Android phones DO manage to get left in the dust by their manufacturers/ carriers. I mean didn't the Evo 4g just hit it's EOL date?
22. TOdoubleD (Posts: 114; Member since: 28 Mar 2011)
EOL only means they aren't manufacturing the phone, it doesn't mean it won't be supported. It's what the haters like to believe, but it's simply not true. Android phone makers can't continue to make a phone for years, there's way too many. If they were only making one phone like Apple, they could do that.
32. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Lol, if that's what gullible Android fans want to believe. Give it six months and Android phones stop getting support.
42. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
The Evo4g has been out for like a year and a half. Thats a pretty long time to sell 1 phone. Most phones are off the shelf in 6-9 months. EoL only means its not made anymore but has nothing to do with support. Only the iphone has a long shelf life because they dont make many different models. If there were more than 2 iphones to choose from the 3gs would have stop being made a long time ago.
8. theBankRobber (unregistered)
I have friends who have iphones and most of them have cracked screens and cases from dropping their iPhone, while me on the other hand have a EVO 4g and have dropped it, had it ran over by a truck, and dropped it in the sink while doing dishes. My phone works with just a few small scratches on the screen. Not 1 person with an iPhone can say their iPhone has survived what my EVO has survived. That's a real quality build of a phone. If your talking about updates, my EVO 4g has gingerbread and will get ice cream. Unlike iPhone 3gs got the ios 4 with missing features, my Android device got all the features of gingerbread. Android just like iPhone when 1st launched had a few bugs, but any Android device with a dual core CPU and 1gb of ram does not have lag issues like previous Android devices. My EVO 4g is a year old with current updates and still outperforms the iPhone 4.
12. firebo14 (Posts: 77; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
All thanks to Corning® Gorilla® Glass. :]
The iphone does not have that.
26. RedRover (unregistered)
had it run over by a truck huh....i call extreme bullcrap. lawl at your 3gs comparison to the evo 4g btw.
31. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
why don't u try a sensation with sense 3.0... it is very laggy... haha and do u even know what u r talking about with the 3gs? u mean 3g which shows ur ignorance... and ya, honestly bs with the truck unless u had a case.. in which case an iPhone can do to, as shown by being dropped out of an airplane...
33. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
BS, the Evo is a fragile device. I've seen people drop iPhones on cement and not get nothing more than a scratch.
39. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
They did a test with the Nokia Astound...
They ran it over with a chevrolet Van and not even a scratch on the astound.
45. simplyj (Posts: 404; Member since: 23 Dec 2009)
the iphone 4 survived being dropped from 13500 foot drop. Let's see your precious evo do that. The evo can't even stay charged and the charge port doesn't even work after a few months. Not to mention that android is very flawed in the way it performs. My blackberry performs better than an evo, and that's saying a lot.
2. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3043; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
350 is way too much I don't care what anyone says. Droid 3 is only 450 without a contract and yet if you bought the phone directly though Verizon you still pay 200 for it. Add up the 350 dollar early termination fee plus the additional monthly fee and taxes and they make themselves a nice expensive profit.
3. M1K3YWR19H7 (Posts: 18; Member since: 31 Jan 2011)
thats why you dont cancel your contract early. simple as that!
41. thetruth10 (unregistered)
as a utility these etf fees are outrageous in general, If Sprint lost that battle in California "simple as that" than it shouldnt be allowed in other places either. These ignorrant gullable, lemming phone psychos oops fans are hilarious you talk phones like they are something more than a device made to call, if your such a lemming that your company has you diving off the cliff with their marketing hype claiming its righ, "simple as that" your incredibly ignorrant. Bottom line $350 is rediculous if they are losing so much money on phones cut some of hte subsidy out...."simple as that"
21. Sprint_Rep (unregistered)
They lost money by subsidizing the phone, paid a rep commission, and had to pay any overhead related to the sale of the phone (rent, misc costs, cust care/tech support calls, etc...) Even after charging the ETF, Sprint's not really in the green.
28. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
I didn't know people were so big on canceling contracts. $350? who cares...is two years with a phone really that unbearable?
4. JT82 (unregistered)
@Roryrevolution - That is true but keep in mind the ETF does decline each month by $10 for advanced devices on VZW. I am not a fan of ETF's but i see the business sense. You could simply always buy each device at full retail OR buy the first phone at a subsidy - use it for however long you want, sell it on ebay and then buy your next one at full retail. There's a lot of different avenues for consumers to recoup the cost of the devices.
14. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3043; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
verizon still charged me 350 after 9 months of service before.
27. ChrisTheTechGuy (Posts: 85; Member since: 04 Nov 2010)
if you paid your bill on time or didn't have any service interruptions it should have gone down, unless there was an ID10T error somewhere
9. Goldeneye (Posts: 362; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)
There you go Sprint we all knew you couldn't afford to be the value carrier forever,good and desirable devices aren't cheap, $10 fee for certain handsets first, now raising ETF, tiered data is next they just taking their time on this one just like VZW did with the iPhone, "get unlimited data with your iPhone here" for a few months and then bam! tiered data, haha
15. man of the hour (unregistered)
19. TOdoubleD (Posts: 114; Member since: 28 Mar 2011)
ETF being raised and tiered data coming, was going to happen with or without the iPhone. From your username and some of your comments I'm wondering if you're the Goldengirl on Sprintusers?
