Nokia's camera guru debunks the myth about a Lumia 910 with 12MP camera, creates another one
Answering a fan request to comment on such a Lumia, he tweeted "nope, doesn't exist", but confirmed that the Lumia 900 has the same 8.7MP camera sensor in it that is found in the Nokia N9 and the Nokia 800, with all the bells and whistles.
Still, when asked what if he can disclose something about the next best cameraphone, he enigmatically hinted "sure, it will have a Nokia logo on it, just like the current one :)". If he means the rumored Nokia 803 successor to the Nokia N8 with optical zoom and all that, the Finns better announce it at the Mobile World congress this month because the wait is excruciating.
We'll be at the MWC expo to relay the announcements for you, and will keep tabs on any new gear that appears.
source: DamianDinning (Twitter) via GSMArena
1. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
"the Finns better announce it at the Mobile World congress this month because the wait is excruciating." Just gotta love that line, and the wait is really excruciating at best.
2. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
sweetness. i always wonder though, why is it that only nokia takes phone cameras seriously. outside of nokia there are so few real camera apertures in cell phones.
3. Tarkio (Posts: 30; Member since: 17 Jan 2012)
What is even worse than phone makers not taking cameras seriously, is the fact that some phone makers make digital cameras anyway. Since phones are already seriously eating into the point and shoot camera market, it would seem like someone would raise the bar and make a high quality camera phone.
5. bluechrism (Posts: 99; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
The N8 has been the best camera phone for 18 months or so now and I can't think of very few features that haven't improved in that time on high end devices.
HTC's 16MP Titan 2 might change that, and it's be interested to see photo's from the 13.1MP Fujitsu and Toshiba phone's in japan, but still, the N8 has Xenon flash and they don't so the N8 will still probably perform better in low light.
I think this is partly due to size and cost, as well as perception. Remember, the N8 has that bulge on the back for it's lens and flash and the trend is so much towards thin devices and bulges like this would spoil a thin device. Another reason might be cost and i'm certain dual LED flash would be cheaper than Xenon, and people can then use the phone as a torch. Lastly, while people want to take decent pictures with their phone, most don't see it as an SLR substitute or even a substitute for an equivilent point and shoot. And so as there is no expefctation there, manufacturers don't need to strive to meet it and are happy that people will accept a cheaper lens and flash, which will also fit nicely in their thin device.
6. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
actually, you probably just hit on the exact reason why we dont see better cameras in phones. most phone makers are camera makers. if the phone cameras are exellent and on par with real cameras, why would you buy a real camera too? it would eat digital camera sales.
9. Tarkio (Posts: 30; Member since: 17 Jan 2012)
Well, not many phone makers are camera makers at all. Definitely not most. I can barely think of more than 1 or 2, and there are dozens of phone makers. But if Samsung would rather sell $150 point and shoot cameras that people keep for 5 years instead of $600 smart phones that have great cameras and get replaced a lot more often, I fail to see the logic.
10. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)
But the point is in your argument. If Samsung sell a product that customers come for every after two years, dont they make more sales and thus more revenue than if the customers only come back after 5 years?
4. bluechrism (Posts: 99; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
ZFor all those hoping for a top end Nokia Windows Phone to be the N8 successor, I was told by a nokia PM at CES that it would be a Symbian device, thought he was sure WP would get one eventually. Therefore, whenever a high spec camera is rumoured for a Windows Phone from Nokia, as yourself this: Has a Symbian N8 replacement come out yet? If not, don't expect a Windows Phone one.
The reaosn is simple - photo optimization algorithms are much more stable and better optimized on Symbain than other platforms, and even MeeGo more than Windows Phone right now. Hence N9 has better camera than Lumia 800 even though it's same camera module. Nokia will want to make sure they can process high quality images on a Windows Phone before announcing a WP with some sort of super camera as it would ruin their reputation for this if they did that and the lens was amazing, but the results were poor because the software wasn't optimized.
8. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)
since nokia is with microsoft now, i wonder why they dont just share their camera software or code from symbian so microsoft can make better stuff for windows phone.