Huawei's P40 inside joke trolls America

Huawei's P40 inside joke trolls America
Is Huawei trying to send a message to the country whose supply chain it is banned from? After all, what can be more American than referencing a Disney movie? According to a tweet from tipster Evan Blass, Huawei has given its upcoming P40 and P40 Pro codenames of Anna and Elsa respectively. If you're not a Disney fan or don't have any kids under 12, these are the sisters who star in Frozen and Frozen 2. Anna is a princess and Elsa is a Queen with the ability to create ice and snow from her fingertips and control it.

The Huawei P40 phones will be the latest "P-Series" handsets created by the world's second-largest smartphone manufacturer. This series focuses on photography and the P40 should have three cameras on the back (primary, ultra-wide and a telephoto with 3x optical zoom). The module on the P40 Pro might carry four cameras (primary, ultra-wide, telephoto with 5x optical zoom, and a Time of Flight sensor). A ceramic-cased premium version of the latter model is expected to feature the aforementioned four cameras and add a Macro camera for extreme closeups.

Commerce Department rule change could hurt Huawei even more

Huawei remains shutout from its U.S. supply chain and things could get worse if the Commerce Department revises the de minimis rule. Under this rule, the U.S. can still impose export controls on a foreign-made product if it contains more than 25% controlled U.S.-origin content by value. But the Trump administration is weighing a change that would lower the threshold from 25% to 10%. At that point, almost any product made overseas with any bit of American content would be under U.S. export control.

Last year's P30 series was the last of Huawei's flagship phones to be equipped with Google Mobile Services and Google Play Service. Since it cannot license the Google version of Android for its new phones, Huawei has been using an open-source version with its own AppGallery storefront. In other words, these devices cannot use Google apps like Search, the PlayStore, Gmail, Maps and more. In China, this doesn't really matter since most Google apps are banned inside the country anyway. Where this does impact the manufacturer is with its international sales outside of China.

The P40 series will be the first to launch with Huawei Mobile Services. CEO Charles Peng says, "We have our own HMS and are trying to build a mobile ecosystem. Most of the key apps such as navigation, payments, gaming and messaging will be ready soon." Huawei is reportedly paying developers as much as $17,000 each to have their apps support HMS. The P40 will launch with an open-source version of Android 10 using Huawei's EMUI interface.

Even though the U.S. and China have signed Phase 1 of a trade deal between the two countries, there hasn't been any talk about removing Huawei from the Commerce Department's entity list. The manufacturer was placed on this list in the middle of May blocking access to the U.S. supply chain it spent $11 billion on in 2018. The U.S. considers Huawei to be a national security threat as American lawmakers fear that its devices contain backdoors that can send intelligence to Beijing. Huawei has denied this allegation repeatedly. It isn't clear whether the U.S. will use the company as a bargaining chip to obtain more favorable terms from China if the trade talks continue. President Donald Trump hinted that this could be the case less than a week after the ban started.

The head of Huawei's consumer unit, Richard Yu, said last month that the P40 and P40 Pro would be unveiled at the end of March. Tipster Blass says that the date will be March 26th.

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P40 Pro
  • Display 6.5 inches
    2560 x 1440 pixels
  • Camera (Quad camera)
  • Hardware HiSilicon Kirin 990, 8GB RAM
  • Storage 128GB,
  • Battery 5500 mAh
  • OS Android 10



17. 44alexsmith

Posts: 24; Member since: Oct 06, 2016

The U.S. is wise to ban Huawei products. Everyone knows Huawei is backed by the Chinese government. I personally like Huawei products, however, China needs to learn to be a better world team player when it comes to trade, quality and integrity. I can't just be about China only.

20. Venom

Posts: 4137; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Dude I agree. This is what I have been trying to say but the usual Huawei apologists want to say otherwise.

23. meanestgenius

Posts: 23174; Member since: May 28, 2014

So where is this proof that Huawei is backed by the Chinese government? Why hasn’t China, if Huawei is in bed with them, included them in any trade deals? Why has no country, especially the U.S., been able to provide any proof that Huawei is spying? Post links to solid evidence of they are doing any of this, or you’re just as full of smoke as the usual Xenophobic Huawei Hate Brigade

26. cheetah2k

Posts: 2357; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

Seems you know little about China and large corporate companies operating in China. The real question isn’t so much whether Huawei is a covert espionage operation but whether it could be coerced into becoming one. For a start, Chinese companies – and Huawei is no exception – typically have a Communist party committee within their corporate architecture. What these committees do, or how much influence they wield, is hard to gauge. In a time of war, this is the real concern - and no doubts that China is preparing itself for conflict with their aggressive behaviour in the South China Sea, as well as their cyber warfare establishment.. If I was a government looking to the future, it would certainly be a case of looking to my allies, and using their tech before those of a potential country of conflict..

