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no one cares about t mobile even if they do get better phones than VZW No Service=No Need for a phone ...unless this is hot spot compatible
5. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
I am with you, no UMA/Wifi, it is not worth getting. I'm shocked that T-Mobile is relasing with out UMA/Wifi the UMA service is the best signal booster ever because there is no extra charge unlike Sprints airwave. 3G is nice but cmon, it is not nationwide and broadband access pretty much is by some provider and you can get a wireless router for about 50 bucks or more so this needs UMA/Wifi or it won't sell
41. Gina (unregistered)
how do you know the phone is wifi less?
51. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
Until the specs say Wifi than it dosen't have Wifi
55. kev (unregistered)
it has wifi u freak'n noob.
i dont understand why everyone hates on tmobile. i never get droped calls in portland like verizon and at&t does. the only beef i have w/ them is the lack of 3g which they claim to be adding here. after 3g comes if the price doesent go up they would be the best carrier out there
6. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
I agree, I have no problem beef with the other providers except Sprint because of customer service and terriable upgrade policy. but lack of 3G is annoying but with a UMA/Wifi device you can greatly improve your signal and on some devices you can use data. and NO CONTRACT (even though you have to pay more for the device). Its cool that T-Mobile is finally releasing 3G, but I think they should focus on 4G way more so they won't be so far behind AT&T and Verizon with 4G
terrible upgrade policy? who has a better one? every customer gets a discount after one year, not just select ones, and like vzw high value ones get a full discount once a year. they dont give an additional $50 off the 2 year price like vzw, but their prices are also lower on the whole.
Yeah, I have to jump on this little "why hate on T-Mobile?" bandwagon. I've had them for several years now in Los Angeles, and I have absolutely no issues with their service. My only gripes, like many here, are the lack of 3G (which is coming), and good phones (which I hope is coming). I've had Sprint here, as well as Cingular, and all were fine. No service is perfect. The only one where I saw concrete evidence of a better signal was Verizon. My friends and I were in the middle of the desert. All carriers were represented. The only one with service was Verizon. That being said, Verizon's plans are much more expensive than T-mobile's, and I don't really find myself in the middle of nowhere too often.
21. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
150 off of the phone after completing 22 months of your contract is BS, Verizon gives you 50 or 100 bucks off of your new device with a new 2 yr (depending on rate plan for the amount) and being able to upgrade at the 2 yr price after completing 12 months of the contract (depending on the rate plan), T- Mobile and AT&T will allow for you to upgrade at the 2 year price after completing 22 months of the contract and sprint will give you 150 off of full retail in most cases that is not cheaper or equat to what they will offer customer to come to Sprint so everybody has a better upgrade policy that Sprint
know your facts. at the 22 month mark existing customers get the exact same pricing as new customers. its at least $150 off, not just $150 off. they qualify for any additional instant and mail in rebates, just like a new customer. just like vzw, for high value customers they can upgrade after 12 months at that price. vzw does give an additional $50-$100 off for single or primary lines, but vzws phone prices are significantly higher so thats usually a ways, especially if youre dealing with multi-line upgrades. for example, the muziq and chocolate 3 are similar phones, with the muziq being $50 less. the touch is $99 on sprint and $249 on vzw
24. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
okay im with you on the touch (which is way over priced) i disagree with you on the muziq and the chocolate 3 because the chocolate is about a month old, ill stop hating all companies have a reasonable upgrade policy depending on what device you want, but there customer service is still the worst lol
sprint has the best upgrade policie cause u get the same off if not more than verizon, the only other company comparable, and if call cust care before u upgrade they give u an extra 450 to $70 credit tward the acct bal.
31. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
70 bucks to stick with there sorry ass, my sister has sprint and I know about that but no thanks thats not even a free month of service, look if you call Verizons care they can give 2 free months of monthly access charges not 70 bucks
3. m.i.k.e. (unregistered)
"Specs are reported to be a 5"x3" touchscreen with slide out QWERTY, 3G data and a 3.0 megapixel camera" ain't that as ENORMOUS as a fridge?! damn, no one's gonna want to carry that thing in their pants, not even in their hands, that's just way too big for a phone
Please for the love of god, come for Verizon
7. RyanKing (unregistered)
I think that T-Mobile good service or not is doing well in announcing new exclusive and general devices on their network. Its a nice surprise to think that T-Mobile may not be bought out by the big three. If your near the city you wont have a problem with their service.
If youre hoping for a good 3g coverage from Tmo you can hold your breath on that one. By the time it 3g is up to par with Big Red current 3g. All carriers will have upgraded to 4g, while Tmo just starts to get decet.
10. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
I agree but I can't hate on T-Mobile because of 2 things, No Contract and UMA. the lack of 3G sucks but the UMA is a good 2nd option they just need to not release a phone without the UMA option. I do agree quit this, stop hyping up 3G and catch up to 4g Little Pink. and the only company worth sucking balls is Sprint. Sprint means run so everybody should run away before there phones become bricks lol
4g is still a rumor w/ no relaes date
33. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
no date yes, after the auction that just happened this spring att and verizon perdicted 4g around 2010 which isnt that far away so please spare us the rumor thing its reality,
evan so 2 years in the tech world is a logng ass time, plus ill have another upgrade by then. if its more than 3 months out it dont mean a thing. cause in 6 months will be talkin about 5g! LOL
38. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
good one lol but I will take 2.5G EDGE&Wifi until they launch nation wide and be very happy
Just an fyi I have verizon and have no problems in Portland
Ha ha, vzw is a joke! I tested the vzw network coverage and T-Mo's for a year while I was considering switching to T-Mo just to see if everyone that says there coverage sucks really does suck. Needless to say they're WRONG! My vzw phone was an LG pos, only had 2 bars where I live and I live a a big city where vzw is dominant. I then bought an unlocked phone and to use with T-mo. Man I had reception everywhere. Took them on vacation to Florida both had same reception. Most of these vzw fan boys have no idea what there talking about. If you want to find out how reception will be with a certain carrier, take it for a test drive! Another thing to consider is the phone you choose, make sure it gets good reception! All phones are different! Maybe if I didn't have the pos LG phone I would have had better reception. Who knows and who cares! VZW is a rip off, go T-mo, more bang for your buck! T-mo also has excellent customer service, would not even think of going back to over priced, commi, bott phones of vzw! Would rather go ATT then go back price gouging vzw!
22. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
Dude you had an LG (a cheap POS phone unless you had a Voyager or a Dare), Pick a good phone like a pearl at the least and you would be way more happier. My personal advice never get a regular phone because you just get regular service, if you get a more advanced phone you usally get more advanced service because of the money that is put into the phone.
i dont understand how diff phones get diff reception. dont they all have the same transmitters?
39. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
no the quailty of the transmitters are different because the new phones have the more up to date transmitters, the free phones are usally phones over stock that are 6 to 9 months old that no one wants to buy or they are trying to flush out the old phones to sell the new model of phones
^^It's probably the cheap POS phone you had, but remember that signal bar isn't always correct or even that accurate. As long as many of the phones have 1 bar it will just as good as it does with 4 or 5. Still the bar meter is very inaccurate and a estimation at best. Verizon dominates everyone in coverage these days, thats why they get rated the highest in all markets for everything including coverage.
Dream is not lalaalallala
I have an unlocked Nokia N95 8GB on T-Mobile and couldn't be happier with the service. Unless you need to tether to a laptop, who needs 3G speeds on just a phone screen, even with full HTML browser or Opera Mini EDGE data is acceptable. I have always had great call quality. My friend has the Instinct on Sprint, but his phone sounds like it's always choppy when he calls. What a waste. Your phone's signal strength is not always important, it's really how your phone can maintain its connection through other wireless traffic that's important.
17. ralph559 (unregistered)
I have worked for VZW. Yes it is great cuse they spend the money where it counts in their network and their phones are very strong. But at the end of the day vzw is not for everyone, all of their phone come with training wheels. they hold down the potential of the phones with their horrible UI. Service is great customer care is o.k but who wants phones that come with limits. i.e. bluetruth transfer, mobile web restrictments that is why they dont have the i phone in the first place they will not sell a phone they cannot put their stupid v-cast store. I was a data specialist for them so I know the low down.
20. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
I agree and I also used to work for Verizon Customer Care, look phones with disabilites don't work for the people that understand the inter workings of a phone, I have never owned a regular phone thru Verizon it was always PDA/Blackberry or bust and then they locked down the GPS to VZ Navigator so they can make money (which was smart). Verizon Dumb phones are for people who only want a phone as a phone and maybe a little bit more (which is most of the nation not me). but to us phone geeks we need phones with no limits. No Verizon PDA/Smartphone/Blackberry is locked down except the GPS on the BB's so anybony saying Verizon Sucks because they lock down there phones has and LG 8300 (or worse) and they are on the wrong site to hate on what a company has. and if you are hating on any device and you dont own a PDA, Smartphone, BlackBerry, Palm, N-95 and up, and E series Nokia, should be banned from the site because there phone knowledge is limited to my Grandmothers ( and she is 80)
UI sucks, but it's practically almost the same for all their regular phones. simple. Verizon is still better than TMO. OTA music, video, TV. TMO don't have that, at least for now.
47. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
I agree but I cant throw T-Mobile under the bus because they are GSM so you can have any unlocked phone and it will work and also No Contract makes a hell of a lot of difference
18. Mjgio10494 (unregistered)
I personally like AT&T. I get amazing coverage everywhere wehre I live (about a half hour from Detroit) I have nothing against T mobile. They seem to be a good carrier, and are even propsing to put up a cell tower in my city to expand their coverage area. At least they are trying to improve what is already good.
