The HTC U12+ just leaked in official renders alongside a very detailed specs sheet

2. Boast_Rider (Posts: 475; Member since: 14 Sep 2017)

The S9 has issues with the exynos variant in pretty much all over the world. Also, even with the SD version, their update record seems really bad, especially this year. Mi mix 2s seems good from a hardware standpoint but MiUi is not to everyone's taste, and the update record seems pretty bad on their side as well. Oneplus 6 has missing features like wireless charging, G7 is overall pretty uninteresting and has a tiny battery capacity.

This phone looks the most balanced of all. Sense is 'close-enough' to stock to never post performance issues, battery size and other specs seem good enough, their update record is pretty decent, and their camera on the U11 was absolutely amazing. I don't see any reason to not get this phone if they price it right.

3. NateDiaz (Posts: 1055; Member since: 03 Mar 2018)

HTC 10 was the perfect device on paper, did not sell.

11. A_A_A (Posts: 186; Member since: 23 Jan 2017)

But it doesn't mean that if they start makig devices which are far from perfect (like the whole U series) it will help them with sales...

15. Boast_Rider (Posts: 475; Member since: 14 Sep 2017)

The 10 had to compete against the s7 edge and OnePlus 3 , both of which were better devices in different ways.

48. Doakie (Posts: 2427; Member since: 06 May 2009)

Yeah. I bought an Axon 7 instead of a HTC 10, had my Axon 7 for 13 months then bought a used HTC 10. I wish I bought the HTC 10 right off the bat, I love this phone. Problem is, I LOVED my Axon 7 too. So the grass is always greener!

25. maherk (Posts: 6337; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)

You could've simply said I'm an HTC fanboy rather than post that long ass comment bashing every phone it competes against.
And what issues does the Exynos version of the S9 face? I have had the phone since it was released, and apart from the 1st 2 weeks where it was stuttery at times and battery life was awful, it has been working like a champ since Samsung released 2 updates fixing bugs and improving the stability of the software.

30. Boast_Rider (Posts: 475; Member since: 14 Sep 2017)

Long-ass comment! Dude, that's not even 15 lines. And no, I own a OnePlus,.not HTC. It's just that I was impressed with U11.

The exynos has horrible scheduler issues. Sorry, I'm not taking your word for it that it's fixed since Samsung downright refused to acknowledge the issue. Your just defending your purchase.

33. maherk (Posts: 6337; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)

I was vocal about these issues when I received my phone, was even considering taking the loss and trading it for an S8, but I have none of the issues I faced when I 1st bought it. Performance is great, battery life is average, not better nor worse than my old S8.
I was more impressed by the U11+, 2nd best camera behind the Pixel amd definitely the most underrated phone of last year.

36. MINDoSOUL (Posts: 321; Member since: 28 Feb 2014)

But you don't own a U11+, if you did you would have been as frustrated as most of the 99+% owners of the device.

37. MINDoSOUL (Posts: 321; Member since: 28 Feb 2014)

something wrong with PA double comment, sorry i had to change this comment.

46. iushnt (Posts: 2982; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)

Neither does my colleague have any issue with exynos S9. We were not even aware of there was supposed to be any issue.

27. MINDoSOUL (Posts: 321; Member since: 28 Feb 2014)

Their update record is the worst of any phone i ever owned and i have owned a lot. I have currently the U11+ a lovely phone from the hardware side except for the screen light bleeding issue. I am never buying an HTC device again no matter how good it is except if it's a Pixel. My last update was last year December even though the U11+ is their latest offering. Visit the device XDA thread if you don't want to take my word for it.

40. BLUEBLASTER (Posts: 862; Member since: 23 Feb 2014)

Would you get this over the Oneplus 6 excluding the wireless charging?

41. Anshulonweb (Posts: 468; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)

you are right but i would like to point out the update record of miui... i have been using mi3 and the device is 4 years old and i have recently received new update... and further more updates will also be given out... i haven't seen anyone update devices as much as Xiaomi in android world...

45. integrazimmy (Posts: 58; Member since: 30 May 2015)

Seriously??? The Galaxy S line is the MOST BALANCED but not for me because I'm not a fan of the infinity display. The OnePlus 6 is better than this monster with HUUUUGE FOREHEAD AND CHIN!!! The G7 has better cameras than don't need a second camera to do Bokeh effect, plus a dedicated Google Assistant button instead of squeezing which has proven to make the phone more flimsy. This HTC U12 Will NOT SELL because it has neither Brains nor Brawns. Where do people come up with these crazy conclusions from is beyond me!!!

51. ramdroid (Posts: 108; Member since: 21 May 2016)

I can give u one.SOFTWARE UPDATE.
U11 plus was released with a promise of an update to include HDR10. And till date it's still on December security update since last year. I don't think even Samsung has this bad record of software updates
HTC is a joke.

52. Sale247 (Posts: 71; Member since: 08 May 2014)

Exactly

4. sissy246 (Posts: 6460; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)

The reason why anyone buys a phone, it's what they like.
This seams to be a pretty nice phone.
I would consider this phone depending how reviews are if I was not a note fan.

6. NateDiaz (Posts: 1055; Member since: 03 Mar 2018)

HTC 10.
Did not get any negative review, reviewers liked it more than S7 and G5, did not sell unfortunately.

7. Humanoid (Posts: 1226; Member since: 11 Dec 2017)

Htc does not work worldwide like Samsung or LG. Most of ppl dont read about tech. How can they know about the device?

17. AmashAziz (Posts: 2817; Member since: 30 Jun 2014)

HTC does work worldwide. It's just that they do not market it as well.

35. Humanoid (Posts: 1226; Member since: 11 Dec 2017)

Here we local 3 local brands.
Also Samsung, LG, Sony, Motorola, Apple, Asus.

None of chineses here, nor htc

31. maherk (Posts: 6337; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)

1- different design than the majority of notched phones.
2- Sense UI while is kinda outdated now is still one of the smoothest skins out there.
3- Camera on the U11+ was second best behind the Pixel, too bad the press didn't give them any credit for that. For that, I'm sure the camera on the 12 will be as good if not better.
4- Battery life on HTC phones is pretty good.
5- Software updates.

That's the beauty of Android, those who prefer these points over other features that other flagships might offer, have the option to buy the U12. HTC just needs better marketing, they build excellent phones, their marketing is what is killing them.

18. AmashAziz (Posts: 2817; Member since: 30 Jun 2014)

How do you know??

23. joshuaswingle (Posts: 258; Member since: 03 Apr 2018)

Thanks for letting me know