16. MFJ

Posts: 23; Member since: Apr 15, 2009

Most of the phones they sold last year were in China where they don't need Google services of course. They will be in a world of hurt this year....but me and my Mate 20x will be just fine :D

12. MsPooks

Posts: 384; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

Is it trolling if it goes right over your head? I don't get the point of this article.

4. Blazers

Posts: 796; Member since: Dec 05, 2011

Lol that's not trolling. If they code named them Donald and Mike, then that would be trolling.

3. Alan01

Posts: 672; Member since: Mar 21, 2012

Wait 3 to 5 business days. Regards, Alan

2. maherk

Posts: 7114; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

I don't care what anyone says, but Huawei needs this political ban to be lifted for them to maintain the success they have had for years now. The reason why they were able to sell so much smartphones last year, was because the majority of their lineup did have Google Play Services. With their entire lineup not having this license, and now these new restrictions, I don't see them maintaining a top 3 spot for this year. Hopefully the ban will be lifted with the new tariffs deal, because whether you like Huawei or not, we need someone like them in this market. Competition is the best thing that could happen for any industry.

5. Venom

Posts: 4137; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

You see I can agree with that. That's a fair point to make. Competition is healthy but you have to take into consideration that Huawei is a Chinese company. Obviously they are going to have the backing of China. That's just the way it is. Huawei has done some shady things in the past, so it's perfectly reasonable for the US to ban them much like China has done to other companies.

6. meanestgenius

Posts: 23174; Member since: May 28, 2014

The fact that they are a “Chinese” company should have no relevance, especially there has been no proof that they are backed by the Chinese government. If they were backed by the Chinese government, then why hasn’t China said for them to be included in the new deals they just signed with the U.S. government? Why haven’t they made it a point to say “we will agree to this, but Huawei has to be removed from the entities list.” The fact that the Chinese government hasn’t tried to include Huawei in this new deal is more proof that Huawei isn’t backed by the U.S. government. What you’re doing is called profiling, plain and simple. You’re assuming things about Huawei based on its country of origin. But honestly, I expected no less from you.

8. meanestgenius

Posts: 23174; Member since: May 28, 2014

*....more proof that Huawei isn’t backed by the Chinese government.

25. cheetah2k

Posts: 2357; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

Maybe Huawei should come out clean with evidence they're not backed by the PLA...

10. ScottsoNJ56

Posts: 176; Member since: Oct 01, 2017

But you could also say since they have signed these new trade deals why hasn't Huawei been removed since a lot of people think that's why the US banned Huawei. I honestly think it's a little of both. Maybe the US can't divulge how they know certain things??? Plus since Google and Facebook are both banned in China why can't the US ban certain things. What's fair is fair.

13. meanestgenius

Posts: 23174; Member since: May 28, 2014

Huawei hasn't been removed because of speculation. There is no actual proof of Huawei spying. There is only "but what if.…?" Huawei not being removed from the entities list when these deals were made is proof positive that they aren't cohorts with the Chinese government. You and I have been down this road before. You literally were telling me to leave the country because I am the atrocities that the U.S. government has committed around the world, and to its own citizens, especially those of a darker hue. Fair would be judging a company on its actions, not on speculation. China is no better in that regard. But let's not act like the U.S. is any better than China, because it's not. Both government's have committed numerous atrocities, and still do.

18. Venom

Posts: 4137; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

"Plus since Google and Facebook are both banned in China why can't the US ban certain things. What's fair is fair." I agree Scott. I love how a perfectly legitimate question in regards to China gets overlooked with backtracking and more deflecting about the US not being innocent. China bans stuff all the time yet no one bat's an eye but the US bans a national security threat and it's considered propaganda and heresy. The Huawei apologists isn't going to acknowledge the statement I pointed out because they know that it invalidates their argument.