I have had t-mobile for about 4 years, am currently using a Nokia E71 and used to have reception problems in certain areas, however those problems have disappeared in the last couple years. I get good signal everywhere and T-mobiles prices are the best in the industry. I get 1,000 anytime minutes, unlimited nights and weekends, unlimited messaging, and unlimited internet for about $75 a month. I can't wait for the dream to come out. T-mobile is moving in the right direction.
Is it me or dose the HTC Dream look like a sidekick
there is no pics of the dream. theres not even specs. if any one has either of these please post. ps im in cubical world and this is the only site i can access so copy and paste would be gretly apriciated! thanx
26. tgijosh (unregistered)
I am on the phone constantly for my job. I'm in New York City and everytime I get a caller with crappy signal and a staticy line I ask them which service they have out of curiosity. The answer is always T-Mobile. I've had Verizon and AT&T and over the last 5 years i've never lost a call. T-Mobile has by far the worst signal.
I love how "fanboys" never actually do thinking before they post. You can't tell anyone what service is better for you. Depending on the area that you live in, one service will have better coverage than another. It also depends on where you travel and hang out. I've had every service out there and they all dropped calls. It's about what's good for you. Telling someone what service they should get is like telling someone what type of medication they should be taking without a medical degree. Everyone is different and so is every carrier. Stop claiming that 1 has the "best" service because it's not the best for everyone.
34. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
yes thank you, the people who complain about service in major markets ane annoying, they probally got the free phone which equals terriable service. you get what you dont pay for lol
49. PHug (unregistered)
I agree with anon. I started with Cinguilar and left them because they tried to cheat me on a bill. Went to T-Mobile and left T-mobile because my phone died and i had no insurance so it was cheaper to switch to Verizon. Ended up leaving Verizon because i wanted to get the PPC 6700 from Sprint. All the services were basically the same.. good in some spots, bad in others. I live and work in the D.C. metro area and in my profession travel D.C., MD. & VA.
35. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
I heard a rumor that Little Pink (T-Mobile) might be the ones that put up the bid to take Sprint out when the time is right because they want a peice of what Vodafone is getting with Verizon in the US market has anybody else heard of that or will that make any sence cause i think it would. the only problem is what network would they use unless from the merger date on out all of there devices will do CDMA and GSM
tmobile tking over sprint would be the worst bussiness dicision ever. look what happend to sprint after taking over nextel its been 2 years and there just starting to turn things around.
40. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
it might be or here is what I think they should do 1. sell Iden to the Gov't ASAP 2. take the money from the IDEN deal and send all of the IDEN customers Qchat devices and make them comperable to there current devices 3. Make all new devices dual mode from (GSM and CDMA) so they can have 3G and catch up to everyone else and see how WiMax works, shoot even pull out all stops and do LTE at the same time so they can see which is faster and roll with it. would it be costly yes but Im sure T-Mobile home base in Europe has the money to do it and they don't want Vodafone to take all of the money and think about it Verizon is CDMA and they are going LTE so either they will switch to GSM or go Dual Mode, with a T-mobile/Sprint Merger they will be already ahead of Verizons curve
that sounds good but they would have to merg before they spent the $$ on 3g because sprints rev. A is faster and i dont see nextel cust (which i deal with 10 hrs a day) being happy about being forced into another phone evan if free, thats how crazy these people are. plus is the benifit that large to take that kinda risk. i just dont see it happening.
48. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
yeah I know a couple of die hard nextel people that still have the i1000 lol, risky yes but for T-Mobile to be relevant nation wide it might be worth the risk and so what if the nextel people leave cause they dont a new phone that is equivlent to there current model. that small fraction of people wouldnt hurt anybody. the biggest question is what about all of the boost people out there, if T-Mobile was bold enough to do this would they offer all of there services without contract like they currently do and if they do that would they get a QChat phone IDK
so its going to be a android sidekick?
no the pic of the phone is a sidekick becase there is no pic of the dream. at least i hope!!!
46. jude (unregistered)
i miss t-mobile. i switched to verizon and have had 3 phones cause of all the problems they gave me... i'v only been with verizon for 5 months! the reception is about the same... probably a little worse i've noticed. can't text in class anymore! haha
This goes for comment 15 way up there. Verizon was awarded the JD Power and Associates Award for best costumer service and your precious T-Mobile got 3rd. It was beaten by the little regional company Attel, which will become part of the Big Red family.
52. JoeyStyles (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 May 2008)
yeah but you might as well say 2nd because we all know Alltel is Verizon
Wow! what a bunch of whiners regarding phone service
I doubt that tmo would pass up adding wifi to such an awesome phone. I just switched to tmo about 3 wks ago, and i am def happy about it. I will be kinda upset havin to pay full price if the dream is a gotta have phone. Tmo is my the best service ive had yet, and ive had sprint, vzw(bastards), and att(then cingular) with 3g rolling out all over its worth the wait.