LTE phones to be thinner than Verizon's, says AT&T
These words come straight from the mouth of AT&T’s brave leader, Ralph de la Vega. So why is AT&T claiming that they can produce thinner 4G LTE devices then their main competitor? The answer is simple. The LTE phones that will run on AT&T’s network will use a technology called circuit-switch fallback.
When a 4G phone ventures out of a coverage area, the device will fall back to a traditional circuit switch-based 3G network. Verizon devices differ in the sense that they need two radios; one for 3G and one for 4G LTE. Not only does it add bulk for having two radios but each radio requires their own power source which adds even more bulk. Devices like the HTC Thunderbolt and the LG Revolution are big for a reason.
In all fairness, Verizon has already brought 4G LTE to the forefront and has already blanketed many cities with the blazingly fast network. As the technology grows older it will definitely decrease in size which should allow Verizon to make some svelte devices as well. AT&T should be launching some LTE devices in the coming months so we will all have to see if they can deliver on their Chief’s promise. Tell us what you think.
1. iwebdroidberry7 posted on 12 Oct 2011, 17:31 20 5
AT&T will have thinner LTE phone, that will conveniently lack any LTE service at all.
4. msa1988 posted on 12 Oct 2011, 17:47 16 2
Why should we give them time? It's their fault they waited so long to release LTE. I honestly think they will always be a step behind Verizon...
10. Thump3rDX17 posted on 12 Oct 2011, 18:19 11 0
they still only have 5 markets and Verizon expands by like dozens a month.
25. remixfa posted on 12 Oct 2011, 20:49 11 1
ATT- "our LTE phones (that arent out yet) are thinner than yours!!"
VZW- You may save a millimeter or 2, but ours can actually make calls.. and USE LTE, not just be LTE phones! :)
ATT- We have LTE up!
VZW - yea its the equivelant of 5% of our LTE service.. for the same price. Great job!
29. JeffdaBeat posted on 12 Oct 2011, 22:05 6 0
If this is what AT&T is stooping to, they've hit a new low. At this point, I'm more impressed with Sprint's rollout than I am with AT&T. Instead of building up with HSPA+ network and calling it 4G, they could have been working on LTE.
I'm sorry, but I do wonder where exactly AT&T spends the money they get... I mean, their network isn't horrible, but for the amount of customers they gain, I wonder how Verizon was able to build such an awesome network while AT&T is just hanging out doing nothing.
35. Goldeneye posted on 13 Oct 2011, 00:07 2 0
Part of that money is in Apple's bank accounts and oh yeah is also been spent "merging" with other companies, lol
3. snowgator posted on 12 Oct 2011, 17:45 7 0
Yeah, being a year later than your biggest competition will allow you to be a little better on tech. Of course, than Verizon will be a year ahead of them on the next LTE upgrade, but that is beside the point.
5. FUNNYWORLD (unregistered) posted on 12 Oct 2011, 17:57 6 1
I think that this is a publicity gimic because their LTE won't roll out for another year AT LEAST. Verizon is throwing down 4 to 5 new cities every other month coverage is still going to be better which Verizon prides itself on.
The phones aren't honestly that big, I love the feel of the bionic but I'd still choose the charge which isn't too different and even now with the Vigor and Prime being slimmer than that, it's not even an issue.
I can understand going with trying to get a smaller LTE phone such has a 4in sreen so people don't have to complain with handling giant or oversized phones but thinner? Correct me if I'm wrong but is this really a problem that Verizon should look at?
27. alpinejason posted on 12 Oct 2011, 21:48 0 5
actually funnyworld you are mistaken att already has LTE up and running in 5 cities i think it is.it is here in houston where i am at.and i can honestly tell you that i have a laptop usb modem and i am getting no less than 8mbps up and no less then 20 mbps down and have had peaks of 29 mbps down which is much faster than verizon.sorry verizon its true.
28. Thump3rDX17 posted on 12 Oct 2011, 21:54 3 0
AT&T has had 5 markets since they launched and also you're getting faster data because AT&T's LTE network isn't as congested with traffic as Verizon's LTE network. before it became Congested Engadget was able to get a Galaxy Tab 10.1 to get up to 44mbps. i sometimes get around 20mbps on my Droid Bionic.
30. VZWB (unregistered) posted on 12 Oct 2011, 22:31 3 0
29 down / 8 up? That's all? Verizon's advertised 4G speed is actually one of those false advertising things that I am actually happy about because I've gotten 34 down / 24 up peak and 20s down/ high teens up on AVERAGE in my Bionic. I have seen other users get peaks of 44 down. Sorry ATT but this is true real world typical user experience. My typical moderate use battery life is 17 to 20 hours which is not too bad either.
32. Thump3rDX17 posted on 12 Oct 2011, 23:09 1 0
you're lucky, you must be in a less congested area with good coverage to be getting those speeds. i have great coverage but LTE is really catching on here and the traffic keeps it in the teens and the low twenties.
6. iblackdroid posted on 12 Oct 2011, 18:01 4 1
The Droid razr and nexus prime are skinny enough...
7. bolaG posted on 12 Oct 2011, 18:06 6 0
Vzw will have thinner phones by the time att rolls out with their LTE phones. Of course if we were to compare VZW frist LTE phones with ATT soon to be first LTE phones ATTs phones would be thiner...but that wouldnt be a fare comparison.