37. Goldeneye (Posts: 362; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)
I never said that is because of the iPhone, I just mentioned what VZW did which could be the same this time who knows, relax don't get mad because sprint is changing is a business first, BTW your username is kinda suggestive, are you saving for implants? Just saying
10. Krishaun27 (unregistered)
CONTRACTS ARE FOR SUCKERS! All the more reason to buy your phones outright from ebay or Craiglist. Pick a carrier you like for your first contract and thats it, never buy from them directly again.
18. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
He's right. You're all suckers for buying them directly from carriers. I buy my phones off eBay and Craiglist.
40. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
They are not suckers, but i myself never buy phones on contract. Here in sweden you can buy unlocked phones without contract from 2 different carriers if you want. Or you can buy your phone from non carriers as well, unlocked and without contract.
11. The Sprint Mole from Washingto (unregistered)
I work in one of their corporate retail stores and can assure you the ETF will be $350 for all smartphone activations as well as upgrades starting September 9, 2011.
As an example, if you did this in one of the Sprint corporate retail stores:
1. Activated a MoPho for $200 (full price $550).
2. Cancelled on the 31st and pay the $200 ETF.
3. $200 (discounted price of MoPho) +$200 ETF = $400.
4. $550 (full price) -$400 (discounted price of MoPho and ETF) = $150
5. That $150 is your potential profit (realistically $50-100) from selling on eBay, Craigslist, etc.
When Verizon Wireless had the BOGO on the BlackBerry Curve 8530, this is how people were able to rake in some serious cash which is why they increased their ETF to $350. Sprint should have been on this bandwagon along time ago.
16. E (unregistered)
hey dumba$$ from Sprint corporate, stop violating the terms of your employment. who gives a $hit what all our stupid customers think because 90% of the problems they have had they caused themselves. The appropriate response to these trolls is "no comment"
13. lubbalots (unregistered)
Android phones depreciate within 1-3 month period after its initial release. Then a new device shows up! My assumption is, plenty and cheap equal number one in market. Not everyone can afford an iphone and theres not enough wp7. Add to wp7, fear or lack of knowledge or too fanboish to even try.
29. tyrantx619 (Posts: 1; Member since: 28 Aug 2011)
I am tired of people stating that Android Phones are cheap and made for people that cannot afford iPhones. You still can get an iPhone for a comparable subsidized price on AT&T and Verizon for the same price as any high-end (superior spec) Android phone. Also, Sprint will be receiving the next iPhone in September/October just like every other major carrier.
Please stop with your "elitist" bashing of Android. It shows your vast ignorance of reality.
And for everyone else, it is all a matter of choice. Don't let anyone try to pressure you into buying any device you are not comfortable with or does not suit your needs. The iPhone is a great product, yes (for those who want it) but so are WP7 and Android. phones.
Both Android and WP7 offer superior (NOT ALL) phones on a spec by spec basis vs the iPhone. Like always it is a matter of personal preference. So please don't try to espouse the idea that iPhones are superior products to justify their price. There are equivalent and better out there with other mobile OS's
36. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Funny thing is that my phone went from 199.99 to 49.99 after 1 yr. Atrix, Inspire are already 99.99 since being released in february. Other Android models such as PHOENIX and Flipside were cheap from day 1. My cappy has done very well for me and it now has 2.3.4 Gingerbread....
17. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
A tweet from an unconfirmed source on a forum board from a "sprint insider"..
yea.. ill hold my breath now.
23. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
ETF for smartphone/advanced devices is 325.00 for AT&T, so this move by SPRINT makes sense. I wonder if they would allow early upgrades for customers by letting them pay 250.00+2 yr contract phone price, just as AT&T does?
25. ngo2dd (Posts: 823; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
why are people making a big deal over this? This is for people who terminate their contract. I really don't care if it is a 2 year contract. I am not paying 550+ for a phone when you still have to have paid the same amount off contract for your monthly fee. It is better for sprint if you paid for a phone off contract people they don't have to subsidize your phone.
30. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
its about principle with people. they don't like being told how long they have to have a service so they buy it for full retail (thinking that they are smarter than the rest of us all along, to your point, they end up paying the same monthly cost) so in the end they paid double the cost for a phone i've gotten for cheaper with the same service. if you have it like that to buy a $500+ phone every 6 months that's fine but i call it wasteful. Also where people think they are "sticking it" to carriers by buying a phone & not getting on a contract what they don't realize is that they are doing the carriers a favor b/c the carriers don't have to worry about recouping the funds lost on the discounted equipment pricing through an agreement. so yet again, jokes on you.
35. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
ok, then you have a choice of contract or no contract....simple enough.
48. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
and thats why Tmobile makes the distinction. If you want to buy the phone at full retail it will save you up to 480 per line over 2 years compared to Tmobile's regular rates. You dont even wanna know what the difference is between tmobile's value plan rates (full retail phones) and ATT/VZW's rates for 2 years... lol. its insaine! (approx 1300 a line!!)
38. bronxbomber (Posts: 82; Member since: 10 Apr 2009)
I can hear the customers..what? 350.00 for an etf? Nobody told me that.sir its on your agreement. Lol
46. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6816; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
This is worse than paying 250$ for ETF
49. john (unregistered)
@Lucas..the 3gs is a phone you ignorant dumbass..and as for the 13500 foot drop, the sky-diver didn't know when he actually dropped it, so they billed it off as dropped from the max height..he could've dropped it at a hundred feet or maybe even ten.