21. meanestgenius

Posts: 23174; Member since: May 28, 2014

Like Scott, you continue to equate the Huawei to China as if they are the same entity, and they are not. It’s not deflecting when the U.S. not being innocent is brought up, it’s pointing out the hypocrisy of people like you overlooking the ills that the U.S. government has committed. China banning stuff isn’t Huawei banning stuff. I know that’s some hard facts for you to swallow, but I’m sure you can handle it swallowing it. Your argument is invalidated by what I just said, but I’m sure a Xenophobic Huawei Hater like you won’t acknowledge it, or the fact that you are backing up what someone who I proved is bigot has just said. But birds of a feather do flock together.

19. Venom

Posts: 4137; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

"deal is more proof that Huawei isn’t backed by the U.S. government. " Lol, do you have computer tourette syndrome or something? I never said anything about Huawei being backed by the U.S government. I'm not profiling or assuming. That's what you are doing but of course you just try to move the goalpost whenever you get put on the spot.

22. meanestgenius

Posts: 23174; Member since: May 28, 2014

Lmao too bad I beat you to correcting myself. But leave it you and your lack of reading comprehension to even notice it. You are absolutely profiling and assuming. You believe that since Huawei is Chinese that they are backed by the U.S. government. That’s proof right there that you are profiling. Now, post where I’m profiling since you said that’s what I’m doing. I know you won’t, and you’ll just deflect from this. You are also assuming because you have yet to provide any evidence that Huawei is a shady company that’s been spying. No country, the U.S. included, has been able to provide it. It’s all speculation. You’ll run from this as well and try to change the goalpost and the facts to suit your false narrative, as usual.

24. hamaidx

Posts: 100; Member since: Apr 28, 2015

Shady things in the past - Like what -- Oh wait... are you talking about Over Taking Apple .... c'mon mann.. cut the utter BS ... Huawei is so damn advanced am sure they're working on 6G s**t already where-in rest of the world tech is in ruins... we as consumers, need to get the best worth of our Taxes... its a shame that you can stoop so much .. and you call yourself a Super Power ... Super Power my Ass!!

7. meanestgenius

Posts: 23174; Member since: May 28, 2014

Maherk, Huawei not having access to Googles services is a rough blow for them, and the new restrictions will make things tougher, but I just don’t see them dropping out of the top 3 just yet. I could wrong, but that’s how I see if for now. Huawei is in a tight spot, no question. This BS political propaganda is going to hurt them, but I don’t think it’s going to hurt them as much as people think it is. Their sales in China will continue to be robust. They have also been strategically releasing their latest smartphones like the Mate 30 series and the Honor v30 series in countries and reasons where it will sell, like the UAE, Spain, and Switzerland, for example. And I’ve been saying exactly what you just said, that competition and choice are a good thing for consumers and the industry. But some people here have disagreed with me when I made that statement, but it’s clear now that they just disagreed with it because it was me saying it.

9. raky_b

Posts: 471; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

I am 100% on Huawei's side on this topic, but I can't see them selling as much as they did in 2019. You see...first half of last year was great for them in whole world, and after US ban, people in China have bought Huawei phones just to prove their patriotism... I don't see it holding more than few months when ban is new and much mentioned around in media. Once that becomes "old news " in China, many of them will turn to OPPO, Vivo, Meizu,Xiaomi...and people in western countries has already forgotten about how great Huawei is. It is just us, on sites like this....that really knows to compare device vs device, and still talks about Huawei

14. meanestgenius

Posts: 23174; Member since: May 28, 2014

Oh, for sure they won’t sell as much as they did in 2019. Even Huawei themselves has said that they will have a decline in smartphone shipments, around 30 million handsets. For all of 2019 they sold over 240 million smartphones. That means that are projecting themselves to sell about 210 million smartphones in 2020. What other smartphone OEM do you see selling that many smartphones in a year that’s not named Samsung? Apple, maybe? So that would put them at #3. Huawei has also started selling “refreshes” of certain smartphones, like the popular P30 lite. Refreshes still come with GMS, as they are essentially the same smartphone with one to three changes in them from what I’ve seen. In the U.S. people are unaware of Huawei. In many other parts of the world Huawei is a big brand name, and it’s unlikely to be forgotten.

11. ScottsoNJ56

Posts: 176; Member since: Oct 01, 2017

I doubt very much if Huawei is going anywhere. They are too big to fail. Plus they make top of the line products.I've already bought and used a Mate 10 Pro ( beautiful phone) and a Huawei Mate 20X ( awesome phone but a tad too big). Sooner or later I think all these disagreements,problems will work themselves out and Huawei will be able to start selling everything to everybody again.

1. Metropolis75

Posts: 200; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

I don't feel trolled.

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