12. Yeeee posted on 12 Oct 2011, 18:38 3 0
thats because lte was a brand new technology when it came to verizon also
8. Goldeneye posted on 12 Oct 2011, 18:12 7 2
ATT please STFU how about expand your 3G, then maybe deploy LTE out of Texas and then say something about LTE devices, gimme a break!
9. nb2six posted on 12 Oct 2011, 18:14 4 1
Typical AT&T, skewing the info for their benefit. You gotta love big company advertising.
11. corporateJP posted on 12 Oct 2011, 18:34 7 1
It looks like everyone is in agreement that AT&T pretty much sucks.
18. darkkjedii posted on 12 Oct 2011, 19:00 0 2
I've had all four major carriers here n las Vegas,and can honestly rank them ATT sprint Verizon and Tmobile.
14. Gowless (unregistered) posted on 12 Oct 2011, 18:48 3 0
At&t is basically useless up in colorado...( mountain areas anyways)...I work for verizon in evergreen, co and theres no other cell stores up here for a good reason
16. Gowless (unregistered) posted on 12 Oct 2011, 18:58 2 0
guess thickness really does count :(
19. ap1989 posted on 12 Oct 2011, 19:04 5 0
at&t first get LTE coverage and LTE phones then talk
21. cupcake posted on 12 Oct 2011, 19:44 2 0
Oh wow I can just imagine at&t reps using that line as a sales gimmick. It'll probably even work on the less informed.
22. Thump3rDX17 posted on 12 Oct 2011, 20:17 1 0
in this case it's not the LTE radio that's the problem, it's the fact that Verizon has to fit a CDMA radio in there.
23. warlockz posted on 12 Oct 2011, 20:23 2 0
What good if their signal is below average still
24. Jyakotu posted on 12 Oct 2011, 20:46 1 5
No matter what AT&T does, they will always get hate. I personally think AT&T has great service and I think their customer service is very helpful as well. I don't care how long it takes AT&T to roll out their LTE network, as long as it gets done. Pretty soon, LTE-Advanced will come up later on down the road so they can take as long as they need.
26. Tristann posted on 12 Oct 2011, 21:44 1 1
I've had far better coverage and no dropped calls with ATT with the 3 months I've had them, than with t-mobile and they had a cell tower 5 blocks down! I would rather wait and receive something than works than something that was rushed out and have problems :)
31. Carlos (unregistered) posted on 12 Oct 2011, 23:06 0 5
The only reason why vzw is so ahead like you guys say, is because they riches. While in the mean time, T-Mobile, Sprint and At&t took are taking baby steps, and building what they call 4gyou (HSPA+, wimax) both technologies deliver faster speeds than the networks 3g so that's good. So when they fall out of there LTE, the drop isn't going to be dramatic like verizons case. (Except for Sprint wimax that has been having some serious issues, but are supposed to be ironed out) Plus with verizons there were a hand full of problems with there LTE, that shut down the entire network, from time to time. So don't critize At&t network when you have never seen it in live action. Plus you guys blame At&t like they are the last competitor rolling out LTE. There is still sprint and T-Mobile. Plus sprint has plans for next year which is a long shot, and who knows what might happen if it gets delayed. By that time att would already have had a good LTE coverage, not the best but decent. And for T-Mobile, nobody knows the earliest people say is 2013, but the fact of the matter is that T-Mobile USA isn't sticking for long.
33. Thump3rDX17 posted on 12 Oct 2011, 23:16 3 0
i guess Verizon is richer and smarter by your logic. Verizon didn't invest in a 3G upgrade tech like HSPA+ instead they made an all out assault with LTE from the get-go. implementing the the launch of a new network is a tricky task. there's bound to be some bumps during the initial roll-out. i'm sure AT&T will have their bumps too. AT&T's roll-out of LTE isn't anywhere near as aggressive as Verizon's, it may be because of the extra bandwidth they're waiting for from the T-Mobile merger but in all this time of waiting Verizon is gaining ground and a lot of it.
34. Phullofphil posted on 12 Oct 2011, 23:30 2 0
For 1 thing my verizon 4 g service in the portland area faster than my wifi service I get comcast. But it's not just what you're using the have to be fast it's. Also the other end. If you are getting information of a slow server then its gonna be slow. But anyways that's not my point that I want to make. Verizon lte. Are thicker right now because the chip technology is very primitive as far as lte. 4 example I just read an article about that 1 company that makes the snapdragon process.ors. just for example lookup third new s 4 processors coming out probly next year. Ill c phones thinner than a pencil the main issue right now also is the battery life. I have a droid biotic it is the fastest phone I've ever had. The chip technology is just about to break newgrounds. Unlike you can ever possibly imagine. Quad core chip sir just around the corner But there still technology in the dual core chip that he has yet to be seen. I think verizon was very smart by doing the ltte service first. Along with the fact that cdma gets better coverage. There 4 g service is expected to cover justice much space is 3g service I think in 2 years. Then of course there's as other generations of l p e that are about to come out also. Anyways I'm talking through the speak now thing on my android phone so sorry about maya well story. The just wait to those new chips come out next year from snapdragon ill see a difference. The next thing gotta make a big difference is battery technology
36. Glorfindale posted on 13 Oct 2011, 00:10 2 0
It is trully a sad state of affairs when AT&T's argument that one day their LTE phones are going to be thinner than what Verizon has right now. Have they nothing else to sell people on? First it was talk and browse at the same time, now it's a promise of a thinner phone one day.
They really need to hire a good PR or advertisement firm to teach them how not to make foolish boasts.