Samsung ramps up Galaxy S8's 10nm chipset production, 8nm and 6nm to follow

Samsung ramps up Galaxy S8's 10nm chipset production, 8nm and 6nm to follow
Samsung took to its newsroom today to announce that it is ramping up production of chipsets with the fresh new 10nm production node. As so far these are only the Snapdragon 835 and Exynos 8895, we can safely assume that Samsung means mass production is on track. So far, more than 70,000 silicon wafers of the first generation, or the so-called LPE (Low Power Early) architecture have been shipped to clients.

The enhanced 10nm LPP and LPU models "will enter mass production by the end of the year and next year, respectively," according to Jongshik Yoon, Executive Vice President and Head of Foundry Business at Samsung Electronics. Those are the next stage in the production process that exist at each node - just remember how hot and bothered the first LPE Snapdragon 810/820 chipset were, and compare to the 821 that is done with the later iterations, polishing out the kinks.

Samsung also took the opportunity to announce 8nm and 6nm process technologies that have entered its foundry roadmap. Needless to say, they will "provide greater scalability, performance and power advantages when compared to existing process nodes," but will use the production technology developed for the 10nm and 7nm processors. All specs and technical details for the latest 8nm and the 6nm nodes will be showcased to customers at a dedicated U.S Samsung Foundry Forum that is starting on May 24th. This likely means that next year we will be witnessing even faster and more frugal chipsets going into our phones, something we can totally get behind with.

source: Samsung

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28 Comments

1. Mreveryphone

Posts: 1821; Member since: Apr 22, 2014

We should see big gains of the power to battery consumption ratio at the 6nm to 7nm node process... This is some exciting stuff...

2. joeytaylor

Posts: 957; Member since: Feb 28, 2015

So is that the S10

23. cheetah2k

Posts: 2256; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

No such news from TSMC... Waits for TSMC to catch up :D

3. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

We need similar innovation in the android SoC architecture. We are seeing very small gains while Apple is just racing away at it, and consistently at that.

18. vuyonc

Posts: 1090; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

Multimedia features are the future unfortunately and fortunately. Qualcomm would rather have software developers learn VR, HDR content, Vulkan and other optimisations (good) and rest on their butts as Mediatek, Spreadtrum etc. can't catch up in Android market share (really bad). In fact, Qualcomm would rather pick up other revenue streams like low cost Windows laptops and self driving cars.

21. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

If Qualcomm doesn't get their s**t together, Samsung will stop using snapdragon in even US like the S6. That's like half their revenue.

24. AmashAziz

Posts: 2923; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

Keep in mind that Apple increased the clock speed of the A10 CPU by 0.6 GHz over the A9, which is surely a major reason why it was 40% faster, generallly speaking. WHich shows there weren't many technical gains due to changes in SoC design itself. And this increase in clock speed could result in lesser sustained perfromance too. Which is not the way forward. It's still faster than Snapdragon 821, that's what matters though.

26. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

Increasing clock speed by that kind of doubt is not easy. I know they have had all the easy gains and now will struggle to get similar gains, but still they are way too ahead.

27. vincelongman

Posts: 5691; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

*android CPU architecture Android SoC architecture is still competive with Apple's Apple are leading in CPU Qualcomm are leading GPU (ARM may have closed the gap, remains to be seen) and DSP Samsung have taken the lead in ISP

4. kerginaldo17 unregistered

I think the S9 will already use 8nm chipsets. Who knows the note 9 will already use 6nm chipsets? Only time will tell.

25. AmashAziz

Posts: 2923; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

if the S9 uses an 8nm chipset, the note 9 will likely use the same chipset too.

5. ShadowSnypa786

Posts: 573; Member since: Jan 06, 2017

Well done Samsung and others pushing tech forward, as consumers the next few years will be amazing hopefully with newer powerful efficient cpus's. Now maybe in a few years we can have 4k screens and batterys will last longer than they do now on 1440p devices like the LG G3, G4, G5 and G6. Here's hoping.

6. mikehunta727 unregistered

Intel's 3rd gen 14nm process is still better then 10nm Samsung process but Intel no longer has that incredible semiconductor advantage they had for years now. The gaps a lot closer nowadays

7. ShadowSnypa786

Posts: 573; Member since: Jan 06, 2017

If its better why dont other use the tech. Maybe it help Intel get back to Number 1.

8. kiko007

Posts: 7493; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Intel IS number one. Everybody is chasing them.

11. mikehunta727 unregistered

They absolutely are not #1 in SoC's, not even like 5th, But yes, #1 semiconductor process out there still Intel is #1 in their heavy CPU market. AMD just now put themselves back on the map with Ryzen after years of being in the dumps

13. Macready

Posts: 1821; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

Not for long, because they lack the larger economies of scale (in sheer numbers sold, not to be confused with revenues) and competition (altough AMD is finally giving them some heat) that you see in the the mobile SoC world.

10. mikehunta727 unregistered

Because it costs considerably more to do so for OEM' s.... And Samsung and TSMC are definitely not gonna go to Intel for this when they have their own massive semiconductor business already Plus it would cost more research and development to optimize their SoCs on different but better Intel process

15. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Because intel soc cost much more. Its all a question of profit margin.

14. Macready

Posts: 1821; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

No it's not. On a normalized scale, the current 14nm Intel is the equivalent of 13nm vs 12nm for the Exynos 8895/SD 835 (which they call 10nm). It won't be until Intel actually releases its 10nm (9.5nm on the same normalized scale) SoC when Intel pulls ahead again, later this year (after release of the S8). After which Globalfoundries, Samsung and TSMC will jump to 8nm (9.2nm on the same scale) and 6nm (7.1nm) and be ahead again, until Intel makes the next move in 2021.https://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/2001439371.png

16. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Macready you talking about nm comparison. they talking about IPC per clock speed ( architecture ) wich intel still way way better.

20. Macready

Posts: 1821; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

That would a completely nonsensical comparison to begin with, since mobile (smartphone/tablet) processors are designed around fully different constraints than your typical Intel processor. It's like saying a MAN is a better manufacturer than Porsche, because the former builds cars that can carry/pull a lot more load. The only time that comparison made sense, was when Intel tried to enter the smartphone arena with its own processor. We all know how that went.

9. ShadowSnypa786

Posts: 573; Member since: Jan 06, 2017

Which phones is the intel chip in?? Flagship devices are delaying their releases for what chip?? An intel one?? Last I heard it was for the Snapdragon 835. Till Apple, Samsung, LG, Google use Intel they aren't number 1 in mobile CPU's. PC wise yes but not mobile.

17. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

They have a much better architecture but are also more pricy. Your beloved mobile OEM love milking the clients using lesser tech.

19. ShadowSnypa786

Posts: 573; Member since: Jan 06, 2017

Since im not running crysis 3 in 60fps and in 4k i dont need the best of the best. As long as it has a good display and a good camera coupled together with very good battery life im happy. I think you would prefer to have intel in phones and then they cost over 1000 dollars/pounds, powerful cpu's alone are like 200 quid. Good they dont use intel and they never will im not paying more than 600 dollars/pounds for a phone.

12. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

6nm! Wow this sounds crazy. 1nm is the goal.

22. Mixkhata1

Posts: 162; Member since: Feb 26, 2017

i wonder what would happen when we finally hit 1nm. Can we go any lower than that?

28. AmashAziz

Posts: 2923; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

The current goal is 7nm......1nm is the aim.

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