The Galaxy S8 might run on a 10nm Exynos 8895 chip with ARM's latest Mali-G71 GPU

The Galaxy S8 might run on a 10nm Exynos 8895 chip with ARM's latest Mali-G71 GPU
Over in South Korea, a Samsung LSI official tried to sell confidential information regarding the company's 14nm and 10nm chip fabrication process to competitors from China, and got promptly arrested by local police. While the exec is now being sued by Samsung, information from the papers leaked, stating that Samsung's next year Galaxy S8 flagship smartphone is going to use a 10nm SoC. SamMobile has received additional information on the matter, which may or may not have been sourced from the confidential documents.

Reportedly, the Samsung Galaxy S8 could use a 10nm Exynos 8895 processor, paired with ARM's latest Mali-G71 graphics unit. It is said that the new GPU is nearly twice as powerful as the Mali-T880 unit used in the Galaxy S7. It is also alleged to be faster than the GPU in Qualcomm's competing 10nm chipset, the Snapdragon 830, which will be delivered sometime next year. However, we have no credible information on the next Adreno GPU to properly scrutinize this statement.

The Mali-G71 uses a new architecture called Bifrost and is designed as an end-to-end solution for 4K content and VR experiences. It also supports technologies such as Vulkan, OpenGL ES 3.2, GPU Computer, and Android RenderScript. The unit is principally clocked to 850MHz and provides double the throughput of the Mali-T880 GPU.

With a powerful graphics core like that, Samsung might be looking into equipping the Galaxy S8 with a 4K-resolution screen, improving the experience of VR content and high-resolution videos. The company is yet to formally announce 4K-resolution mobile OLED screens, though. We are pretty sure that we'll learn more about where Samsung is headed with the Galaxy S8 in the months ahead.

The ARM Mali-G71 seems like a considerable improvement over the Galaxy S7's GPU

The ARM Mali-G71 seems like a considerable improvement over the Galaxy S7's GPU


source: SamMobile

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75 Comments

1. Rocket

Posts: 613; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

bring the future king!

12. NonFanBoy

Posts: 180; Member since: May 28, 2015

Still won't be able to match A10 fusion.

17. Ordinary

Posts: 2454; Member since: Apr 23, 2015

It will exceed it by a mile

31. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Yes! E8895 will do the same thing which the A10 did to the E8890: launch 6 months later and outplay the rival.

18. Landon

Posts: 1227; Member since: May 07, 2015

How do you know? Can you predict the future? Honestly, though...the A10 fusion is the chip to beat. Period.

24. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

The A10 definitely will have the better CPU unless Samsung does some kind of magic and doubles their IPC in under a year, which is not going to happen. But regarding the GPU, if it's said to be twice as fast as the T880, the GPU in the A10 stands no chance.

37. ebilcake

Posts: 1193; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

In terms of single core performance you're right, but you're wrong. Samsung don't need to match the single performance to have a better CPU.

38. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

What's the IPC?

43. ebilcake

Posts: 1193; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

Instructions per cycle, better IPC means more work per clock cycle in relation to clockspeed.

40. zunaidahmed

Posts: 1182; Member since: Dec 24, 2011

I doubt they can make it twice as powerful without increasing the power draw. 1.5 times would be more do-able. As for the GPU, Samsung newer chips always are a tad bit slower than the Ax series while the A series chip after that beats it again. Apple designs 2 SoC every year while Samsung only focuses on S series flagship.

48. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

Exynos GPU has never been slower than the Ax proceeding it. The GPU on S6 was a lot faster than the one on the A8(30-50%) and the GPU on S7 was slightly faster than the one on the A9(10-30% depending on the benchmark). The fact of the matter is that newer GPU will always be better, and 6 months is a lot of time to improve GPU performance. Comparing tablet processors to phone ones make no sense. If I can compare across architectures, then I would laugh at Apple Ax series GPUs saying they suck even compared to intel HD graphics.

64. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

" If I can compare across architectures, then I would laugh at Apple Ax series GPUs saying they suck even compared to intel HD graphics." Yup, and that's well demonstrated by the iPad XL in this on-screen benchmark ( http://sck.pm/xwl ), showing it still lags behind the i3 Surface Pro 3, not to talk of the i5/i7 variants or even the Surface Pro 4.

75. HomerS

Posts: 419; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

The A10 will have the better single core performance but the Exynos 8895 will have the better multicore performance, as the A10 beats even the older 8890 only by a little in the multicore score.

34. currator

Posts: 11; Member since: Sep 23, 2016

I have a question maybe someone can answer. Is Apple cheating when it comes to benchmark test? They are using completely outdated screen tech which should be less demand on the hardware as well as an OS that has changed very little over how many years. Someone should slap an Samsung 2k screen with android loaded on an iPhone then run those benchmark test. At least we would know the truth.

35. ebilcake

Posts: 1193; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

No, the screen resolution does not effect CPU performance or loading times. It only effects performance in graphics benchmarks and games.

39. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

No! Screen resolution definitely affects CPU performance. More pixels is more pixels, they're all rendered throughout the UI. Loading times is mostly affected by storage speed.

41. zunaidahmed

Posts: 1182; Member since: Dec 24, 2011

Nope, there are videos on YouTube proving not true. UI nowadays have close to no stress on the CPU, if not none at all.

44. ebilcake

Posts: 1193; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

No, It doesn't, higher resolution will require more memory for increased assets and that's about it outside of games. Minimal affect on CPU, not even worth mentioning.

49. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

CPU can't rasterize pixels and doesn't interact with display. If your phone or PC doesn't have a GPU, the screen won't even get powered on.

65. tedkord

Posts: 17047; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

That's just not true. If it were, there would be no reason for Android to include an option to force the GPU to render all 2D.

74. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

There is a difference between rendering and rasterizing.

46. iDing-Dong unregistered

NonFanBoy, it's hard to say which chip is actually faster since they both are running different types of OS. I really like to see the A10 run Androids OS to be fair and see if it really that good. As of right now it's a NO for me according to spec sheets. But however it's running on IOS I have to give Apple a thumbs up.

50. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

That's not how it works. Cross-platform benchmarks like geekbench don't depend on the OS. 2+2 instruction will be the same on android and iOS. The A9 will be faster even if it was running on android.

54. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Everything depend on the OS. OS dont access hardware directly and each have different structure. ios as a more direct access to hardware but still have to work with drivers and firmware. android add a virtual machine on top. Make a geekbench test of a MacBook pro running mac os then run a virtual machine on top and run geekbench in it under a virtual windows. You will see a sharp drop in performance all around because of the added layer to work with. This is main reason for specific graphic API to give more direct access to hardware. So yes any Apple soc running android would have lower benchmark scoore. But A10 fusion would still be near the top if not the top and you would not feel the performance lost in real life usage. Apple do make very good soc. Its also possible in theory to run android on an iPhone at native level because iPhone and android all use Arm architecture based as soc.

62. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

That will barely make a 10% drop in performance since modern VMs are that good. And there are VMs that allow passthrough and direct hardware access. If android isn't using that, then the devs at Google are just sitting on their asses the whole time.

2. Ninetysix

Posts: 2931; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

That's hot! This will blow away the competition. Going to be a killer for sure.

10. spin9

Posts: 310; Member since: May 31, 2014

Too early to say. In the meantime N7 does that job

14. truthwins unregistered

Hopefully it would outshine the beast A9

15. Kumar123 unregistered

Yeah, N7 did excellent job of killing samsung mobile reputation. I applaud samsung exces especially those who are responsible for rushing to release n7 without proper testing. They have done a great job.

30. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Kumar123, the notorious Samsung hater has just been released from his one-week sentence! Accidents happen, alright? It's not like Samsung intented to launch the Note7 with faulty batteries. You should rather applaud Samsung execs for owning up to the issue and offering various alternate solutions to consumers. Samsung has done a great job by offering the best and most advanced phablet. Deal with it.

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